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Old 14-03-2005, 08:26 PM
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I don't wanna pay the money (How much is it anyway) and be classes as a trader when I'm not, I've got my new Mk2 now and won't be selling any more bits after this anyway.Looks like it's gonna be ebay, or pay to be on here and put the parts at a higher price to subsidise my "traders" membership, hence why traders are, fairly enough, more expensive.
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Old 14-03-2005, 08:27 PM
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andy u dont have to Justify in what u sell m8 imo some people just ant making the money they used to in the trade
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Old 14-03-2005, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Deano
If hes paid the Ł20 for Gold membership aloowing him advertising rights then what right has a mod got to delete the thread whether that be a car for sale or parts for sale
Mate, you took that way out of context, read the next line of what i wrote.

The point I was getting at was that when someone does that, they're taking a car in part-ex in order to pay for their hobby.

Like Andy's done with the cossie, difference being he bought it to get the bits he wanted and sell the rest.
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Bet uv sold all the parts by now thou?
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Old 14-03-2005, 08:29 PM
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TBH Andy, i have noticed your post in Resto section about your garage and the DIY building you are doing on it and im going to also ask for that to be removed as you are a threat to us genuine Builders....



























Very mardi AND greedy i might add which ever trader it was IMO
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Old 14-03-2005, 08:32 PM
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Sorry Stu, but to quote your thread on a simaler matter,

"Buying an item with the sole intention of selling it again at a higher price is classed as "Trading""

If I'm selling a good shell with ID,Carpet,loom,doors and glass, bumpers and skirts etc for Ł300 and a mint Magnex for Ł200, then surely I aint making anything.
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Old 14-03-2005, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by andyescos
If I'm selling a good shell with ID,Carpet,loom,doors and glass, bumpers and skirts etc for Ł300 and a mint Magnex for Ł200, then surely I aint making anything.
FPMSL that's the best Advert ever
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Old 14-03-2005, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
TBH Andy, i have noticed your post in Resto section about your garage and the DIY building you are doing on it and im going to also ask for that to be removed as you are a threat to us genuine Builders....



























Very mardi AND greedy i might add which ever trader it was IMO
it aint a garage anymore Lee, it's a "premises!"lol.
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Old 14-03-2005, 08:34 PM
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Paddy, you'll get me banned lol, the exhaust is sold anyway and the shell may be going on Sunday anyway, they were just examples!
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Old 14-03-2005, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Paddy
...... difference being he bought it to get the bits he wanted and sell the rest.
Again mate I ask as long as hes paid his Ł20 then whats the problem
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Old 14-03-2005, 08:37 PM
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no pm's yet from those involved.
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Old 14-03-2005, 08:37 PM
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Well mostly like the site but this is one thing i dont understand.

Why have a



Forum if Gold Members cant sell, and if u read it does say gold members can sell, when the site first went pay, one of the perks was u could buy and sell and non MEMBERS couldnt, so kinda looks like the goal posts have been moved somewhat

Oh and of course I wouldnt know anything about the other perk of adult rooms lol



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Old 14-03-2005, 08:38 PM
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Interesting to see the outcome from this......if any?
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Old 14-03-2005, 08:39 PM
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I would do a search for the topic Doo posted. Stu gave IMO very good reasons as to why these are the rules.....the only thing that makes me piss is the Trader Grassing on andy...for what?
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Old 14-03-2005, 08:39 PM
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Andy i understand what you are saying, i personally dont know what the ins and outs of this are all about as i wasnt involved but on the other hand we have to work by the rules we are given.

Please be patient, im sure the mod involved will reply in due course.
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Old 14-03-2005, 08:40 PM
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Exactly Andy you have a full time job, in my opinion the person who removed this post should speak up and explain themselves and why they done it. As paying members of this forum we are entitled to know. It could be time maybe that the mod has some training to clarify the rules or indeed rules printed to cover this grey area. Maybe a check list prrinted and a sticky made at the top of each sales page.
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Old 14-03-2005, 08:40 PM
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"Buying an item with the sole intention of selling it again at a higher price is classed as "Trading""
but your not doing that are you its a joke mate if you ask me
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Old 14-03-2005, 08:40 PM
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Not as if peeps are going to make ŁŁŁŁŁ breaking the ODD car even if they do make some money.


9/10 THERE GOING TO SPEND IT AND THERE OWN CAR ANYWAY


getting fooking stupid on here now more rules on here then there ever was on the old RSOC

Maybe some of these traders may have to give it up and get a diffrent job the cossy market is flooded with parts at the moment. just put away what you got and it would be worth a mint in a few years time
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Old 14-03-2005, 08:42 PM
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Ford RS Cosworth parts for sale
Only RS Cosworth parts here please. Only Contributors (Gold members) Can post items for sale in this forum.

does seem well daft putting that dont it cus it aint true ?
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Old 14-03-2005, 08:42 PM
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Off subject a bit Andy are you a mod? Your names in green on my screen, at the top wer it list whos in GD Just curious lol

I totally agree, your obviously not a trader, so think its slightly out of order that your posts been removed

Personally I think whoever the trader was that had the problem is being damn petty, no need to complain, other than pure akwardness IMO!!!!!
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Old 14-03-2005, 08:47 PM
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Andy just out of curiosity what bits of the car did you and your mate want off it?
If you just bought it as it made the bits you needed cheaper then i can see nothing wrong with what you have done! If however you had bought it purely with the intention of breaking it on here to make a profit that makes you a trader regardless of what else you do for a livng!
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Old 14-03-2005, 08:48 PM
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Becoming a Gold Member or trader will unlock the following Passionford benefits:
Cars For sale (allows you to sell up to 4 cars PA)
Ford RS Cosworth parts for sale
Ford RS Turbo parts for sale
Ford Rs Parts For Sale (Not cosworth, or Cvh Turbo)
Ford XR Parts for sale
Ford Non RS / XR parts for sale
Non Ford parts & other stuff for sale
Alloy wheels for sale
I.C.E For sale
Ability to reply to the Parts wanted forum

i think if your a registered trader then your a trader end of and as you and many others arent its crap because the above leads you to think you can pay Ł20 and sell stuff now and then which isnt the case by the looks of things
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Old 14-03-2005, 08:49 PM
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I'm helping organise the admin side of our "team fwd" for Ten of The best.
Shall I post the ever so polite pm, but not name the mod?
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think he wanted the engine didnt he for a van or something iirc
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Old 14-03-2005, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by andyescos
I'm helping organise the admin side of our "team fwd" for Ten of The best.
Shall I post the ever so polite pm, but not name the mod?
yeah lets see it
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Originally Posted by Deano
Again mate I ask as long as hes paid his Ł20 then whats the problem
I was trying to make the point that I don't think there IS a problem

ffs I offered to sell all the bits he has left over
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Originally Posted by Paddy

ffs I offered to sell all the bits he has left over
But then wont your thread be deleted too for offering such a service
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Originally Posted by SPADGE
Andy just out of curiosity what bits of the car did you and your mate want off it?
If you just bought it as it made the bits you needed cheaper then i can see nothing wrong with what you have done! If however you had bought it purely with the intention of breaking it on here to make a profit that makes you a trader regardless of what else you do for a livng!

Yep but he cannot be a trader if he wanted to

Can`t see him getteing away with the fire brigade cheque book

STU WROTE.

Traders fees are there for people who are genuine fully paid up traders, Due to people abusing this system last year and folk being ripped of by individuals with no business sense or morals, this type of membership can now only be purchased by someone who can pay me with a business cheque that states his business name upon it. If you are unknown to me as a business (Not many in this business are) I may ask you to provide further details such as company registration number etc.

This way we have done all we can to protect the PassionFord consumers for rogue traders. Remember, newbies to the Ford Scene wont have a clue who is who trader wise so is an easy target to be instantly stung. Thats why these rules are tighter than you may expect.
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Old 14-03-2005, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Deano
Originally Posted by Paddy

ffs I offered to sell all the bits he has left over
But then wont your thread be deleted too for offering such a service
No cos paddy is a trader you bone head Deano
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Right, my mate wanted the low comp engine and bits that came with it, I wanted the filter and engine, I've GIVEN another mate all the subframes etc and standard 4x4 i'c as he's building a kitcar,and some other bits are being GIVEN again to fellow Pf members, the remains are on here, and another vreason why so cheap is cos the wifes cross about a shell in the garden!lol, sod it, do what ya want mods, it's going on ebay at a higher price,
Good luck with the site,
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andyescos, do u accept switch ?can i use paypal ?
did u sell the festa sheel in the end ?

for this reson i will not pay my 20 quid to becum a gold member ive had or should i say gone thro 4 cars akready this year cus i dont like um or there just shit but i aint no trader i sell um for wot i paid or scrap um

i think its bang out of order this is the only site i use that have this rule
i think that u should drop the gold members fee down to a tenner if this is wot is goin to happen

i dont think i no any 1 with an rs localy that dont have spares crap for there cars lyin round there place i have spare diff rear end and gear box for a cossie does that make me a trader no it makes sense as i no ill fuck 1 of those this year at least
just my 2 cents worth if u dont like it ban me
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here's the pm,

"had a complaint about u now breaking this saffy on the sly as a trader so ive binned your post"


that was it! great people mangement skills there, ever thought of running for government?
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just read the previous post by Doo.


what the mods are getting at that if you are selling parts knowing that you make money on,then you will have to be classed as a 'trader' to be allowed to sell these as the 'trader',legit one, pays 'TAX' on what he earns!

Stu, cannot let you sell things on here 'knowing' that you may make some money,therefore allowing you on here to sell things and 'not pay tax' on what ever you earn.

Stu can be prosecuted,whatever, for allowing this to go on, that is why 'traders' have to show thhat they pay 'tax'.




Something like that anyway.




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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Originally Posted by Deano
Originally Posted by Paddy

ffs I offered to sell all the bits he has left over
But then wont your thread be deleted too for offering such a service
No cos paddy is a trader you bone head Deano
Really ??????? So we can all ask Paddy to advertise all the spare parts people have knocking about then ?

No I didnt think so you Si
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Tis funny this thread
I can’t see how breaking one car makes anyone a trader.
If you break them constantly then fair enough, but once in a blue moon is good for everyone on here – apart from those traders who overcharge lol !
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Originally Posted by andyescos
here's the pm,

"had a complaint about u now breaking this saffy on the sly as a trader so ive binned your post"


that was it! great people mangement skills there, ever thought of running for government?
Whats wrong with that At least its straight to the point with no bullshit
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a trader would have a vat number for a start if he is full time
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
just read the previous post by Doo.


what the mods are getting at that if you are selling parts knowing that you make money on,then you will have to be classed as a 'trader' to be allowed to sell these as the 'trader',legit one, pays 'TAX' on what he earns!

Stu, cannot let you sell things on here 'knowing' that you may make some money,therefore allowing you on here to sell things and 'not pay tax' on what ever you earn.

Stu can be prosecuted,whatever, for allowing this to go on, that is why 'traders' have to show thhat they pay 'tax'.




Something like that anyway.




Dave.

Yep and all the traders pay TAX/VAT on every part they sale
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Originally Posted by SPADGE
Originally Posted by andyescos
here's the pm,

"had a complaint about u now breaking this saffy on the sly as a trader so ive binned your post"


that was it! great people mangement skills there, ever thought of running for government?
Whats wrong with that At least its straight to the point with no bullshit
maybe too the point, but what about the facts?I take it if it was you (as in the complainer) you'd of admitted it then Spadge, 2 traders down, lots to go lol.
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Originally Posted by Deano
Really ??????? So we can all ask Paddy to advertise all the spare parts people have knocking about then ?
Technically Deano, if I chose that as a direction in which I wanted my business to go......

Although, I can imagine I'd be banned quicker than that dude who's sore about Spadge driving his Gartrac as it was intended to be
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