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Old Aug 22, 2013 | 03:17 PM
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What a cracking car took one in px on a 06 never drove one before I really love the way they go and feel, quality cars!

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Old Aug 22, 2013 | 05:31 PM
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A lot of people slate them, but for bang per buck I think they are great and have been chuffed with mine for the last 3 years I've had it!
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Old Aug 22, 2013 | 05:33 PM
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I thought it was the older shape ones everyone slags off
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The ST170? Yes people slate those too, including me because they are shit
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Old Aug 22, 2013 | 05:34 PM
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I've got an st3 mapped a and decated, its awesome the noise on boost!

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Old Aug 22, 2013 | 05:35 PM
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The ST170? Yes people slate those too, including me because they are shit
lol, they are poo
drink fuel and dont go fast basically
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Old Aug 22, 2013 | 05:36 PM
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Only just noticed all the grills on the one I have are colour coded lol
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Old Aug 22, 2013 | 05:40 PM
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Yep..... love mine !
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I bought an ST2 yesterday and it's f*cking awesome
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Old Aug 22, 2013 | 06:23 PM
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Exhaust just needs to be a tad louder lol
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Old Aug 22, 2013 | 06:27 PM
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Decat and remap it will be loud then lol
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Na I'm only selling it on lol
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Really! There a different animal once mapped mate. Don't know what your missing lol
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Old Aug 22, 2013 | 07:13 PM
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just this moment come in from mapping mine with bluefin and can honestly say-Different car altogether!

Just waiting for confirmation from Superchips that i can go straight to stage 2
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Steve i wouldn't be using plug in maps doing a few on others .Mine was on a proper map if your going any further speak to Rob @ scc or stu
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I really like mine (apart from it's appetite for driveshafts!! ), really comfortable, reasonably nippy and IMO looks quite smart!

Handling is shit though!!

I was going to have a play with it for a bit more power but I need to get my Cossie finished first.
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Originally Posted by Kitchen Devil
I really like mine (apart from it's appetite for driveshafts!! ), really comfortable, reasonably nippy and IMO looks quite smart!

Handling is shit though!!

I was going to have a play with it for a bit more power but I need to get my Cossie finished first.
What was the symptoms on the driveshafts?
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Clonking and knocking, clicking and vibrations through the car under acceleration.

They were on mine anyway!
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Originally Posted by Kitchen Devil
Clonking and knocking, clicking and vibrations through the car under acceleration.

They were on mine anyway!
Sound, I've developed a wobble on acceleration more than likely geometry lol need to get it checked out was hoping its not drives shafts asnive heard there like Ł240-1000 lol
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I'm thinking of buying a st on a 56reg,
I'm not really sure what to look out for on them to be honest,
Also I here the liners go easily is this true
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Liners don't go easy at all, only from crap maps or cars over 300bhp. And unwell maintained cars. Look for the same as what you do for any car your buying!
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Originally Posted by scoobykilla123
Sound, I've developed a wobble on acceleration more than likely geometry lol need to get it checked out was hoping its not drives shafts asnive heard there like Ł240-1000 lol
I'd bet on a driveshaft tbh mate

Mine only wobbled on acceleration.

Try Graham at Car Parts Express if you need one, really nice guy and very helpful.

http://www.carpartsexpress.co.uk/
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Ill bare him in mind mate cheers. Just flew through a mot. She's gunna stick it on here works alignment thingy then see what's what after that. Had new balljoint and lower arm on one side and doesn't seem as bad so maybe the other one needs doing also. But cheers for the link
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Originally Posted by scoobykilla123
Liners don't go easy at all, only from crap maps or cars over 300bhp. And unwell maintained cars. Look for the same as what you do for any car your buying!
Thats correct if you datalog the me9 ecu with the crappy plug in upgrade maps there very aggressive in the fact there to lean and to much ignition where the torque limiters lifted ect to much then the knock sensors are constantly trying to cope with det and then the high cylinder pressures So this why i say get either scc or msd to map the car properly rather than a poor generic map
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Originally Posted by RSBryden
I'm thinking of buying a st on a 56reg,
I'm not really sure what to look out for on them to be honest,
Also I here the liners go easily is this true
From what I've heard regarding liners, there's no rule as such, you're either lucky or you aren't.

Things to look out for are misfire on startup, White smoke from the tailpipes, pressurising of the cooling system etc. Pretty much the same symptoms as head gasket failure.

Other things that can go wrong is alternator failure, ABS/ESP module failure, cracked seat bases, boost control solenoids, MAP sensors, MAF sensors, some had issues with power steering pipes leaking (Ford recall), oil filter housing diaphragms and probably a couple of other things I can't think of!!

Just do all the checks as you would normally and keep your fingers and toes crossed!
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These sts are a good car for the money. I like my work mates ST170.i dont think his is slow tbh or less he has a good one.
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I actually find my ST170 more fun to drive than my ST3!! Lol!

Certainly handles a lot better!
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My st170 was good fun to drive too just lacked a bit of grunt. Coupled with the high running costs for what it was I got fed up with it rather quickly!
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The liners can go even on a well maintained standard car. The problem is down to the size of the gap between the cylinders. Cars before mid 09 had a very narrow gap and the later blocks this was made wider to aid water flow. But I can't say I've heard of any later cars suffering from broken liners. Apparently some people are fitting shims between the cylinders as a block mod along with a deck plate to try and eliminate the liners from cracking.
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Originally Posted by RichieST
My st170 was good fun to drive too just lacked a bit of grunt. Coupled with the high running costs for what it was I got fed up with it rather quickly!
Yeah it definitely isn't what you'd call quick!!

I'd say it's probably just as bad on fuel as my ST3 is! Lol!
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Originally Posted by chris cdti
The liners can go even on a well maintained standard car. The problem is down to the size of the gap between the cylinders. Cars before mid 09 had a very narrow gap and the later blocks this was made wider to aid water flow. But I can't say I've heard of any later cars suffering from broken liners. Apparently some people are fitting shims between the cylinders as a block mod along with a deck plate to try and eliminate the liners from cracking.

I thought it was the other way round, the earlier cars had a larger water channel?
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Originally Posted by Kitchen Devil
Yeah it definitely isn't what you'd call quick!!

I'd say it's probably just as bad on fuel as my ST3 is! Lol!
Yes I get exactly the same mpg on my quite well tuned ST than I used to get on my standard st170. To be fair I did ruin it by fitting big wheels and rock hard suspension, drove quite nicely before that
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Take it to stage 3. Love mine! ARB and stiffener going on soon to improve handling in the harsh bends.
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Old Aug 23, 2013 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RichieST
I thought it was the other way round, the earlier cars had a larger water channel?
They did matey,you are correct.
Liners can go on ANY car maintained or not,mapped or standard.
There are a number of tuners offering "block mods" Dream science.Puma Build,Jamsport and one or two others aswell.

Your looking at Ł750+ depending on what you have done as most of the companies i mentioned only to do the block mod with shims or dowels, but Dream science do different stages of modification reaching upwards of Ł1500

My car will be going to someone realatively local who works on these engines day in day out and has been doing block mod on volvo engines for years.
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They did matey,you are correct.
Liners can go on ANY car maintained or not,mapped or standard.
There are a number of tuners offering "block mods" Dream science.Puma Build,Jamsport and one or two others aswell.

Your looking at Ł750+ depending on what you have done as most of the companies i mentioned only to do the block mod with shims or dowels, but Dream science do different stages of modification reaching upwards of Ł1500

My car will be going to someone realatively local who works on these engines day in day out and has been doing block mod on volvo engines for years.

Is that Tim ?
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Originally Posted by scoobykilla123
I've got an st3 mapped a and decated, its awesome the noise on boost!


Ain't this an ST-2?
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Steve i wouldn't be using plug in maps doing a few on others .Mine was on a proper map if your going any further speak to Rob @ scc or stu
Never heard of much bother using plug and play maps mate ??

Got a Dreamscience handset I done mine with & been fine...., leaving it on DSCi for the moment , hopefully get it doon to Jamsport next year for a block mod & get them to map it
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I have back to back live read 2 different generic maps against my live mapped one and if i was to buy another st i know what i would do

Oh id go to Tim Williams for the block mods to

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I have back to back live read 2 different generic maps against my live mapped one and if i was to buy another st i know what i would do
Fingers crossed I get some pennies together next year then

its all money money fookin money
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Originally Posted by RoscoST
Fingers crossed I get some pennies together next year then

its all money money fookin money
Well Rob @ scc or Stu msd are very well priced for mapping and pm me ur number and ill forward Tims number on for the block mods
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