What new big power cars will we see this year then?
06-04-2005, 09:38 PM
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06-04-2005, 09:48 PM
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Picked up one of the last critial parts of the engine last week. Nearly everything is here apart from a few bits and bobs. Car is at the fabricators and being worked on as we speak. Not long to go now. 
Billet steel crank, I would hate to think of the amount of hours to make one of these
Mark
06-04-2005, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by glenis
you cant be serious, cant be four figures worth !?
As the saying goes "How fast can you afford to go"
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06-04-2005, 10:56 PM
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I FOOKIN LOVE ALL THIS SPECULATION ABOUT PAULS CAR
Mike your WRONG .............. Well about Pauls car anyway
Ryan your DEFO wrong
And Steve what say we have a little wager my good man
Mike your WRONG .............. Well about Pauls car anyway
Ryan your DEFO wrong
And Steve what say we have a little wager my good man
06-04-2005, 10:59 PM
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LOL, sorry mate, I didn't mean to sound arsey.
But just look at that crank and imagine the hours of design work and the amount of time and expertise and serious bits of machinery it would take to make something like that.
My one off crank took three weeks of machine time alone to produce. The design took over a month and the billet alone took two months and had to come from the US. The billett for a crank starts off the size of a tree trunk.
But just look at that crank and imagine the hours of design work and the amount of time and expertise and serious bits of machinery it would take to make something like that.
My one off crank took three weeks of machine time alone to produce. The design took over a month and the billet alone took two months and had to come from the US. The billett for a crank starts off the size of a tree trunk.
06-04-2005, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by glenis
yeah alright mate, no need to get hot under the collar about it...
not everyone is as old as you
not everyone is as old as you
Its easy for everyone with loads of experience of this kind of thing to assume others will know the cost of everything but of course it isn't so!
06-04-2005, 11:04 PM
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exactly
this forum is used by top experts and beginner novices...
i know naff all about engineering and costs for a custom crank, after all its hardly common knowledge. Its a specialist subject to say the least...
we all have to start somewhere...
this forum is used by top experts and beginner novices...
i know naff all about engineering and costs for a custom crank, after all its hardly common knowledge. Its a specialist subject to say the least...
we all have to start somewhere...
06-04-2005, 11:12 PM
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Deano- Hes honestly using the largest T51? The 1000bhp one? He's off his nut!
How the fuck hes gonna spool it up i dont know (well, nitrous maybe).
Ive seen vids of SX's etc in Japan with T51s, but not the 1000bhp one, running 9sec 1/4s...
How the fuck hes gonna spool it up i dont know (well, nitrous maybe).
Ive seen vids of SX's etc in Japan with T51s, but not the 1000bhp one, running 9sec 1/4s...
06-04-2005, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Itsmeagain
Deano- Hes honestly using the largest T51? The 1000bhp one? He's off his nut!
How the fuck hes gonna spool it up i dont know (well, nitrous maybe).
Ive seen vids of SX's etc in Japan with T51s, but not the 1000bhp one, running 9sec 1/4s...
How the fuck hes gonna spool it up i dont know (well, nitrous maybe).
Ive seen vids of SX's etc in Japan with T51s, but not the 1000bhp one, running 9sec 1/4s...
He can spend an awful lot of time mapping , changing components etc etc to see what works and what doesnt he showed me the spec of his cams and couldnt quite believe what he was saying LOL
And if it dont work out he can always sling it on my old LM
07-04-2005, 01:09 AM
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Easy lads......everyone chill.
glenis - To do things properly first time round things are very often extremely expensive mate. This is where winning the lotto would come in handy. Saying that...if your not going to do it properly I say don't do it at all. Besides with something as important as a crankshaft being a possible weakness when taking things to another level it's just too much of a risk not to do properly.
Regards to time and cost....finally after a 7 month wait it turned up so to be honest I was happy to see the damn thing instead of cry over how much more money I'd lost. Cost-wise, well lets just say Sean is the closest as it was made to spec and indeed a one-off.
Deano - I guessed Paul was using the T51 from your other post.
Thanks - Sunny.
glenis - To do things properly first time round things are very often extremely expensive mate. This is where winning the lotto would come in handy. Saying that...if your not going to do it properly I say don't do it at all. Besides with something as important as a crankshaft being a possible weakness when taking things to another level it's just too much of a risk not to do properly.
Regards to time and cost....finally after a 7 month wait it turned up so to be honest I was happy to see the damn thing instead of cry over how much more money I'd lost.
Cost-wise, well lets just say Sean is the closest as it was made to spec and indeed a one-off. Deano - I guessed Paul was using the T51 from your other post.
Thanks - Sunny.
07-04-2005, 01:45 AM
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I remember hearing about Paul making 600+bhp on the dyno last year, and make saw the car at National Day (?) But that was the last I heard of it really??
Sunny, crank looks awesome (nice photos too)
Rmember you said you were going to pick me up next time you went down to check up on the car
Sunny, crank looks awesome (nice photos too
)Rmember you said you were going to pick me up next time you went down to check up on the car
07-04-2005, 06:40 AM
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Sunny, I hope you've got loads of progress piccies which will be posted once it's all unveiled. 
I don't care what they all finally make, I'm just interested in all the engineering that has gone into them
I don't care what they all finally make, I'm just interested in all the engineering that has gone into them
07-04-2005, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by NIL 7090
The three cars that secs (simon) mentioned, one of them is mine! Simon Norris of Norris Designs built the engine and achieved 632 bhp on race fuel 475lb torque and 584 bhp on super 450lb torque. Martin Hadland fitted a twin plate hydraulic clutch, Pete Doughty Engineering built the gear box (all straight cut gears). Thick wall front diff case etc, etc, etc. i was planning on entering the qualifying for totb, but as i was ill advised on the rear diff, have now been told i need a plated rear diff! As i have spent around Ł12,000, i just cannot afford to spend another grand on a new rear diff. The one i have will last me a short while, if i dont launch the car. I might have a big horsepower car, but i havent got a money tree at the end of the garden!!!! I will get the car right, but it will be in my own time as and when i can afford it. I also run a big turbo escort cosworth, so i am running two money pits! 
Sound like a weapon mate
well done.
07-04-2005, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by NIL 7090
The three cars that secs (simon) mentioned, one of them is mine! Simon Norris of Norris Designs built the engine and achieved 632 bhp on race fuel 475lb torque and 584 bhp on super 450lb torque. Martin Hadland fitted a twin plate hydraulic clutch, Pete Doughty Engineering built the gear box (all straight cut gears). Thick wall front diff case etc, etc, etc. i was planning on entering the qualifying for totb, but as i was ill advised on the rear diff, have now been told i need a plated rear diff! As i have spent around Ł12,000, i just cannot afford to spend another grand on a new rear diff. The one i have will last me a short while, if i dont launch the car. I might have a big horsepower car, but i havent got a money tree at the end of the garden!!!! I will get the car right, but it will be in my own time as and when i can afford it. I also run a big turbo escort cosworth, so i am running two money pits!
07-04-2005, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by NIL 7090
The three cars that secs (simon) mentioned, one of them is mine! Simon Norris of Norris Designs built the engine and achieved 632 bhp on race fuel 475lb torque and 584 bhp on super 450lb torque. Martin Hadland fitted a twin plate hydraulic clutch, Pete Doughty Engineering built the gear box (all straight cut gears). Thick wall front diff case etc, etc, etc. i was planning on entering the qualifying for totb, but as i was ill advised on the rear diff, have now been told i need a plated rear diff! As i have spent around Ł12,000, i just cannot afford to spend another grand on a new rear diff. The one i have will last me a short while, if i dont launch the car. I might have a big horsepower car, but i havent got a money tree at the end of the garden!!!! I will get the car right, but it will be in my own time as and when i can afford it. I also run a big turbo escort cosworth, so i am running two money pits!
Is this my car???
At brunters did 178.5mph with only 430bhp
Will be knocking on the door of 500bhp and 490lb/ft and hopefully over 183mph with my new turbo...
07-04-2005, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by cossierich330
Originally Posted by NIL 7090
The three cars that secs (simon) mentioned, one of them is mine! Simon Norris of Norris Designs built the engine and achieved 632 bhp on race fuel 475lb torque and 584 bhp on super 450lb torque. Martin Hadland fitted a twin plate hydraulic clutch, Pete Doughty Engineering built the gear box (all straight cut gears). Thick wall front diff case etc, etc, etc. i was planning on entering the qualifying for totb, but as i was ill advised on the rear diff, have now been told i need a plated rear diff! As i have spent around Ł12,000, i just cannot afford to spend another grand on a new rear diff. The one i have will last me a short while, if i dont launch the car. I might have a big horsepower car, but i havent got a money tree at the end of the garden!!!! I will get the car right, but it will be in my own time as and when i can afford it. I also run a big turbo escort cosworth, so i am running two money pits!
07-04-2005, 11:40 AM
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only runing 28LB of boost i dont like runing big boys boost,i was shiting me pants at this.I do think these figures are blood good for the amount of boost,im not a big fan of 35-40LB of boost all though i know you get more tourque
Runs 2.5bar in the car so circa 530+ft-lb. Its MAD engine spec thats making the Torque not boost alone.
Rod
07-04-2005, 11:46 AM
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Will be knocking on the door of 500bhp and 490lb/ft and hopefully over 183mph with my new turbo...
.First Ade & now you breaking my old cars times aint fair.
.Rod
07-04-2005, 11:55 AM
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Phil - I aint seen the car for almost a year myself. Got a letter from Greenlight saying that the insurance had expired and I thought shit another year without driving the thing. As soon as she's on the road I'll be passing by to pick up the 2nd best photographer who lives in my area to take some pics.
Paul - I thought I was one of very few geeks that appreciated looking at well engineered components. I am taking pictures of everything however without sounding off-key not prepared to post or talk about certain things as idea's / specs get copied and others take the credit for all of the r&d and cost that was put into it in the first place....I learnt this from my previous engine.....not doing that again.
Thanks - Sunny.
Paul - I thought I was one of very few geeks that appreciated looking at well engineered components.
I am taking pictures of everything however without sounding off-key not prepared to post or talk about certain things as idea's / specs get copied and others take the credit for all of the r&d and cost that was put into it in the first place....I learnt this from my previous engine.....not doing that again.Thanks - Sunny.
07-04-2005, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MADRod
Originally Posted by NIL 7090
only runing 28LB of boost i dont like runing big boys boost,i was shiting me pants at this.I do think these figures are blood good for the amount of boost,im not a big fan of 35-40LB of boost all though i know you get more tourque
Runs 2.5bar in the car so circa 530+ft-lb. Its MAD engine spec thats making the Torque not boost alone.
Rod
I am only runing a gt 30-40, turn your boost down put my turbo on loose some cc
dont you ever do any work rod