Ben26

................the same as the mazda 3 and 6 mps engine ?

Jay,

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well the new one will be a re worked version yes

Ben26

So the version 1 mps 2.3 turbo what engine is that from ?? . Is it the same as the ST focus then but smaller displacement ?

botters

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all based on volvo engines iirc

CrOwSoN15

Didn't think the Mazda unit was Volvo derived?

Jay,

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they are mazda not volvo

Cossie Sean

4 pot 2.3 same as duratec/mondeo/galaxy

CrOwSoN15

I thought the MPS was 5 pot? Hence being less than okay on fuel?

Cossie Sean

Cylinders
L4
Displacement
2261 cm3
Power
191 KW @ 5500 RPM
260 HP @ 5500 RPM
256 BHP @ 5500 RPM
Torque
280 lb-ft @ 3000 RPM
380 Nm @ 3000 RPM
Fuel System
Direct Injection
Fuel
Petrol
CO2 Emissions
219 g/km

cabriolet

volvo derivative in early guise new one will be mazda based

botters

iTrader: (2)

im sure the st and mk2 rs engines were just tarted up volvo t5s? i know the new new ones will be ecoboost but thought all the rest were volvo based

botters

iTrader: (2)

hang on read the title and nothing else lol, yes the mazda engine is a duratec not the 5 potter and the duratec is a mazda engine not ford

Jay,

iTrader: (4)

Think of the last performance engine ford produced

botters

iTrader: (2)

crossflow? least that would probably be the last one where they didnt use 90% of input from anyone else

Ben26

Thank you.

With a steel bottom end as well ive been told

Jay,

iTrader: (4)

wasnt a performance engine in fords hands though kent tuned it

Jay,

iTrader: (4)

oops its hot lol mk2 volvo yes

botters

iTrader: (2)

im struggling to think of any other "performance" engines that ford themselves have actually made lol

Ben26

They must of made the engine in the model T

danneth

If you want it to bad they are very good on fuel, not that it happens very often.

Ben26

Just wondered how easy they were to tune as well really?

and how fast tuned they would be

im just sat here thinking about my next car , still really want a focus RS but still just "looking" at cupra R's and mps's

botters

iTrader: (2)

mps are fairly pokey in standard form just ugly as sin from the front!

danneth

I'm looking to change at the moment and I've been looking at the Leon K1 or a e90 330d totally different I know both take my fancy though.

It's quite a heavy car compared to the others in it's class, but it's a very underrated car and remove the 1st and 2nd gear limiter and have it mapped and they go very well, a friend was gutted when he turned up in his Focus ST which was also mapped and he didn't stand a chance

If you look at the spec and performance and what you are actually paying I don't think it can be beat by much really.

Ben26

^ that's what im thinking,some nice exaples on ebay at the mo, if I had the money I would get the mk2 mps and me being me it wouldn't stay standard for long anyway.
what are the standard internals like for handling more power ? I heard they were forged even the crank ?

rsmark86

iTrader: (3)

The 2.3 mps turbo engine is a duratec, Mazdas own engine as its where ford got the duratec from

Hence people upgrading the duratecs to 2.3