RichardPON

Oooooh - just got in and read this!

What a storm in a teacup!

Simple solution is as follows:

Andy - email me a list of the parts that you have left and consider them bought off you by me.

I will then sell them on PassionFord as a gold member at no profit.

Why? Becuase it's nobody else's fookin business where I get my parts from!

You're telling me that I go out and buy a saff cossie because I need the engine and box for a kitcar project, but I can't sell the rest of the broken vehicle on here because I might be classed as a trader.

Get some fuckin common sense people

A trader can't be determined by where they get their parts for sale - just on the regularity that they are selling parts

Shings

Rich

Surely u jest

Thats never common sense is it

J

richm

Hoo-fookin-ray!! common sense at last!!!
It's not only me who sees it that way then?

Physio

Fook Richard!! You actually made sense! Well done that man!

Shings - i will be paying my traders fee soon as the flux capacitor cost me fook all & i want a £million for it thankyou please.

richm

much more the fact that "said trader" got a wiggy on cos someone has parts for sale cheaper than he/she has.. and they think that parts should be getting much more expensive..

Shings

ERM RICH!!!!

HELLLLLOOOO

Can u help me with my cossie management question please

J

Shings

RichM

What the fucks a "wiggy"

SPADGE

Pon fook off with your commen sense you tart
I'm guessing this thread would of ended on page 1 had it not been a boring wet Monday night

mark

bet it would of if sumon was about

R4N SS

iTrader: (6)

fook me what a read

i agree with 110% on this

Pon - did u go ace cafe? thought i saw the ol jimmy hill but turned round and then you had gone

ps> Andy can I have the rear bumper please and i will DONATE u some beer money

Phil

iTrader: (1)

Something like this will be the downfall of this site, I have not read about such a stupid situation in a long time!

Some traders are like a fooking mothers knitting group the amount of bitching that goes on behind peoples backs!

Look at the facts, Andy has done nothing wrong here. If the trader really felt so strongly they can always complain/inform the relevant authorities. But no, they just want to have a whinge as someone is cheaper than them on this site! Deleting contributing Gold Member adverts such as this is not only irritating to the very people who help keep this site running but it also reduces the number of parts for sale on the site making it less usefull to those wishing to buy as well.

I don't believe for one second it has the slightest to do with covering Stu/PassionFords back for assisting illegal trading. No other website does this and there can always be disclaimers to cover themselves.

RSCossieGaz

iTrader: (6)

agree with andy 100% on this one too-anyone know who the moaning trader was by any chance

EscortWRC

I suspect that its someone who's been keeping quiet to this point....probably because they realized they were wrong and hate to admit it

Crazy Canuck

Good grief Charlie Brown, what a load of twaddle!

Only new here, but can tell Andy is one top individual from his posts and the couple of PM's I have traded.

I wont be able to make major use of the "for sale" side of PF until I am back in the UK - BUT if the decision is that Andy (and others) can not as a gold member make reasonable use of the forum as an indivudual - then I will exercise my right to not buy from the traders

If you dont like Labour, then dont vote for them.....

Fastmaul

I gotta agree with Andy here..and like Phil said..that will be the downfall of this place..What's happening lately?? I don't even come here that much anymore..i used to Love this place!!!! no I just come here when I've got nothing better to do.

RSCossieGaz

iTrader: (6)

you may find that you wont be the only one

tracktoy

possibly the most boring thread ever, cant believe i just wasted 3/4 hour of my life reading it

andy you paid your £20- enough said

get the bits up, i might need something

andyescos

if it's who I think it is, then wooooah, but as I've said, my problem aint with the trader, he can have have say as much as the next guy(Or gal)I wish you mods could read the pm's I've been getting all night, Oh, sorry, you can can't you.lol, I've deleated the important ones, but I sugest you do some research as if you think I'm a trader,the(I'm gonna stop my self here)

Check out the parts section tonight y'all.

andyescos

R4NSS, I thought you had a 3 door, will a spphy rear bumper fit?(damn, me and my mouth, looks like this threads off to the Sin Bin)

BillyCabrio

iTrader: (1)

Totally agree 100%, no beating of the bush either! (like me )

Adam Ash

WTF ???

just got home from work and read all this


makes me feel gutted that PF has come to this reminds me VERY much of the RSOC BB before it went tits up


Andy isn't a trader, he has'nt done anything wrong as far as i can see. if its going this way, it may as well just FULLY PAID TRADERS ONLY for ANY for sale item.


as much as i hate to say it, its just kind of thing which will eventually make PF go down the pan.


dont think i will be re-newing my gold membership as IMO it now offers nothing


without ORDINARY people breaking the odd car, there wouldnt be much choice of spare parts


https://passionford.com/forum/search.php?mode=results

type in BREAKING in the search options and then COSWORTH PARTS FOR SALE and see how many NON TRADERS are breaking cars and there are no problems with these people



pathetic

tenpotturbo

no way should the thread hve been banned at end of day we all want parts for best prices for our hard earned

cfoster

Andy, sell me all the bits you left and as Im a PF Trader Ill sell the bits for you at your cheap prices!! I cant see that every single item every trader sells on here gets VAT added (generating higher prices) and goes through company books etc....

Just read the whole 7 pages and what a load of old bollox. I had a pm the other day from a mod asking not to put a friends car up for sale. Not sure if he had noticed but that thread was putting up fookin donkeys ago before all this shit had arisen. I should've re-phrased it I suppose saying ive bought it to sell on for a profit beign a trader an all!

Chris

Paddy

you know i only deleted that thread because your mates car was getting slagged off somewhere else and it had started happening on your thread how old the post was, is irrelevant

The fact you were posting for a mate and I sent you a link to the new rules was an afterthought, don't take it personally

I know Andy and I know he's not a trader.

Sure, he likes dressing up as Gandalf which is a bit weird, but I personally couldn't give a f*ck what anyone posts up for sale.

cfoster

yeah i know why fella. But as a trader can i sell cars on behalf of friends who dont have internet access???

Chris

Paddy

Yeah of course

Just make sure they don't post on the same thread if they're not Gold Members

TheBishMan

Just had a quick peep in the RS parts for sale room...can someone tell me why this thread hasn't been deleted? Seems like exactly the same situation to me.....

https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...light=breaking

Rab

I posted another example earlier. I think this is just a certain trader with a bee up his arse.................

TheBishMan

But surely if the mods have sided with the trader in this instance, that rule must apply for everybody? Or are we saying that it's okay to buy and break a car without trader status as long as no-one complains?

As far as I can see there has been almost full support for andy's view...listen to your members Stu!!

Rab

Yeah, listen to us!

K3V HA

Fcukin hell, what a read!!!

Gotta feel sorry for Stu having to read all this fcuker!!

And PMSL at spadges little pictures half way thru!!

CossieRich

iTrader: (1)

Just read all 7 pages. Damn. I became a gold member last week in order to sell my intercooler. Does this mean i have broken the rules?

Gra

gotta feel for Stu having to read all this, i went to bed last night it was only on 1 page, got up at 6 and the fooker was on 6 pages

Dannfire

Spoken like a true retard.......

Dannfire

Why did the mod who received the PM from the trader not inform him that Andy is clearly not a trader and not bin the post...????

frog

The way I see all this, is that if andy had not said, I am getting this car and will be selling bits off it, no one would have been none the wiser, so he gets it for being honest about it all

So I am allowed (as a gold member) to sell up to four cars a year, is there a duration I have to have owned the car before I can put it up for sale ? I can't see one So, if I buy and car and sell it two weeks later at a profit because I bought a bargain, does that make me a trader ? Would I be breaking the rules that say I can sell four cars a year ?

If traders are not happy about general folks being able to sell on PF, parts will appear on eBay instead - result, nobody's any better off...

Now, here's a suggestion... All I've seen so far is stu this and stu that, I am sure he's open to suggestions, from all, not just traders or gold members, so rather than rant, offer useful options that can be taken forward

IMO anyone should have the option of "buying" additional exposure on PF, trader or not, you want a larger animated signature - that's an extra £10 a year, you want a banner advert, that's £200 a year.
If you sell things on a regular basis, you'll want the exposure and pay for the privilege (as traders do). More exposure = more sales hopefully.

In order to ensure that sellers are "propper", how about a ranking system like eBay's ? The more you sell, and the better you do it, the more likely peeps will come to you, the crap ones will soon disappear off the face of PF.

Can't remember who asked about selling a load of parts stashed in his dads garage, but he'd have to setup a business to be able to sell here, remember, stu will only accept business cheques for traders, fair enough, but for someone to get rid of a load of bits in the garage, they have to go and setup a bank account, etc... don't think that's going to happen somehow...

Traders were initially setup as a way to generate an up front fund for PF, they pay a reasonable amount of money and can be expected to do so every year thus ensuring a reliable source of income for the web site, however, how many paid up gold members are there ? Surely these won't dry up over night. Surely, these contributions are now enough for PF to run, membership could increase to £25 to make up for the difference, I'd still pay, and so would a whole load of others too I am sure.

By being too "commercial", PF will alienate the traders and the members alike, traders because they have "unfair" competition (there was eBay, can't see them having a go at eBay for letting joe bloggs sell on there), members because they can't sell anything on here without being lambasted by traders.

IMO, the rules are too too woolly to make proper sense, too much left to interpretation, make it simpler and the winging will stop

CossieRich

iTrader: (1)

Nice on greg. That makes alot of sense.

TIFF

7 pages

frog

Thanks.

Phil

iTrader: (1)

So, has Andy's for sale advert been re-instated yet?

Andy, ring up the tax man and tell them what you are doing (Buying a car at retail price because you need some parts from it, then privately selling on what you don't need) and see if they want you to declare this. If they do then you are a trader if not then your ad should be re-instated IMHO

There have been some good comments on this thread (frog and PON to name but a few) can the powers that be please take note of these and not just moan and ask natter on about locking the thread!