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Old 14-03-2005, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan
I for one think this board has turned in to a joke regards some traders attitudes to towards what we can and cant sell on here.

They like mini Hitlers who winge to the mods whenever a "bedroom" trader undercuts them on price.

Just my opinion of course

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ryan still not got in the garage yet mate will do soon
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Old 14-03-2005, 09:47 PM
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The 'trader' knows Andy has bought it to take a few parts off and sell on the bits ,he has admitted this in the begining.

He knows Andy is not vat reg and not paying tax,therefore doing illegal trading,yes.

He has complained and Stu cannot let this go on.

If anyone is wishing to do this in the future, keet it shut!! about what you are doing.

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Old 14-03-2005, 09:47 PM
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the 2 sides to every story is just me trying to remain neutral so you can all have a fair say,
Tiff, Not aimed at you, nor Stu, as I have alot of respect for the man in setting up this site, am I not LEGALLY allowed to sell parts after Ł20 has left my bank account to be a Gold member?
I will be posting up what I have left tomorrow(not much), if it gets removed I won't be happy, I've been perfectly polite and courteous throughout the whole matter and to the best of my knowledge not broken any Pf rules, If it is removed, I would like my gold membership fee back or I will take this further.Not throwing my toys out of the pram, just try to see what I've been doing all night, and see it from others point of view,
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^^ innit Ryan

theres a fair few mini hitlers on here ....god forbid a paying member lets there signature go 300 bytes over the limit, its almost instant dismissal


btw. for what its worth which prob. aint much, 100% behind ya Andy i mean ffs the guy is selling a few ford parts on a ford site.. in most instances you can do that for free on any forum. ok not on this one, fair enuf so hes paid Ł20....now he cant?!?!?!?

so basically Ł20 gives you access to some cheap porn and thats it really (apart from a ton of grief )
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Old 14-03-2005, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Deano
Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Originally Posted by Deano
Originally Posted by Paddy

ffs I offered to sell all the bits he has left over
But then wont your thread be deleted too for offering such a service
No cos paddy is a trader you bone head Deano
Really ??????? So we can all ask Paddy to advertise all the spare parts people have knocking about then ?

No I didnt think so you Si
Good idea
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Old 14-03-2005, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SPADGE
Originally Posted by Thrush
Spadge is a trader. He buys and breaks/sells more stuff that I see anyone do on this site, and from what I can tell that's what he does (I don't know if he has another job, never heard it mentioned tho)

I would hardly say i sell more stuff on here than anyone else Thrush
The only car i have broken this year to date was my own heap of shit
Most of the stuff i have for sale is my own and not bought for gain and i have broken less cars than some 'gold members' on here in the last 12 months!
I still however pay my 'Traders Fee' as that is what i am regardless of what i am selling!
No job on the side this is all i do but i do have other income
The pension?

Traders are having to charge more i read recently to cover being beaten to cars for sale etc...... Whcih trader was it?
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Old 14-03-2005, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ballin
^^ innit Ryan

theres a fair few mini hitlers on here ....god forbid a paying member lets there signature go 300 bytes over the limit, its almost instant dismissal


btw. for what its worth which prob. aint much, 100% behind ya Andy i mean ffs the guy is selling a few ford parts on a ford site.. in most instances you can do that for free on any forum. ok not on this one, fair enuf so hes paid Ł20....now he cant?!?!?!?

so basically Ł20 gives you access to some cheap porn and thats it really (apart from a ton of grief )

exactly
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Old 14-03-2005, 09:56 PM
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Oh, and my problem aint with the trader, sorry if I've undercut you, fancy buyimg a cheap Sapphire? I'll do you a good deal!lol
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Old 14-03-2005, 09:56 PM
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you only have to pay vat when your yearly gross exceeds 54k as a trader so him geting away with not paying vat cant be the issue as he wouldnt have to pay it anyway, sounds like a bit of a spitefull trick to be honest, but i dont know the full facts so i'll reserve judgement
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Old 14-03-2005, 09:59 PM
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Its not illegal to sell parts and not be VAT registered?

you dont have to be VAT registered at all to sell parts

VAT registration is a choice upto a certain point of income

To sell under a company name that is different but selling privately under no name is totally fine as far as im aware

you telling me people at the car boot sales are VAT registered and have a company name

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Old 14-03-2005, 09:59 PM
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alex,

you do not have to be vat registered to be a trader.

you only have a legal requirement to be vat registered if you earn, or will earn, more than Ł56k in a financial year iirc.
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Old 14-03-2005, 09:59 PM
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And that is exactly way i never payed my Ł20, cos i dont get anything less than anyone else......

And i agree with above coments about peopel who just winge for the sake of it...

Oh well!!
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Old 14-03-2005, 10:00 PM
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they are the facts!
Nah Spadge, got it off a mate who's had it for years and never finished it.
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Old 14-03-2005, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan
Its not illegal to sell parts and not be VAT registered?

you dont have to be VAT registered at all to sell parts

VAT registration is a choice upto a certain point of income

To sell under a company name that is different but selling privately under no name is totally fine as far as im aware

you telling me people at the car boot sales are VAT registered and have a company name

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Only if they are selling NEW items iirc. Mate used to do the car boots regular and had a company name as he sold Sweets No not settees
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Old 14-03-2005, 10:02 PM
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completely agree with ryan

this place is properly going to pot with all this selling bollox

we all know who the trader is

we all know andy isnt a trader and has parts for sale as a non trader jsut selling on unwanted bits (even if his dash is overpriced )

what a load of bollox

how many propper RS breakers declare all there cash sales

i bet if we "complained" to mr inland revenue they wouldnt be so happy
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Old 14-03-2005, 10:02 PM
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wonder how many pm's stu has
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Old 14-03-2005, 10:03 PM
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Dave cos, please list up where you got your information from? ie what source. If these are second hand parts then the vat has already been paid on them.
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
The 'trader' knows Andy has bought it to take a few parts off and sell on the bits ,he has admitted this in the begining.

He knows Andy is not vat reg and not paying tax,therefore doing illegal trading,yes. really hes sold over as already said 50000ks worth of stuff

He has complained and Stu cannot let this go on.

If anyone is wishing to do this in the future, keet it shut!! about what you are doing. do u wish to be cum a mod then

eh Doo.


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Old 14-03-2005, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tonyk
Dave cos, please list up where you got your information from? ie what source. If these are second hand parts then the vat has already been paid on them.
Agreed. You only pay income tax on the profit made on them.
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Old 14-03-2005, 10:07 PM
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Im in the same situation as tiff and a fully agree.

I have no problem with it myself but on the other hand the moderators dont make the rules, we just try and make sure people follow them.
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tonyk wrote:
Dave cos, please list up where you got your information from? ie what source. If these are second hand parts then the vat has already been paid on them.


Agreed. You only pay income tax on the profit made on them.
Lee VAT and Tax 2 different things lol
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Old 14-03-2005, 10:07 PM
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Just to throw another iron in the fire
How many of you 'gold members' that are saying you have the right to sell stuff on here paid your 20 quid over a year ago?
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ALL IMHO

I like others have bought MOT failed motors because i need what ever parts for my own project and have sold what i dont need in whatever forum on here.

If i buy an old banger for Ł50 because it has a few parts i need that aint available because their rare (S1 parts), then flog the rest on here and make more than what i paid for the car in the first place, can that be really helped?

Surely it would just be plain stoopid to scrap the whole car when theres prob loads of clips, panels etc..... that people need for their own projects or general repairs on their cars.

I dont recall Auto Trader ever being a neiche market for rare parts, its places like this that make people in my postion able to do what we do with our beloved Fords.

I'm currentley in the process of going 50/50 with someone else on here to buy an old Ford so between us we can use the bits we need to further our own projects............

So what do i/we do now with what we have left of the car when we have taken what we need??

Personally i'd rather see the parts/bits goto peeps off of here rather than peeps from Ebay.
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Old 14-03-2005, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny@RADesigns
tonyk wrote:
Dave cos, please list up where you got your information from? ie what source. If these are second hand parts then the vat has already been paid on them.


Agreed. You only pay income tax on the profit made on them.
Lee VAT and Tax 2 different things lol
thats what im saying! Ya dont pay VAT on used items, only income tax. I know what vat is.
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Old 14-03-2005, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BillyCabrio
ALL IMHO


If i buy an old banger for Ł50 because it has a few parts i need that aint available because their rare (S1 parts), then flog the rest on here and make more than what i paid for the car in the first place, can that be really helped?

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No it cant be helped, but if you do make more money you should send it to the legit traders to help put bread on their tables
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i was the one who pmd andy im a man of few words yes! well i see it like this as he has bought the car to BREAK and make some parts and bit of cash on its trading as it has been bought for profit! then i get not just one pm mate and it was nothing to do with atm before u keeep banging on at him about you trading on pf ryan was not allowd as he bought parts to make money on and your not for the same reason! end of statement and end of matter for me please i will not reply on this thread again
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No it cant be helped, but if you do make more money you should send it to the legit traders to help put bread on their tables
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Originally Posted by Danny@RADesigns
There's no way andy is a trader, everyone knows that he's a firefighter surely?? That suggestion is just pathetically laughable IMO.
So please, let's hear the other side of the story that Andy isn't telling us..

But whats stopping him buying cossies and breaking em whilst not at work????? I know he prob aint and its not me complaing but there are ppl out there who do this so even working full time doesnt mean they aint tradin on ere
Danny, behave lol - Do you REALLY believe that is the case here?..... ebay is a lot better place to be doing that..
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Old 14-03-2005, 10:15 PM
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Payed under 12 months ago
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Originally Posted by Mr.Manchester
Im in the same situation as tiff and a fully agree.

I have no problem with it myself but on the other hand the moderators dont make the rules, we just try and make sure people follow them.
I HAVENT BROKEN ANY RULES, simple , but buy paying my Ł20 and told I cant put my parts up, surely someone else has? As I said, I'll be putting up what's left tomorrow night. and ref VAT and stuff, not really interested.
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Old 14-03-2005, 10:16 PM
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so in theory then guss anyone can become a trader?

yes?
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GUS Andy has already stated he didnt buy it to make money on. He has given parts away. Now if he was a new user i prob wouldnt beleive him, but as he is a regular and one of the decent blokes of the BB id say benifit of the doubt
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https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...424&highlight=

Gus? Are you a trader?
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I tried to put a post up in forsale selling new Escos Regs and it was deleted even though i actually have paid to be a trader

The majority of mods are wankers on here They dont know shit about the rules just throw there weight about and commended by Admin
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I'll wager loads havn't paid anything in the last 12 months Less and so threfore really don't have the right to be selling anything on here
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Danny, behave lol - Do you REALLY believe that is the case here?..... ebay is a lot better place to be doing that
I said i doubt he would be doing it but some ppl do
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Originally Posted by Rs Gus
i was the one who pmd andy im a man of few words yes!
and vowells, full stops and capitals by the look of it?Can we have that again in English please?
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RAB They are off GUS's own car mate....
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Originally Posted by Rab
https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=98424&highlight=

Gus? Are you a trader?
no that was my road car which i drove and loved for a year and broke it to sell it so no im not as i didnt spend 22k to get 12k
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Originally Posted by SPADGE
Originally Posted by Less
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I'll wager loads havn't paid anything in the last 12 months Less and so threfore really don't have the right to be selling anything on here
less than 12 months
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