frog

Sorry, meant to say 35, not 25

RichardPON

So how do you judge what counts as bought for breaking or not?

For example, I go out and buy a saff for £3k tomorrow. I run it around for two months, and then circumstances dictate I need shot of it.

Are you seriously suggesting I sell it for £3k or less, instead of break it for £6k?

Have I now avoided being called a trader because I owned the car for two months?

cossiecrew

yeah but the pimpin buisness is to risky these days

Mr RS500

iTrader: (6)

Richard ,,
Please find me them cossies at 3k that break for 6k ,,lol,,

The issue isnt what you do with one car mate ,,its them that are doing 4/5 a year ( or more ). Thats the problem ,,Everyone is entitled to break there own car without being classed as a trader

cossymad

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Rossco

Hope the "Bedroom boys" are all paying tax on their profits too!!

Pete

Rab

I don't think this is fair. If Andy wants to buy a car for bits that he needs, then flog the rest as it's better than leaving it in his garden then thats not really any of your business is it?

FFS I've done it, twice, and I'm definately not a trader. This site is not just a place for the traders to sell their parts. Advertise thier business for sure, but everyone should be able to sell what they own, for whatever price they see fit. I understand you're worried about being cut out of the market, but used spare parts is something anyone can sell, for whatever they think they're worth. If the business ain't going well for you and you find you're no longer happy at what you do, find another job IMHO

RichardPON

Okay............... 3k to 6k is a slight exaggeration, but you know what I'm getting at..............

.............. which is why I said it's about how many times you break cars for sale - not why you buy them.

Mr RS500

iTrader: (6)

Rab
Why do people like you always read half of anyones posts

Andy selling his parts isnt the issue anymore

The issues are what is a trader and what isnt , We know Andy isnt ,,IT WAS A SIMPLE CASE OF A ADVERT NOT WRITTEN VERY WELL

Less.

As for these bedroom traders theres nothing to stop em payiong their fee selling afew good items then ripping people off and dissapearing

It always going to be a no win no one ver going to be happy situation

Or someone who buys a car for profit saying they had it for a few weeks but this imaganinery problem has aroise now they breaking it.

I read the whole post but if people question you where your cars from you break would you traders like it no.

Dan_L

I think there should be a rule on how many cars you can break a year, either 1 or 2 whole cars before you have to be a trader. If the same person keeps coming up selling a whole cars worth of bits then I think the traders have every right to get pissed off but not over 1 car.
This won't stop the traders problems of the bedroom traders as there are still many other places that parts can be sold but I think it will help the problem a lot on PF.

Rab

I did read the lot. I realise it was a misunderstanding. BUT, if people want to buy a car, then decide to break it (remember, selling cars ain't as easy as it used to be) then why not? If I own a something, then surely I should be able to sell it however I want?

Dirty Harry

iTrader: (12)

read what the thread is about mate before making stupid comments,and for the record seeing thats your so concerned about my business its doing very very well infact too well I cant get enough stock to please my custumers both here and abroad its a big world out there you know not just PF

Less.

Would it not be possible for Pet to add a counter of how many adds somone has so this situation does not arise again.

So if any has complaints about a meber a mod can check how many items their selling and how regular

Dan_L

Yes but if people are doing this all the time and not paying the traders fee then its hardly fair on the traders that are paying the fee is it?

Rab

if it's doing so well, and it's such a big world out there then why get upset about a few bedroom traders, as you call them, selling a few bits and bobs here?

Rab

But who does it all the time...... Can't be many PF regualrs that are...

Dirty Harry

iTrader: (12)

yes it can be stopped and it is now,younhavnt been reading properly have you,all traders need to provided a cheque with the company name on it hence no more bedroom traders

I break cars for pure profit and make no secret of it,you see its my job.so no anyone can ask me what they like

Dirty Harry

iTrader: (12)

principal

Dan_L

I'm not sure mate, perhaps Pete could give an example of who these people are that are taking the piss or is just the odd person breaking the odd car?

Rab

Okay okay, that I can understand...

But, if I was needing a part, say something breakable like a set of headlights. Who do you think I'd go to? Mr Bedroom, who I meet in a darkened car park and swap £30 quid for some shonky half smashed lights? Or do I phone you, and pay £40 for a set of correctly packaged lights sent straight to my door?

I have seen you get more positive comments on here than someone saying BIG UP Mr Bedroom for sorting me with a (insert part here)

Less.

Yes I dont the whole in and out I admit I sell cars for a profit but none of my cars really suitable for Pf.

I starting out but pay my taxes etc not registered as a company yet.

But does that make me a bedroom trader we all have to start somewhere or nay Less genuine that a large company no.

I am sure you had to start somehwere Pete.

I myself get pissed at a few on here that sell cars regular on this site and dont pay the traders fees.

But yes if a Rs come up cheap enough to break I would,but if I not a registered company how I pay my traders fees.

Ryan

Just out of curiousity what do you get from a trader that you dont get from a bedroom trader?

Rab

Piece of mind, a garuntee if what they sent you isn't what you paid for then a solution. I once (in my younger days) bought a turbo from a lad on a site just like this to find it wasn't a freshly rebuilt stage 3 T3, but infact a slightly shonky stanard one.... Could I find him for a refund????

Nope...

cossymad

Service with a smile
Knowledge
Guarentees
Receipts
Communication
Acknowledgement
Respect
Honesty
Advice

Dirty Harry

iTrader: (12)

blowjob
a silly question reallyI remember a certain bedroom trader who came along and undercut everyone who delt in new parts on here,where is he now,no where,no profit no business simple all bedroom boys do is sell for low prices to try and gain popularity

jasonp

Rab ive bought stuff from traders and has turned out to be complete loads of shit, and nothing has been done about it when i wanted it sorted.So id have to dissagre and im sure a few other people would.

Not dissing anyone and this is my own experience

Dirty Harry

iTrader: (12)

so your saying your not self employed or run a part time business with a company bank account

Ryan

Well i know obviously when selling new parts, but with second hand parts, sorry i should have made that more clear.

And cossymad, with regards new parts from traders yes, but from breakers:

Guarentees NO!
Receipts NOT WORTH FUCK ALL TO BREAKERS "SOLD AS SEEN"
Communication YEAH GREAT PEOPLE SKILLS
Acknowledgement YEAH WHEN THEY PULL YOUR PANTS DOWN
Respect NOT LIKELY
Honesty HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH

Obviously with new parts this is completely different and i respect that

Dan_L

If someone off here seemed quite well known, had a high post count and was selling something cheaper than a trader I would buy off them before the trader. Its good to be able to see a bit of background on the person you are buying from which you can do on sites like these but if buying from the back of a magazine for example you can't.

cossymad

you saved yourself with that quick edit

Rab

Fair enough m8. Thats something for the trader involved to sort out, or they'll get negative feedback on the board and eventually go out of business cos they're crap.

Anyways, Andy wasn't trying to make a profit, or undercut anyone, so he should be allowed to sell his bits and get on with building a wicked Mk2 as he was going to. Pete_RS_Specialists should go back to making his money etc and everyone should chill out, have a tab, or one of Tiff's HobNobs if you're a girly non-smoker and we can all be pals again

Ryan

yeah sorry chris i should of been more clear, im not pointing any fingures at all, but some people seem to think that because they have a business name is makes them "perfectly ok" to deal with. Wrong.

As a couple of posts recently has shown. Once again no names.

Obviously there is the ocassional bad apple, but you shouldnt tarnish all bedroom traders as bad, i bet those people that bought parts of them were perfectly happy with the goods they got

Less.

I trade under my own name but no dont have a company cheque.

I sell 2 or 3 cars month so dont make a huge amount but enough.

All I am saying we all have to start somehwere and I as sure you did Pete and so di all the other traders on here.

So why do I have justify myself to you just as you have no need to justify yourself to me or your whether everything you do is 100 percent through the books.

Dirty Harry

iTrader: (12)

you have obviously not been shopping at the right places

PF Ben

iTrader: (1)

So the moral of the story is if a Gold Member and you're stuck with some spare bits or have bought a car to take a few bits off and then sell for a profit (cos to be honest it's NO ONES business if you make a profit or a loss), just say you've driven it around for a week and don't like it and parts are coming off it for sale. Sorted
Ben

Dirty Harry

iTrader: (12)

so what your saying is your not self employed all you do is sell cars from home and pay sod all to the tax man,is cars sales your only sourse of income or do you work in the day time

jasonp

less turning that many cars you should be a "proper" trader and im not on about the net. Turning that many cars means you should be licenced, well thats what ive been told in the past

Ryan

yeah i know pete, but thats exactly my point.

How do you know a good breaker from a bad one?

Obviously you have to find out for yourself, and if you get foooked over on parts then there's your answer

And how many breakers do a refund & reciept policy?

Ginge !

tbh ive bought stuff of traders and people on here and tbh ive found that i get a better deal off normal people but then i only buy off people i know and trust, since then i needed a part very very urgent and needed a trader for parts, i contacted a new trader that i never dealed with ( paul at north yorks ) now tbh as hes prices are soo cheep compared to ebay ect i always used him first

also i used spadge but i used him as a mate rather than a trader, still got a good deal and a fooking top guy too

i also use brom for the dificult stuff and cant fault him either, but then again i class him as a mate too

i also use stu but as i always post about his and kennys help and advice they give me i dont have to post im happy with there service