STAFFY OWNER

Earlier on i checked the number plate of a Jaguar along the road from me on the DVLA website to see if it was taxed as the wiper blade seemed to be conveniently placed over the tax disc date (no i wasn't intending to grass the guy up i was just curious).

The car is a 4 litre V8 Jaguar S-Type automatic and it costs him £220 to tax it for a year or £121 for 6 months, my car is a 2 litre Focus RS and it costs me £270 for the year or nearly £150 for 6 months. How does that work? My car engine is half the size of his but i pay more tax .


Just in case you were wondering - or not - the Jaguar is taxed.

the_frozen_one

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The jag is on the old pricing scheme.

My mates 1.1 fiesta is the same price.

No need to cry

studabear

just taxed the wifes focus st at £270 a year 20mpg makes up for it though

matthewpickup

when i had the 1.8td it was the same price as a cosworth , mind you it did use as much oil as it did fuel lol

daz1968

As above is plg tax class, my scooby is same as its an import but uk ones are £270 for same year, but later cars are a lot more about £460 I think.

matthewpickup

same with the evos i think it goes up after 2006 model

P_is_for_Paul

My gf just bought a fiesta Zetec S tdci, £20 a year tax, free for the first year

Tax is weird!

the_frozen_one

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That's because all that comes out of the exhaust pipe is fresh air and cupcakes

STAFFY OWNER

Oh well, now you've explained it i can see how it's a fair system. By the way, there's no tears coming from me, i just love filling the governments tax coffers.

Apparently the government makes £45 billion out of motorists every year and just puts £9 billion back in to services that motorists use ie roads but i'm not bitter about it, as i said it's totally fair.

matthewpickup

i think everyone one is pissed off with it but they would probaly say its an emmisons tax not road tax , mines has went up £5 every year and the roads just get worse and worse ... pot holes on moterways whats that all about ?

botters

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it cant be an emmisions tax, most of the modern bmw diesels are almost impossible to get an emmision reading from when doing an mot as they are that low but are in the high tax bracket, wheras the little peugeots that are £30 a year to tax often struggle to pass an emmisions test

matthewpickup

lol madness , i think its just a way of trying to force older cars off the road and also great way to make money as nowadays you really need to have a car .
as for the readings surly if everything is working correctly it should pass ? regardless of what it is and what band

botters

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thats the problem tho most of them dont work correctley or should i say are not used correctley, 99% of diesel particulate filter faults are caused by doing short journeys and never prodding the go pedal enough which causes blockages and high emmision readings!

matthewpickup

yea they get all carboned up ... ass kicking
they can call it what they like its just to make money
car owner = piggy bank on wheels

studabear

since diesel smoke limit lowered to 1.5% for the post july 2008 I've had a good percentage of fails, usually small engined diesels that never get a good arse kicking.

S1

My RS500 is over 400 to tax.

H15 FSC

my X5 is £460 a year !!

botters

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i presume you mean focus rs500 because if its a sierra rs500 then you are being raped

SapphyMike

MY MG ZT CDTi is £170 a year to tax. My Vecta 3.2 is £270 a year to tax.

Glenn_

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Focus RS500??

RichieST

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I wouldn't mind so much if the money was actually spent on improving the roads. There is a main road near me between 2 towns, it is absolutely riddled with pot holes, the edge of the road is all broken away and it is uneven to fook. They put signs up recently saying work commences here soon. Great I thought, they are resurfacing it.

But no, all they are doing is making the bus stop bigger and putting an obstacle, sorry I mean island, in the middle of the road. Cunts.

RichieST

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Look at the CO2 on the log book, it is about 2 grammes under the £400 tax band, so I think we got away with that one

Fil

yep found that out the hard way, had to bypass my dpf, as rarely do long journeys and if I did pretty much got stuck in traffic!

saph4be

i taxed the car and van friday
van =220 for year
car = 460 for year
and had the joy off insurance and mot for the van last week too!

on a plus note i reported a neighbour for no car tax and dvla came and clamped him so that cheered me up!

Mister G

They should just do away with road tax and put a few extra pennies per litre on fuel. Then you only pay for what you use, anybody foreign also then pays tax... Would also work the best for second car owners and people with less Eco cars pay more tax as they use more fuel.... You also wouldn't have any untaxed cars and you spread the cost.

martysmartie

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Correct, it will be a FRS 500.

OP, that will be a very early S-type, 1999 or 2000 example. March 2001 the new tax rules came into force, where duty is decided upon emission output rather than displacement.

On the other side, pre 1973 is tax exempt .

Martin

matthewpickup

it really comes down to if you have the money to buy it you will have the money to use it

caprizetec170

Stop complaining my 1.4 ford focus costs 360 euro for the year, last time i taxed my 2.8i cost something like 640 for 6 months and least ye get good roads

JamesH

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I just taxed my bike for 6 months, £30.25

the_frozen_one

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Least you actually taxed yours, top man

SapphyMike

Really?

Try driving on the M18 or in Hull, Leeds or Sheffield

RWD_cossie_wil

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Well arn't you the perfect little Hitler

kevin lancelott

And me.

kevin lancelott

Very true.If you can afford to buy the car you can afford to run it.

saph4be

not really nothing much bothers me at all but people not taxing a car and using it daily really fucks me off when i pay that much, plus if he not tax it i doubt its insured so what happens when he comes down my street and hits my car? exactly i get fucked!

now if it was just sat outside his house not being used that dont bother me!

Psycho Warren

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Well i guess at least in the UK we can consider our selves lucky that we didnt vote in a green party.

What the fuck made you guys vote in those looneys?? its totally fucked your country up!
to be fair i agree with saph4be. I hate paying car tax but at the end of the day if you want the privilege of driving a car then you have to pay.

If you cant afford road tax or refuse then tough shit you dont have a right to drive IMO.

Harsh but its the reality of the world we live in.

And as he says, if they arent paying road tax, why bother with insurance or MoT? If your the kind of poor person who is in that situation, youre going to loose your car if pulled over anyway and chances are youre not going to pay the fine so why waste your cash on insurance and other things like mot??

Lets not forget it really wouldnt surprise me if theres a crash that the insurers do everything to avoid paying meaning the innocent victim gets doubly screwed.

You hear quite a lot of statistics from the police about poorer/rough/scummy estates having something daft like a 40% rate of illegal cars in them, yet the police refuse to act as targetting one estate would be seen as unacceptably infringing on a community.

Bollocks i say. How is stopping crime an attack on a community?? If most the community are criminal scum then quite frankly i couldnt give a shit about thier "rights" to "peaceful enjoyment" or whatever.

DVLA and others already send ANPR vans around most communities on a regular basis, so they already have the mechanisms in place to detect the illegally kept cars. Just send a small fleet of car transporters to each area once every few months and take all the illegal cars. The message would soon get through to people that you drive legally or not at all.

Magnum PI

Car Tax (Vehicle Excise Duty) should be scrapped, its neither fair or representative.

IMHO, all motoring taxes should be loaded onto the cost of fuel, then the more you drive and consume fuel, the more tax you will pay as you will have used the roads more.

VED being linked to emissions is bollocks!

So you may have 'say' a car enthusiast who owns a Ferrari and uses it for less than 1000 miles per year at shows will pay an enormous amount of VED just to have it sat in a garage for 99% of the year (not polluting is it with the engine off)

Yet on the other hand, a car with a low Co2 rating used every day by someone doing 1000's of miles per year commuting would have produced more Co2 pollution that the enthusiast owned Ferrari in my previous paragraph, but the owner of the 'low co2 rated car would pay less VED/Road Tax.

Load it onto fuel, scrap road tax & that would be fairer......the more you drive, the more you pay

currently, VED is an arbitary tax, you pay the VED rate whether you do 1 mile or 100,000 miles per year. thats why its neither fair or representative

RWD_cossie_wil

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I don't disagree, but it is the polices job & DVLA to sort it out, not your next door neighbours.

How would you feel if every little infringement got reported to the authorities? Just in your example, you have a fair few items that the police would be less than impressed to find?

Personally I think it's a bit sneaky/cowardly to snitch like that, if you really have a problem with someones car not being taxed, go and tell them.

vaughant

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Wrong there, a 1.1 fiesta would be £120 odd a year to tax as below 1.5 litre.

Plus its after 2006 you get ass raped with huge emissions tax.

saph4be

he fully aware i reported him i told him other day i would if he carried on driving it, maybe i should off left it and if he ever hits my car and is uninsured i sure you would pay my repair bill for me?

i dnt go round snitching on people for silly things but when it could potentially cost me, fuck em he had enough warnings to stop using the car!