Mini Coopers....
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Has anyone got any experience in Mini's? Missus is looking at buying one. Not the Cooper S or anything just the 1.6 or boggo Cooper. She has about £2500 to spend so will be the lower end. Are they safe to buy with 100k on the clock or are they prone to breaking with high miles? She's not fussed on it being stupidly quick etc....
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This ^^, but this should have been resolved a long time ago, as it was a recall on the electric power steering.
Apart from the derv I think the only option is the 1600, the Mini One has slightly less power on paper, whilst the S is supercharged or turbocharged depending on the year.
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Apart from the derv I think the only option is the 1600, the Mini One has slightly less power on paper, whilst the S is supercharged or turbocharged depending on the year.
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Mum is on her second Cooper, and they go really well for what they are, they corner on rails too.
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If the engine is similar to the turbo'd S version (engines changed when they swapped from supercharger to turbo) I wouldn't bother as they drink oil and snap cam chains regularly and thats a £1600 repair from memory!
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We bought a mini one as a company demonstrator in 2003 and promptly got through 3 clutches and 2 gearboxes within 3 years. Admittedly that might point more towards our style of driving at the time. However, one clutch only lasted 4 months (fitted under warranty by chandlers BMW maindealer) and only the ex missus had been driving it in that time.
We upgraded to a cooper s and although we only had one clutch failure we did have the electric power steering problem (not funny when the steering virtually locks up mid corner) and head gasket went twice in 2 years ownership.
I have heard the later ones are built slightly better and still retain the go kart like handling but at your set budget you will be looking at the older models so check to make sure its all been dealt with.
I believe the power steering issue is still being sorted under warranty as an act of good faith by BMW.
We upgraded to a cooper s and although we only had one clutch failure we did have the electric power steering problem (not funny when the steering virtually locks up mid corner) and head gasket went twice in 2 years ownership.
I have heard the later ones are built slightly better and still retain the go kart like handling but at your set budget you will be looking at the older models so check to make sure its all been dealt with.
I believe the power steering issue is still being sorted under warranty as an act of good faith by BMW.
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I've had a few with over 100k that were fine.
They drive better on 15 inch wheels and are great fun to throw around with the smaller wheels and non run flats.
Gearbox on pre 2006 cars can suffer from noisy bearings but easy to spot you will here it straight away.
Elec pas common fail will show up when car gets hot BBA reman do them for around £250.
Also check for rear exhaust hanger rusting through.
ABS light is usually the connector under the seats.
Check for rusty rear disks, cheap to replace.
Also check for sticking door locks that do not unlock of the key fob these are expensive to replace £110 per side.
They drive better on 15 inch wheels and are great fun to throw around with the smaller wheels and non run flats.
Gearbox on pre 2006 cars can suffer from noisy bearings but easy to spot you will here it straight away.
Elec pas common fail will show up when car gets hot BBA reman do them for around £250.
Also check for rear exhaust hanger rusting through.
ABS light is usually the connector under the seats.
Check for rusty rear disks, cheap to replace.
Also check for sticking door locks that do not unlock of the key fob these are expensive to replace £110 per side.
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Great thanks chaps, definitely worth looking into, it would have to be an early 1.6 non-supercharged one for £2500 budget. Also looking at Fiesta ST's, could be a cheaper car to maintain?
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My sister had a 51 pate (cat c) cooper, to be honest it caused her no bother with 80k odd on the clock other than a snapped spring on the front.
I think most issues have been covered, main one is as said the gearbox on the early models and the steering.
They do seem to be a car that can either be fine, or be a total shite with lots of niggles.
If you could get an ST, or Zetec S it would be where i would put my money as they do tend to be a more reliable car but then I can also appreciate that the mini is liked by girls as they have that girly factor.
I think most issues have been covered, main one is as said the gearbox on the early models and the steering.
They do seem to be a car that can either be fine, or be a total shite with lots of niggles.
If you could get an ST, or Zetec S it would be where i would put my money as they do tend to be a more reliable car but then I can also appreciate that the mini is liked by girls as they have that girly factor.
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I've got a cooper s, very happy with it. For me it's best hammering down a country lane, I've not driven
much that handles the way the Mini does (and I have driven a lot of cars).
Expect plenty of rattles from interior trim, lower arm bushes can perish, as can top mounts. Power steering pumps give up. Early models had problems with weak gearbox failure, switched with the 04 facelift. S models have a Getrag box. The engines seem pretty strong it not too refined. Servicing is expensive.
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much that handles the way the Mini does (and I have driven a lot of cars).
Expect plenty of rattles from interior trim, lower arm bushes can perish, as can top mounts. Power steering pumps give up. Early models had problems with weak gearbox failure, switched with the 04 facelift. S models have a Getrag box. The engines seem pretty strong it not too refined. Servicing is expensive.
Edit: I guess I'm seconding what rallycross says here!
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The wife has had a facelift one (54 plate) for 5 years now and the only issue was the powersteering last year, fixed for free even though the warranty had run out ![Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
I've found they feel like they should handle well, until you get near the limit and then just want to understeer unless your completely off the power.
The Works exhaust sounds great and reminds me of my old Racing Puma.
Seats are terrible though, unless you do short miles.
She loves it though and wants a coupe.
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I've found they feel like they should handle well, until you get near the limit and then just want to understeer unless your completely off the power.
The Works exhaust sounds great and reminds me of my old Racing Puma.
Seats are terrible though, unless you do short miles.
She loves it though and wants a coupe.
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we have a 54 plate cooper s for 2 years and it has been pretty reliable
straight through the first ticket no problem
needed two tyres and a 1/2 litre of oil in the time we have had it
drive around town is bumpy even without the runflats but once out in the open they are a hoot to drive especially we a nice exhaust and reduced pulley
straight through the first ticket no problem
needed two tyres and a 1/2 litre of oil in the time we have had it
drive around town is bumpy even without the runflats but once out in the open they are a hoot to drive especially we a nice exhaust and reduced pulley
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Thanks chaps, I acually picked her up a really clean 2005 Fiesta ST in Racing Blue yesterday, beautiful condition, got an awful loud Mongoose exhaust on so will stick a standard one back on there!! Was great fun driving it home, handles surprisingly really well!
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