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Old 01-08-2014, 07:20 PM
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Default Who`s is this 11sec saff, and spec?

whos is it and what is the spec?



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Old 01-08-2014, 07:29 PM
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Don't know whos it is but it is nice, and very quick.

Wouldn't mind knowing the spec myself.
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Can hear the guy on the tannoy say 120 mph terminal so I'm guessing defo 400-430 bhp?
Old 01-08-2014, 07:37 PM
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Its one of my cars, Best time at pod is I think 11.08@124mph, It has a EFR on it and runs 521hp and 535ftlb.

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Old 01-08-2014, 07:40 PM
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Its also on the same engine I built for it about 12years ago.

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Old 01-08-2014, 07:41 PM
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Quite a fast machine that!

Edit- Mark put a reply in as I was typing

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Old 01-08-2014, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by gjh
Quite a fast machine that! Wonder what sort of power that would be?


531 bhp 535 ft/lb
Old 01-08-2014, 07:47 PM
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Would have thought it would have been quicker with that power. I guess the 4x4 system zapps a load of bhp
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Me too Paul, hence why i Said defo over 400-430, maybe running low boost ?
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Its only about 2mph away from the max term I would have expected from 521hp and I think 11.08 is faster than I would expect.

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Originally Posted by Staffi
Me too Paul, hence why i Said defo over 400-430, maybe running low boost ?
Gay wheel drive prob lost him 100bhp
Old 01-08-2014, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
Its only about 2mph away from the max term I would have expected from 521hp and I think 11.08 is faster than I would expect.

Mark

Mark,

Isn't terminal speed that states the power rather than the time?? Or both??
Old 01-08-2014, 07:58 PM
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sounds like non standard drivetrain, maby on 3.9:1 diffs?

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Originally Posted by Cossie Sean
sounds like non standard drivetrain, maby on 3.9:1 diffs?

Cheers Mark
Yes and it has the Oppliner Long box.

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Originally Posted by Staffi
Mark,

Isn't terminal speed that states the power rather than the time?? Or both??
Once you know the weight the term speed gives a very good idea of the power.

Mark
Old 01-08-2014, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by costina
Gay wheel drive prob lost him 100bhp
Wise man, may aswell have a freelander
Old 01-08-2014, 08:26 PM
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I want anti lag now. That saff looks mint.
Old 01-08-2014, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
I want anti lag now. That saff looks mint.
That will go down well with them neighbours of yours Glenn
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The Lesos would love it. They must love the cossie burbling away at 5.40am most weeks lol.
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hahahaha i bet they would love that.
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Sometimes I rev fook out of my car too lol.
Old 01-08-2014, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
Once you know the weight the term speed gives a very good idea of the power.

Mark
Not as quick Terminal as my old 500bhp engine back in 2002 that ran a 127mph. That was a full weight car so doubting it had anywhere near 500bhp on that run.
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Originally Posted by Rod-Tarry
Not as quick Terminal as my old 500bhp engine back in 2002 that ran a 127mph. That was a full weight car so doubting it had anywhere near 500bhp on that run.
For me 127mph in yours was right on the money.

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Old 01-08-2014, 09:53 PM
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That's Jon Gambles car, saw it running at classic ford show, awesome car and devastatingly quick

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Old 01-08-2014, 10:04 PM
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Very nice lovely launches there!
Old 01-08-2014, 11:27 PM
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I wonder if the guy in the golf thought he would stand a chance lol

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Originally Posted by Rod-Tarry
doubting it had anywhere near 500bhp on that run.
Agree Rodders ^^^^^ hence my previous posts above

My old Sapph G88 had 440 and did a 118 terminal,
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But that was a crap launch too because it should have been a bit more than that.
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Originally Posted by Staffi
But that was a crap launch too because it should have been a bit more than that.
A good or bad launch has very little diff on term speed. I would put 440hp at 117mph so yours was right on the money.

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Old 02-08-2014, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Rod-Tarry
Not as quick Terminal as my old 500bhp engine back in 2002 that ran a 127mph. That was a full weight car so doubting it had anywhere near 500bhp on that run.
your rwd will be giving you that 3-4 mph advantage rod, 4wd must be heavier and have more driveline loss
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Originally Posted by Staffi
Mark,

Isn't terminal speed that states the power rather than the time?? Or both??

heres a good guide, use terminal mph and weight to determine approximate wheel power, forget the time

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Originally Posted by Cos500
Wise man, may aswell have a freelander

LOL

Just out of interest has anyone got any transmission loss figures for a cossie 2wd and 4wd?
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
A good or bad launch has very little diff on term speed. I would put 440hp at 117mph so yours was right on the money.

Mark
That's good to know then Mark
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
heres a good guide, use terminal mph and weight to determine approximate wheel power, forget the time


Interesting that , thanks for posting it

So a 2WD Sapph with 300atws is around 360-370 ATF yes?? Or not so much? I guess you don't lose 60-70 bhp through 2WD transmission?.
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Just looking again, so let's use the 400ATWs and the 1300 Kg car which is a bit heavier than a 2WD Sapph, is 400 ATWs about 450-460 ATF and that's showing a 122 terminal on the graph
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Is there a graph showing lighter than 1100kg ?

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When I was running 550bhp I did a 11.9 @ 128mph my 60ft was 2.6 thou
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460 flywheel power std box and diff gave me 11.3 and a 1.6 60ft 2wd
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He runs in the osf drag spoke to him sound guy
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Originally Posted by Staffi
531 bhp 535 ft/lb
You didn't see me edit then?


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