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Old 13-03-2005, 09:27 AM
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Nice ove you to bring this up I am on 512 or what ever it is and I am connected @
2.2mbps I don’t know how but it is

Getting 222kB/sec on download.com and a 1.7 megabits per second on the speed test
Communications 1.7 megabits per second
Storage 205.8 kilobytes per second
1MB file download 5 seconds
Subjective rating Great

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Old 13-03-2005, 10:29 AM
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1mb pipex adsl

Downstream 1082 Kbps (135.3 KB/sec) 1168 Kbps (inc. overheads)
Upstream 242 Kbps (30.3 KB/sec) 261 Kbps (inc. overheads)

oh and christian.....



dont believe the hype
Old 13-03-2005, 10:40 AM
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Alan Ramsay wrote:
Communications 3032.2 kilobits per second
Storage 397.8 kilobytes per second
1MB file download 2.4 seconds



what connection is that on then????
A company in Edinburgh do a wireless service...they "rent" space on mobile phone towers around Edinburgh. They then install a dish on the roof of your house "line of sight" to the tower....one of them is about 500 yards from me
It is SDSL so it is 3Mb up and 3Mb down....and is also uncapped

They are planning to expand the services to 8Mb by the end of this year (8Mb up AND 8Mb down..!!)
Old 13-03-2005, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by swerv
Im on AOL 2 meg , typical results that i get-


1.7 megabits per second

Communications 1.7 megabits per second
Storage 208.4 kilobytes per second
1MB file download 4.9 seconds
Subjective rating Great
second!
Old 13-03-2005, 11:44 AM
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wait i just relised... the bandwith of USB is 2.2mbit/sec so it's reporting the connection speed between the USB port and the USB modem :P

my connection says 100mbit/sec (as its plugged into 100BaseT ethernet) but the datarate is still only 1mbit/sec :P

also for those of you that dont realise... a 2meg connection is 2 megaBITS per second...

devide by 8 to get megaBYTES per second...
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OK, so knowing that I was previously on 1meg and getting the same results (roughly) from the Bandwidth Test and similar speeds in downloading files as I do having been upgraded to 2meg, should I be buying a new Modem/Router?? Or do I have to just assume that there are alot of people in my area getting the service, therefore slowing it all down??

So, keeping it sensible, whats the best Router to buy?
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
wait i just relised... the bandwith of USB is 2.2mbit/sec so it's reporting the connection speed between the USB port and the USB modem :P
So what are you saying?? That window used to say 1.1Mbps before we were upgraded.
Old 13-03-2005, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Ramsay
Alan Ramsay wrote:
Communications 3032.2 kilobits per second
Storage 397.8 kilobytes per second
1MB file download 2.4 seconds



what connection is that on then????
A company in Edinburgh do a wireless service...they "rent" space on mobile phone towers around Edinburgh. They then install a dish on the roof of your house "line of sight" to the tower....one of them is about 500 yards from me
It is SDSL so it is 3Mb up and 3Mb down....and is also uncapped

They are planning to expand the services to 8Mb by the end of this year (8Mb up AND 8Mb down..!!)
Fook me Alan got any links for the company? and is it expensive?
Old 13-03-2005, 12:56 PM
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sdsl is expensive... its designed for business etc. as it's 1:1 and has a decent upload speed

christian, i just double checked and i was wrong about the 2.2mbit thing... its actually 12mbit and 480mbit :P sorry.

its still not just reporting what its TOLD to report tho :P that icon never gives a true representation. bit like how people used to think their 56k modem was magically connecting at 115kb... it was just reporting the speed of the serial port not the connection :P
Old 13-03-2005, 04:27 PM
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219.9 kilobits per second

Communications 219.9 kilobits per second
Storage 26.8 kilobytes per second
1MB file download 38.1 seconds
Subjective rating Mediocre

256k connection on Tiscali
Old 13-03-2005, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
wait i just relised... the bandwith of USB is 2.2mbit/sec so it's reporting the connection speed between the USB port and the USB modem :P
it always used to say 576kbps now it says 2.2mbps, same usb port, same modem
Old 13-03-2005, 10:10 PM
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Just did 3 tests off the link posted and got 3 different results....

Lowest was 1.3mb/sec

Highest was...

Communications 1.7 megabits per second
Storage 210.4 kilobytes per second
1MB file download 4.9 seconds
Subjective rating Great

Ive got 2mb/sec BT Yahoo Broadband

Old 13-03-2005, 10:45 PM
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matt, its probbly a setting on the USB modem then. perhaps the cap exists in the modem itself rather than the provider end or maybe its just some clever little trickery that looks really cool (in an IT geek kinda way )

ntl works this way... you can just ftp into your set top box and change the settings et voila... unlimited speed broadband

only thing i know for sure however that this is a reported speed coming from the hardware, its just the way windows works.
Old 14-03-2005, 02:15 AM
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1.2 megabits per second

Communications 1.2 megabits per second
Storage 151.2 kilobytes per second
1MB file download 6.8 seconds
Subjective rating Good


thats my report looks shit
running 2 meg adsl bt
Old 14-03-2005, 02:30 PM
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Fook me Alan got any links for the company? and is it expensive?
http://www.accelerate.net.uk/product...alproducts.php

Ł50 a month
Old 14-03-2005, 02:36 PM
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Downstream 1848 Kbps (231.0 KB/sec) 1995 Kbps (inc. overheads)
Upstream 238 Kbps (29.8 KB/sec) 257 Kbps (inc. overheads)
Old 14-03-2005, 02:42 PM
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alan, thats only in certain areas of scotland
Old 14-03-2005, 02:48 PM
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[EDIT]

POSTED IN WRONG SECTION

[EDIT]
Old 17-03-2005, 01:48 PM
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Communications 1.7 megabits per second
Storage 213.5 kilobytes per second
1MB file download 4.8 seconds
Subjective rating Great


Yay!

On bt broadband,
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So, its looks like by BT Broadband 2mb Connection is HALF the speed of everyone elses.......

WHY WHY WHY???
Old 17-03-2005, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
So, its looks like by BT Broadband 2mb Connection is HALF the speed of everyone elses.......

WHY WHY WHY???
As jim said before, you might have the ability to get 2Mb at the best of time, but 50 people in your area also have that ability.

Everyone funnels into a single piece of kit (a DSLAM) which has connectivity to the wider web behind it (kinda like a funnel).

So, if the DSLAM only has a 2Mb connection to the wider world, and there are 50 people connected at the same time, all downloading something at the same time, they each get a share in the 2Mb pie.

If everyone's PC is off, except yours, you will enjoy the whole pie.

I hope this makes sense

I have done several order and inventory management s/w roll-outs for DSL providers worldwide, your contract somewhere will say that the only service level guarantee your provider has to you with regards to bandwidth is 2Mb/50, so not much in essence. You can pay more to have 20:1, 5:1 or even 1:1 depending on the providers.

Your advantage is that a 50th of 2Meg is better than a 50th of 512k (which is what I have), so you are better off overall, but not quite as much as you thought

One provider I did work for recently had packages for 512k (amongst other things), but only guaranteed 4.8k at worst (that's less than modem speed btw).
And no, the name of the provider will NOT be made public
Old 17-03-2005, 03:40 PM
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what frog said :P

if you want a 2mb 1:1 connection then you're looking at $$$$$$$$$$
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OK, but look at it this way.......

Gary @ APT lives 10 minutes walk away from me.......

NeilFromNorfolkNoCar (my brother) also lives 10 minutes walk away from me.......

If you looked from above, you could draw a triangle between our houses. I live in a 'Normal' Area. Mainly older people! No Flats/Students etc. Gary lives in an area where there are alot more houses/flats close by.

However, it doesnt seem to matter when I run a test I get roughly the same results, which show around half the speed that both of the above people get. I have never seen any better. All three of us are on BT Broadband 2 Meg.

Thats what I cant understand.
Old 18-03-2005, 11:37 AM
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Maybe down to line quality then. Old/bad connections anywhere in the cabling will make a difference
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When we moved in 12 Months ago, BT Installed a New cable from the Telegraph Pole to the Bungalow and I have a cable connected to the Master Connection Point on the Front Fascia of the Bungalow that goes directly and without any further breaks to my one and only Telephone socket, using BT's cable.

They need a phone call. I'm not happy with it.
Old 19-03-2005, 10:01 AM
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Call them and get them to sort it out for you. There is a lot more cabling involved than simply from the telegraph pole and that probably is old and decrepit.
Also, while you may be close to your two mates, you could be the furthest from the telephone exchange, which could make a difference.
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i've got a netgear 54mbps wireless adsl firewall router and i'm on bt voyager105 512k but i can,t set up the netgear can anybody help
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This is the best place to test your connection.
http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/speedtest.asp

Downstream 1780 Kbps (222.5 KB/sec)

And this passes through a Linux based router/firewall (Smoothwall), SonicWall SOHO3 firewall and an 8 port switch
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the test may lie on Unorthodox not to be had programs
imm running 2meg on bt adsl but kazza lite k++ flys on music files
and vids
but theres no how much band width you have used till march april
they say will send you a email when your getting half way there
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jim you are incorrect

christian does have a 2.2 line as it says

im on a 4mbps line and thats what mine says

when i had a usb modem for 1mb it said 1.1 and 2.2 it said 2.2

for 4mbps it says 4.0 then i switched to an ethernet router
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Yes, Craig, thats my point. When I was on what BT called '512k' Connection, my Status said '576kbps'.

When I was upgraded to 1mb, my status said '1.1mbps'

Now I am on 2mb, my status says '2.2mbps'.

So from that point of view, a change has definately been made somewhere.

I am considering buying a decent Router. I never got on with the BT one as they dont give you a proper User Guide and wont give you any help setting up Port Forwarding as they dont approve of the things that you do once you set that up.

Some people have suggested a Netgear Wireless Router. Wireless would be useful to me, but I dont want to further slow my connection down. Any suggestions on that one?
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craig, re-read what i said... i corrected myself lateron.

however as mentioned, thats still not a measurement of the line speed. it is what the modem is telling the PC. it could say 12mbps if it wanted to, wouldnt mean you could actually get that speed.

http://www.pcguide.com/ts/x/comp/mod...ghSpeed-c.html

that applies to normal modems, but the concept is the same behind all reported windows networking speeds.
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bulldog do 8meg but not every yet!!!
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Originally Posted by pauldudley
bulldog do 8meg but not every yet!!!
Thats OK as long as it is 8 times faster than what you get on 1mb. I bet there is some catch to it though.
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Originally Posted by Guinnless
This is the best place to test your connection.
http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/speedtest.asp

Downstream 1780 Kbps (222.5 KB/sec)

And this passes through a Linux based router/firewall (Smoothwall), SonicWall SOHO3 firewall and an 8 port switch
i got

Your Connection
Direction
Actual Speed
True Speed (estimated)

Downstream 1763 Kbps (220.4 KB/sec) 1904 Kbps (inc. overheads)
Upstream 242 Kbps (30.3 KB/sec) 261 Kbps (inc. overheads)

was running zonealarm & agv antivirus at the time

is that anygood for bt adsl 2meg ??
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As someone else said above.... who cares what these "speedtest" results say?
They will be different EVERY time!!
Every time you run one, take into account how busy the net is on the route the data is taking from the server conducting the test to your house and only then will you make any sense from the results.
Aslong as you are getting a good rate when you download does it really matter?

Its like taking your car to a rolling road you dont know or trust, but suddenly taking their figures as the gospel truth
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Originally Posted by martyn
As someone else said above.... who cares what these "speedtest" results say?
They will be different EVERY time!!
Every time you run one, take into account how busy the net is on the route the data is taking from the server conducting the test to your house and only then will you make any sense from the results.
Aslong as you are getting a good rate when you download does it really matter?

Its like taking your car to a rolling road you dont know or trust, but suddenly taking their figures as the gospel truth
You dont think I started this because I was merely worried about the results I was getting on the test do you??

I have NEVER seen above 50kb/sec while Downloading on Emule and if I download a file from Microsoft, I NEVER see above 130-150kb/sec. That doesn't equate to what everyone else says that get on 2mb Connection.

The most annoying thing is on here though. With the Pic Resizing thing on the threads, you have to wait for all the pics to load before you can view a thread sensibly. On 2mb, you wouldn't expect to be waiting for very long, would you? I have to wait a while and watch the pics load one-by-one just as I used to do on 56k. OK, so not quite that slow, but not what I would expect for a connection that is supposed to be 20 times faster than 56k.
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Emule isnt exactly the best thing to judge things by is it...
The speeds u get on there are dictated by how fast other users upload speeds are.

Also, just cause u have a fast connection, that doesnt mean every thing u do on the net will be fast either.
Mine can take awhile to load threads on here too, but thats how it works.
People seem to think that a fast connection means that any page will appear in an instant, where as the text will do as we all know Pf runs fast anyway. but what about the pictures people are hosting all over the place?
One persons might be on photobucket, someone elses on their own bt webspace, another on freeserve etc etc. Your pc is having to fetch those pics from each location, some of which are faster than others, which is why pages can take awhile to load.
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
I have NEVER seen above 50kb/sec while Downloading on Emule and if I download a file from Microsoft, I NEVER see above 130-150kb/sec. That doesn't equate to what everyone else says that get on 2mb Connection.
It is possible that microsoft throttle the downloads at their end to maximise their bandwidth and enable more people to download at the same time

Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
The most annoying thing is on here though. With the Pic Resizing thing on the threads, you have to wait for all the pics to load before you can view a thread sensibly. On 2mb, you wouldn't expect to be waiting for very long, would you? I have to wait a while and watch the pics load one-by-one just as I used to do on 56k. OK, so not quite that slow, but not what I would expect for a connection that is supposed to be 20 times faster than 56k.
I find that too, and it seems worse since the picture resizing thing came on. Probably because no one bothers to resize now, so there are more big pictures about. It could also be (no sure), that the image caching doesn't work.
I put a post up about this a while ago
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Originally Posted by frog
Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
I have NEVER seen above 50kb/sec while Downloading on Emule and if I download a file from Microsoft, I NEVER see above 130-150kb/sec. That doesn't equate to what everyone else says that get on 2mb Connection.
It is possible that microsoft throttle the downloads at their end to maximise their bandwidth and enable more people to download at the same time
Lots of people on here that the best way to test your connection quality was to download a file from Microsoft. So thats what I did.

So, if I can never download beyond 150kb/sec and I have to wait for pages to load, what exactly is the point of a faster Internet Connection?? Am I missing the point somewhere? I didn't opt for faster Internet because I wanted to go down the pub and tell my mates that I am on 2mb Connection.

I understand that using P2P software depends on who you are downloading from. But as Internet Speeds are increasing, surely the AVERAGE should also increase?? On Average if I download a single file on Emule, it MIGHT hit 50kb/sec, but will probably be 30kb/sec or less, this is no better than I was getting 6 months ago on 1mb and to be honest, its only marginally better than when I was on 512kb.

The only reason it frustrates me is when I post a thread on the subject and EVERYONE that is on BT 2mb seems to be able to do stuff alot faster than me. It seems that Bandwidth tests consistently return 1.7mbits for almost everyone on this package and mine is half that.


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