Dave-Rs

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hi all i have an 89 sierra sapphire cosworth with rusty chassis legs and have found an 84 3dr sierra cosworth rep for sale that is suppost to have a solid chassis and no rust, i am wondering if my engine, gearbox and ancellieries will just bolt in and be an easy conversion or will there be any problems? thanks all!!

Glenn_

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I take it ur saff is 2wd. If so it should all just bolt in. I would make sure that 3dr you have seen is solid and not rusty.

Dave-Rs

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yep 2wd sapph, thanks glenn thats what i wanted to hear if its rusty il be walking away and il just fix the sapph

Glenn_

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The rear anti roll bars are different on saffs compared to 3dr cossies.

Paul_RS

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Would it not be easier to just fix the Sapphire?

DixieTheKid

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Gearbox cradle: 3dr is steel and 2wd saph is alloy
As Glenn says Rear ARB: 3dr is 14mm and 2wd saph is 16mm

Dave-Rs

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yep it prob would be but iv always wanted a 3dr cosworth and with the way the prices of them are going i will never be able to afford one this would be the closest i can get

Dave-Rs

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thanks dixie will the gearbox cradle still fit? and do the brakes and suspension fit?

DixieTheKid

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Yep all the brakes and suspension will all fit proving you have a 2wd saph. Im not sure on the gearbox cradle, i believe they do but someone will confirm.

Dave-Rs

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ye its a 2wd sapph thats perfect thanks dixie!

costina

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could you not buy the rep and then get a genuine shell (bare from a breaker then build that up and sell the rep 3dr shell and unwanted saff parts.

Just an idea to get a real one but it will take time to do. cheaper too

Dave-Rs

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that could be an option, i didnt think of that would make it worth a bit more too

3drRich

I have a gen 3dr cossie shell I would sell

DixieTheKid

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I thought i had 1st refusal on that Richie boy?

Iain Mac

Fuse box and that area of the bulhead is differnt on 3dr/Sapphire so not a straight swap.
Interior is all entirely different.
Chassis legs are different lengths.

DixieTheKid

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Its only the engine, box and running gear he is changing fella as per his initial post.

Iain Mac

Ancilliaries that plug into the wiring loom may not work on the old loom and the new one doesn't fit.

3drRich

Sorry mate I forgot about that. Im only gonna sell it if another cossie I might have bought turns up

You wanna buy it then??

Dave-Rs

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would i be best getting an engine and interior loom out of a 3dr cosworth then? i presume 3drs and sapphs hav the same engine sensors ect

costina

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Worth a look into Dave

Dave-Rs

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defo but i think il have to get a bigger garage lol

Dave-Rs

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let me know a price if dixie doesnt want it

boy-racer-1

Check the gearbox tunnel in the base model will accept a t5 box some of the very early models had a smaller gearbox tunnel but I think that was the 1.3 pinto versions as I've only heard of a very rare few that couldn't fit the t5 gearbox, you will also need to drill holes for the cosworth gearbox mount and add some strengthening plates as the gearbox tunnel/floor is very thin metal to hold the weight of the gearbox whereAs the cosworth she'll already has the mounting points and spacer skin on the underside where it bolts up

3drRich

Have a look,
https://passionford.com/forum/ford-r...rth-shell.html

Open to offers

Dave-Rs

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just read the add again and he says it has a t5 box fitted heres the add







1984 Ford sierra mk1 3dr 2.0
Make / Model Year
Ford Sierra 1984
Transmission Fuel Type Engine Size
Manual Petrol -
Body Mileage
3 Door Hatchback -
Road Tax NCT Due
- -
1984 ford sierra mark 1 3 door 2.0 8v dohc efi

Type 5 cosworth gearbox

Power steering

Poly bushed

Cosworth recaro cloth interior

Full cosworth replica body kit, bonnet spoiler, arches ect.

Sierra sapphire cosworth wheels

Gmax suspension with pi springs

XR4i front brakes

4-2-1 manifold 2' to 4' mongoose stainless back box

New Oldham battery

Diamond White shell in excellent condition, body work is very good. Rare car to find in 3dr. Very strong engine running really well. Car is in dry storage however the space is needed now. It is eligible for vintage tax €56 per year in June

what do you think?

james kiely

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dave i would run a country mile from it lol

Dave-Rs

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lol do you know the car? is it even worth the trip to look at it?

caprizetec170

Was thinking of looking at that meself but looks rotten as fook look around inner wing to bulkhead

james kiely

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dave i seen it for sale before ,its a rep and will always be a rep lol

it wont be worth half of what you put into it to make it look anyway decent .

you would be 100 times better off doing up the saff an if the shell is to bad just reshell into a better one

Dave-Rs

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its the cheap tax i like lol being a rep wouldnt bother me but rust would the sapph can defo be saved just needs some time and money thrown at it

james kiely

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even the good ones need time and money thrown at them lol.

caprizetec170

DEpends on first date of reg for cheap tax and you'll have to NCT it for ever

james kiely

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dave you would be better off with either xr4i thats advertised on done deal and convert into one of them.just get the c pillar cut out and stick a 3dr rear side window in .both have cheap tax

Dave-Rs

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that would end up very pricy in the end because id need to get a full cosworth kit and then prob a full respray think i might just keep the sapph as i do realy like the car heres a pic of my baby

james kiely

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the saff lookls great ,stick with that is say.you can get new rear chassis legs so anything is fixable

you would need to spray that 3dr too and the kit is fbreglass so you would probably replace at some stage

Dave-Rs

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i think you have me convinced lol il save my 3dr dream for when i win the lotto lol

james kiely

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good man, saffs a better car anyway dave

Dave-Rs

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true 3drs are lookers sapphs are drivers now i just have to get it on the road so i can drive it haha

Rob Virgo

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Just built up a std 3dr into Cossie running gear, no problems , 90% saff stuff

James , I think the pass rear leg is the one that rots and if n/a afaik

james kiely

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their are some spurious[sp]ones available now rob ,through carparts express afaik about 80 quid a side