Gotech mfi pro?
17-08-2013, 08:53 AM
#1
Gotech mfi pro?
Has anyone got a mapp to get my car running to give it a once over before taking it for mapping
Me and dubs44 are wiring up and doing the finishing touches today
Quick spec, 2.1 with vxr injectors, cos 4x4 t3, gotech mfi pro, grs cooler, dd valve springs, c20let pistons, stage2 rad, SO inlet
Any help would be great, and has anyone got a computer cable and software disc they want to sell? Or lend me
It's got a 1600cvh mapp on it but didn't want to take any chances?
Me and dubs44 are wiring up and doing the finishing touches today
Quick spec, 2.1 with vxr injectors, cos 4x4 t3, gotech mfi pro, grs cooler, dd valve springs, c20let pistons, stage2 rad, SO inlet
Any help would be great, and has anyone got a computer cable and software disc they want to sell? Or lend me
It's got a 1600cvh mapp on it but didn't want to take any chances?
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22-08-2013, 08:27 PM
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I've had live maps done for no more than £300.
Torque of the devil was £240
Power engineering £300
Boost monkeys who are doing it next have quoted £250
All of this was on megasquirt, which lets face it, trumps gotech in every respect.
Torque of the devil was £240
Power engineering £300
Boost monkeys who are doing it next have quoted £250
All of this was on megasquirt, which lets face it, trumps gotech in every respect.
23-08-2013, 09:59 AM
#12
I know Jamie and I know he will sort me out, he's a good lad, I was just hoping I could just having it running correctly before taking it as they are 100 miles each way for me, so just want to book in, get mapped and go with less chances of problems
Plus I know the gotech is differcult to mapp hence not a lot of people wanting to use it, so what Jamie quoted me sounds pretty good
Plus I know the gotech is differcult to mapp hence not a lot of people wanting to use it, so what Jamie quoted me sounds pretty good
23-08-2013, 10:07 AM
#13
So far mine is wired up with correct braided loom and mfi pro ecu with 3 bar mapp sensor and launch set up and owes me £275 so with mapping its still a cheap conversion
I looked into ofam as I was running ofab but my loom was shot so with the £389.99 + upgrades and loom repaired it would have cost me a lot more, which is a shame but I'm chuffed with my set up and can't wait to get it mapped
23-08-2013, 10:29 AM
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Ecu was £150 second hand. Soldered a plug onto my original first time round but have since replaced with a new loom for £70 I think. £60 for a bigger map sensor and boost control. Plus mapping as stated. All the original car relays and bits were used as they didn't need changing.
23-08-2013, 08:47 PM
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23-08-2013, 09:35 PM
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Surprises me! But then there was some dodgy work done on mine by james murray too but boost monkeys took care of fixing other peoples mistakes for free, and upgrading mine. Top bloke!
23-08-2013, 09:36 PM
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This was on my throttle bodied st170 engine first, and now my focus rs engine.
24-08-2013, 03:10 AM
#19
says it all about the megasquirt world really.......
thank god for Rob at boost monkeys then
did the ecu have full control over the vvt or just activate it at a set rpm? the gotech i have has the outputs for vvt but im guessing it just activates it ?
thank god for Rob at boost monkeys then
did the ecu have full control over the vvt or just activate it at a set rpm? the gotech i have has the outputs for vvt but im guessing it just activates it ?
24-08-2013, 04:53 PM
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Thought so
I got a problem anyway, it was off a dizzy powered 1600cvh and I've adapted the loom following the gotech user manual but I have no spark?
There's power at the coil pack and fuel pump is priming, but no fuel in cyclinders and no spark
I'm getting a power probe tonight to see if there is the pulse to it all
I got a problem anyway, it was off a dizzy powered 1600cvh and I've adapted the loom following the gotech user manual but I have no spark?
There's power at the coil pack and fuel pump is priming, but no fuel in cyclinders and no spark
I'm getting a power probe tonight to see if there is the pulse to it all
24-08-2013, 08:25 PM
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im pretty sure the software is wrong so cant pick up a signal
the previous owner just told me it have a external trigger running dizzy and now i have it wired upto run a wasted spark coil pack with a zetec crank sensor and flywheel, and semi sequential fueling so i need to get the ecu set up for what i have now i guess
the previous owner just told me it have a external trigger running dizzy and now i have it wired upto run a wasted spark coil pack with a zetec crank sensor and flywheel, and semi sequential fueling so i need to get the ecu set up for what i have now i guess
25-08-2013, 08:18 AM
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Look on the sticker on top of the Ecu. It will say 60-2, 32-1, MOD. Which one is marked? It refers to the chip inside the Ecu, nothing to do with software settings mate 
It should be 32-1 if it's going to work on a ford
It should be 32-1 if it's going to work on a ford
25-08-2013, 08:30 PM
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25-08-2013, 08:36 PM
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even better than that........ the guide i down loaded didnt say anything about grounding the ecu except the ground for the relay to power it........
so.................
i read a few other models of gotech ecu manuals and found that i hadnt earthed the ecu lol, theres two grounds that go straight to the battery and are missing so im going to have to make them up lol
so.................
i read a few other models of gotech ecu manuals and found that i hadnt earthed the ecu lol, theres two grounds that go straight to the battery and are missing so im going to have to make them up lol
25-08-2013, 08:42 PM
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ive not tried it yet but must be something along those lines, to be honest dubs44 on here has been a great help and without him i would have given up.......
it was something karlos said that made me and dubs think and pointed to the problem, the manual i downloaded was missing that vital information about the grounds
it was something karlos said that made me and dubs think and pointed to the problem, the manual i downloaded was missing that vital information about the grounds
25-08-2013, 11:25 PM
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Thanks for the comments guys, I have seen some very 'interesting' approaches to ecu assembly even from the 'pros'.... every one make mistakes but thats what quality systems are there for. Every thing we do gets fully tested and signed off before release and normally this is done by Mike (so someone else tests your work), its backed up further by a year warranty. This has eliminated faulty items being sent out to clients, and is something imo every company producing things (little or large) should do.
Hey Rick long time no speak.
For us £250 is a subsidised price. We don't mind making the mapping fairly cheap as 9/10 we have already supplied the ecu. Further more because we only map pretty select models the cold start, warm up and idle control is 99% taken care of by the base maps we have made for various engine specs. Most only need a few tweaks on the day. Cold start for instance as you know doesn't need to be OEM perfect to work well if you don't care too much about emissions on warm up.
Boost control is setup on the dyno, as is the transient fueling both of which are infenintley simpler on the dyno. Accel enrich for instance takes 10 mins, on the road this can take a whole session, boost control takes a few pulls and then some road testing to confirm.
Leaving the majority of the tuning session to power tuning an part throttle tuning.
To be totally honest 80% of the people that see us have already done the low RPM off boost tuning as well as some on boost tuning, and some do a really good job! Which gives us loads of time to sort out the ign advance tuning etc, this definitely cuts the time an improves the results!
Recently however we did a skyline, we didn't have any base maps for it so it took 2-3 days (on and off) to get to a standard I was happy with, and thats with a further dyno session to go
However (mildly off topic ) the chap with the skyline engine races competitively, with the new ecu and a map which is half way done (low boost) he has already knocked over 1s off his last years best time which im chuffed to bits about!
However we certainly didn't charge £250 for that, so I guess the price charged really reflects the company niche and the availability of varied base maps to start from.
Rob,
For us £250 is a subsidised price. We don't mind making the mapping fairly cheap as 9/10 we have already supplied the ecu. Further more because we only map pretty select models the cold start, warm up and idle control is 99% taken care of by the base maps we have made for various engine specs. Most only need a few tweaks on the day. Cold start for instance as you know doesn't need to be OEM perfect to work well if you don't care too much about emissions on warm up.
Boost control is setup on the dyno, as is the transient fueling both of which are infenintley simpler on the dyno. Accel enrich for instance takes 10 mins, on the road this can take a whole session, boost control takes a few pulls and then some road testing to confirm.
Leaving the majority of the tuning session to power tuning an part throttle tuning.
To be totally honest 80% of the people that see us have already done the low RPM off boost tuning as well as some on boost tuning, and some do a really good job! Which gives us loads of time to sort out the ign advance tuning etc, this definitely cuts the time an improves the results!
Recently however we did a skyline, we didn't have any base maps for it so it took 2-3 days (on and off) to get to a standard I was happy with, and thats with a further dyno session to go
However (mildly off topic
) the chap with the skyline engine races competitively, with the new ecu and a map which is half way done (low boost) he has already knocked over 1s off his last years best time which im chuffed to bits about! However we certainly didn't charge £250 for that, so I guess the price charged really reflects the company niche and the availability of varied base maps to start from.
Rob,
Last edited by Rob_DOHC; 25-08-2013 at 11:28 PM.