throttle jockey

hi fellas
any one with 3drs with 6 degree beams/adjustable tca runing 1.5 neg camber front and back, had to make arch mods and had a caster issue then on front due to the front camber
on front wheel, very close to rear of front arch, then wheel does not return from lock when you let it go if you catch my meaning.

any feedback of your experiance would be appreciated
thanks dave

Sonic Boom

iTrader: (11)

You got a photo mate?
Is it just a problem with the front?
Rich

throttle jockey

havent got a picture to hand but rear is catching at 2-3 oclock front is catching at 9-10 oclock have you had to make any mods???

Rsmat

iTrader: (2)

What size tyres and wheels mate ... And what suspension ? How low is it ?

throttle jockey

comp mo 7.5/ 17 inch 215/40x17 gaz gold shes not to low
have the rebound dial on 12 clicks alll round

JamesH

iTrader: (21)

What make beam? And have you had it properly setup on a 4 wheel alignment system?

throttle jockey

yes had it set up proper and checked again,its a scs beam baught off johnjyn on here set it up to-
rear 1.5 neg rear camber
1mm tow in

front 1.5 camber
1 mm tow in

took it to another good machine got the same readings, just wonderd if anyone has come up against these issues

Rsmat

iTrader: (2)

Well we will see .. Because ill be running 8j 17" with 205/40/17 lowered 20mm all round... And fitting a beam hope mine don't catch cos they don't now .

Rsmat

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Saw Justin's car today with the MK beam on .. Fuck me it looks steady as fuck putting 600bhp down

The Underdog

caster makes the wheel return to centre after a turn so have you altered the caster?

BRAMMER

iTrader: (23)

Has it got a Sapphire arb at the front as that will make it sit forward

throttle jockey

no caster is non adjustable as standard ,but where front camber has pushed wheel out into the arch, id be assuming the its adjusted the caster due to the non return of the steering

throttle jockey

no its got the standard 3dr front arb, when you turn the wheel, at 9clock where the arch sinks in to the point, its 2-3mm clearance, when the wheel turns lock-lock if the arb bushes were to wear and cause movment it would rip the arch off dont see how i have anything incorect all the settings have been checked over and over ill get some pics up now asap

throttle jockey

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THANKS FOR YOUR REPLYS HERES SOME PICS OF WHAT I MEAN
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throttle jockey

[QUOT<a href="http://s1117.photobuSapphire arb at the front as that will make it sit forward[/QUOTE]

THANKS FOR YOUR REPLYS HERES SOME PICS OF WHAT I MEAN

JamesH

iTrader: (21)

Copy the [IMG] tags mate

JamesH

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So to clarify, it's only happening on the front?

throttle jockey

throttle jockey

THE PICS ARE OF REARS THEY ARE ALL RUBBING HAVE TOOK RIDE HEIGHT UP,STRUGGLING AN THE PHOTO BUCKET ACC THE LAYOUT HAS CHANGED AND the img tag is not as it was cant fig it out im getting worse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rsmat

iTrader: (2)

Change to 205's on the front and it will go .. Did same as mine with 215's on !

Rsmat

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Sorry rear !

throttle jockey

throttle jockey

There deffo rears mat, every time i try to upload the fronts its coming out the same one sorry about this its cos im stpid must be doing something wrong
thanks for the advice ill give it a try 205 40 17 is it

Rsmat

iTrader: (2)

Is drivers side rubbing worse than passenger side as well ?

Rsmat

iTrader: (2)

Them marks on the sidewalls look exactly same as
What mine did with 215's mate was scuffing the kit all the time.. As soon as I went 205 it never did it

richard youll

Too much neg castor I'd say, I run 3 deg + castor turns in awesome doesn't wear tyres at all compared to std, I'm on Avo coil overs and comp struts

throttle jockey

yes drivers side is worse deffo you can see its chipped my paint there aswell on the rear.

are you running a scs beam or adj tca with camber,

Rsmat

iTrader: (2)

No I'm running .. Billet camber plates .. 8j wheels with 205/40/17 and no scrubbing .. When I fit my MK beam I hope it doent rub

tomoyb

iTrader: (3)

my 3 door rubbed at that exact same point aswell,standard beam though and sat too low,i ran 235s on rear with it raised and was fine

Sonic Boom

iTrader: (11)

I run this setup on my 3 Door:

Rear 235/40/17 888's 8 x 17 ET17
Camber Neg 1.0 degrees
Toe in 1mm overall
Front 205/40/17 888's 8 x 17 ET17
Camber Neg 1.5 degrees
Toe out 1mm overall

I have massive chopped back all 4 arches thou.

Rich

MK MOTORSPORT

iTrader: (1)

hi matt
with having the outer joint adjustable and the inner double ajustable to can move the wheel were you want and still adjust camber and castor so shouldnt be a problem

mark

B13 JUS

iTrader: (24)

I had the same problem with my 3dr. When you are pushing the tca's out to give it more camber, this makes the wheel move back because of the standard arb.
So the more camber you want the more the wheel will move back and will catch the kit.
I've had to spacer my arb to push wheels forward again.
This is making my car tram line so I think the only option is to return back to standard tca's and remove all spacers from my arb then buy some top mounts to adjust camber than way.
3drs are a night mare because of the kit.

Rsmat

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Sweet as mate

johnyjn

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Hi Dai , I was running 205/40/17 r888 all round with 2.5 neg camber on the back . It didn't catch any wear , what off set wheel are you using and have you got any spacers ?

BRAMMER

iTrader: (23)

Looking at the rear theirs something odd about that rear brake kit, it looks like the rears are being pushed out to far as a 7.5" et37?? shouldn't be causing issues like that - thats rubbing more than my wheels at 8.5" et22 same size tyre on GAZ

Rsmat

iTrader: (2)

Come to look at that now Chris it does look a tad strange .. Something isn't right .

MrC

Its like its got spacers on it lol might still have shims on it

bigluke200

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I've got et37 comps on the rear of mine and they don't come out anywhere near as far as that!

throttle jockey

hi john its a et35 no not got spacers on thats a ap rear brake kit an older one granted but not causeing a real issue to width over standard discs
agreed mate its got me f****d as said above will need to make arch mods to continue with this beam
no bud,deffo no spacers/shims on it,spoke to a few companys today some dont think i should have a prob,and my tuner told he had same probs and once you make arch mod will be fine, but still front caster issues are mind blowing have to cut the strut tops off weld in top plate fit top mounts to cure this im afraid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

throttle jockey

when you adjust camber it appears it does,my car drove nice enough befor not sure these mods are worth the hassle im in now thats for sure??