Actuator dubts - round two...
05-04-2005, 09:52 PM
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Actuator dubts - round two...
I bought new -31 actuator form Stu for MSD reflashed ECU. It is pretty much identical from outside to the old one but there is one huge difference. On the old one on the car the actuator rod just goes out of the actuator and is not screw on anything. (maybe it's screwed in - didn't try to turn it hard). On the new one there is something like 4cm of threaded part going oit of the rear. Do I need special actuator rod or what? It's T-25 Escos actuator. I post pics when I got them soon.
05-04-2005, 10:23 PM
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i got a new -31 for mine only problem is
the rod for the standard actuator is too long you need the rod from a big turbo car i dont know whether its the one from a 2wd or 4wd as there different.
the rod for the standard actuator is too long you need the rod from a big turbo car i dont know whether its the one from a 2wd or 4wd as there different.
06-04-2005, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by july1
You can get the rod itself from lots of companies (about Ł20 if my memory is fine)
Does anobody who can get me rod quickly read this?
06-04-2005, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by B19-TRB
I have a rod here m8! that will screw onto your -31!
its off my t34 so not sure if it will be to long or short if yours is a small turbo model!
its off my t34 so not sure if it will be to long or short if yours is a small turbo model!
Damn it.. anybody knows ??? A shame I haven't got the right rod from Stu at the begining.
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06-04-2005, 10:58 AM
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actuators dont get supplied with rods! they r part of the car/turbo!
am suprised your 1 didnt fit to be hoest!
every actuator i have seen has had a threaded section comin out of it!
am suprised your 1 didnt fit to be hoest!
every actuator i have seen has had a threaded section comin out of it!
06-04-2005, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by B19-TRB
actuators dont get supplied with rods! they r part of the car/turbo!
am suprised your 1 didnt fit to be hoest! every actuator i have seen has had a threaded section comin out of it!
every actuator i have seen has had a threaded section comin out of it!
06-04-2005, 11:50 AM
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I "think" I know what you mean (but would need pics to be sure). I believe the one with the same spring tension as a -31, but with the different rod length is called a -51 (or something similar). This may have been discontinued, as most people just got the different length female part to suit a normal -31...
If you put pictures up, I can then see if I have the right end of the stick
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If you put pictures up, I can then see if I have the right end of the stick
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06-04-2005, 12:07 PM
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Right. I will post pics as soon as possible. Stu says I need standard small/big turbo actuator rod. If you got one would be great because I need it here in 2 weeks at MOST. Preferebly much quicker.
06-04-2005, 12:16 PM
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One more thing - what is the length o standard rod? I found a rally service over here that has whole box of those things from various Fords, but they don't know which length is needed.
06-04-2005, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Can you give me the numbers on the front of your existing actuator?
There are none. I don't have the car here as it's in the workshop but I think there is only some number on the back - very long one. If you are interested I take it out and give you the numbers on nearest opportunity.
06-04-2005, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Henshall
that looks like a non std small turbo ...?
What wrong with it? More pics here: http://foto.luftbrandzlung.org/album03?page=2
06-04-2005, 04:27 PM
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Just so you can be making further progress, that "looks" like a standard 4x4 actuator that you have on the car at the moment, but they are available in two types. If the number ends in 54, then that is a standard non-cat item and with your bleed valve you can easily achieve 20psi with it (so the -31 is a waste of money
). If it ends in a 55, then that is even better, as it is off a CAT equipped car and has an even stronger spring (so you can achieve even more than 20psi). What you need if you want to fit the actuator Stu has supplied is the original EEC IV female part of the arm (hence why Stu has machined it down and threaded it for you, as he obviously thought this is what you originally had on it). I have a second hand one you can have for Ł20 inc postage (providing this doesn't come to more than the Ł8 I have allowed ).
Hope this helps.
Just so you can be making further progress, that "looks" like a standard 4x4 actuator that you have on the car at the moment, but they are available in two types. If the number ends in 54, then that is a standard non-cat item and with your bleed valve you can easily achieve 20psi with it (so the -31 is a waste of money
). If it ends in a 55, then that is even better, as it is off a CAT equipped car and has an even stronger spring (so you can achieve even more than 20psi). What you need if you want to fit the actuator Stu has supplied is the original EEC IV female part of the arm (hence why Stu has machined it down and threaded it for you, as he obviously thought this is what you originally had on it). I have a second hand one you can have for Ł20 inc postage (providing this doesn't come to more than the Ł8 I have allowed ).Hope this helps.
06-04-2005, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Azrael,
Just so you can be making further progress, that "looks" like a standard 4x4 actuator that you have on the car at the moment, but they are available in two types. If the number ends in 54, then that is a standard non-cat item and with your bleed valve you can easily achieve 20psi with it (so the -31 is a waste of money ). If it ends in a 55, then that is even better, as it is off a CAT equipped car and has an even stronger spring (so you can achieve even more than 20psi).
Just so you can be making further progress, that "looks" like a standard 4x4 actuator that you have on the car at the moment, but they are available in two types. If the number ends in 54, then that is a standard non-cat item and with your bleed valve you can easily achieve 20psi with it (so the -31 is a waste of money
). If it ends in a 55, then that is even better, as it is off a CAT equipped car and has an even stronger spring (so you can achieve even more than 20psi). It will go up as high as 1.8 bar if I let it. That's why I'm changing it. 1. I want proper boost control with my boost solenoid not bleed valve that makes 1.8 from 1.3 with mere whether change 2. my actuator seams to be failing
What you need if you want to fit the actuator Stu has supplied is the original EEC IV female part of the arm (hence why Stu has machined it down and threaded it for you, as he obviously thought this is what you originally had on it). I have a second hand one you can have for Ł20 inc postage (providing this doesn't come to more than the Ł8 I have allowed ).
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Great if I can't sourceit locally I take this one. (although we'll something more sensible then parcelforce which is 7 pounds and always gets lost) But if you could tell me what lenght is it I would deeply apreciate as I wouldn't be waiting for it as I can get it locally if I know the length.
08-04-2005, 09:37 PM
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Azrael,
A shame I haven't got the right rod from Stu at the begining.
A shame I haven't got the right rod from Stu at the begining.
The actuator supplied is 100% correct for the T34 and T28 models as supplied by Ford. Its your car thats wrong.
Mike,
I have these made specifically.. no shonky cutting and threading going on with mine, they arrive ready to fit
08-04-2005, 10:29 PM
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Stu
I e-mailed over 2 weeks ago and you never replied
Can you PM what you can do for the Sml T escy? Thinking of going Big T but would appreciate all options??
Regards
I e-mailed over 2 weeks ago and you never replied
Can you PM what you can do for the Sml T escy? Thinking of going Big T but would appreciate all options??
Regards
09-04-2005, 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Azrael,
A shame I haven't got the right rod from Stu at the begining.
A shame I haven't got the right rod from Stu at the begining.
The actuator supplied is 100% correct for the T34 and T28 models as supplied by Ford. Its your car thats wrong.
I know I know. I ment that if I knew I would get the rod to in the first place. My car is often wrong :-/
06-05-2005, 09:57 PM
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Back to the original topic.
I got the rod from cossymad. It's the longest 130mm one. I got the actuator and when I unscrew it to the maximum it is still about 10mm to short. I am afraid to pull it out that much and I don't think it would work fine... Something is clearly wrong :-/ What else can be non original? Actuator bracket? Exhaust housing?
Will it be right if I just cut the rod and weld in a piece into it to make it longer?
I got the rod from cossymad. It's the longest 130mm one. I got the actuator and when I unscrew it to the maximum it is still about 10mm to short. I am afraid to pull it out that much and I don't think it would work fine... Something is clearly wrong :-/ What else can be non original? Actuator bracket? Exhaust housing?
Will it be right if I just cut the rod and weld in a piece into it to make it longer?
08-05-2005, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Henshall
tbh, that actuatot looks like the one as std on a 4x4 saph...
This the old one. I got new one -31 from Stu. I got actuator rod 130mm long which was supposed to be of Escort Cossie and it's too short.. And I'm trying to find out what is wrong.
08-05-2005, 06:46 PM
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Can anyone help me? I've got the same problem, its a 4x4 T3 and new -31 actuator. Don't know where it came from but its new - came in a box with a job lot of engine bits I bought ages ago. The actuators got 430099-0031, x31 and 02-150 on it. Any ideas?
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Old one compared to new one...
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New Actuator
Old one compared to new one...
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