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Old 11-03-2005, 04:39 PM
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put a brand new thermostat in car and pectel monitor shows temps of 93 but water still not flowing through rad


also whats the best way to bleed system on 4wd?????
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put a brand new thermostat in car and pectel monitor shows temps of 93 but water still not flowing through rad
also whats the best way to bleed system on 4wd?????
Spiky IIRC the ECU (and therefore Pectel monitor) gets the temp reading from the HEAD........So that 93° C reading is about right

Example: My secs monitor gives me a reading of 91-92° C while the stat is still closed.
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what temp should the thermostat open then????
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Edited above.......

My stat opens when the temp at the head (SECS reading) is 91-92° C.

..........i.e. if I feel the hose to the left of the trermostat and then the moment it get warm (flow) I then look at the SECS monitor ...I see 92-93° C
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ok cheers doug,

just found a post where it says how to bleed, so will go give it a try
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Spiky,

Firstly, SLOW fill the cooling system with heater controls on max heat setting and with the thetmostat bleed bolt removed (the bolt on top of stat housing), as you start to see water coming out of the bolt hole, put the bolt back in. Then fill the header tank to the correct level (minimum line)....now, with the header tank cap OFF, run the engine up to temp at tick-over.....monitor water level and top up as required while the engine is running. Only replace the cap when the temp reading is showing "normal"
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Originally Posted by Doug Stirling
Spiky,

Firstly, SLOW fill the cooling system with heater controls on max heat setting and with the thetmostat bleed bolt removed (the bolt on top of stat housing), as you start to see water coming out of the bolt hole, put the bolt back in. Then fill the header tank to the correct level (minimum line)....now, with the header tank cap OFF, run the engine up to temp at tick-over.....monitor water level and top up as required while the engine is running. Only replace the cap when the temp reading is showing "normal"

no heaters in mine

whats NORMAL temp??? as i have pectel monitor and a VDO temp gauge

85ish???
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Yes, soon after the thermostat opens the engine is getting close to normal temp.
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surely it can't be much above 93 then???

i'll start it up again tomorrow then, and at 93 i'll see if the left hand pipe gets warm

at what temp should i shut it down IF there is a problem???, as i did see 96, but i was on the move and have no idea if the t/stat was open.
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Originally Posted by Spiky
at what temp should i shut it down IF there is a problem???
Well, if stationary/parked your fans should kick in at FULL speed at about 97-98°C and bring the temps back down to 93°C within 30 seconds or so.........

I would say that if the fans dont kick in at 98°C then shut engine down.
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All the above is relative to an ES Cos road car...........I dont know if a comp/rally car like yours would be the same.....best to ask Markk

Also, dont forget to put in good quality ANTI-FREEZE (min 25%) to protect the head/stop the block cracking/core plugs popping out in icey nights
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it should be

as i have std rad fans and std thermostat

my fans are manually wired up

ok, so if i see more than 98 degrees i'll shut it down


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thanks for this, means a lot passenger ride with your name on is booked
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Just a minor thing i was told and have tried....

The rad system will bleed better if the front end of the car is raised 3 or 4 inches
to allow the air to move forward through the head towards through the bleed point
on the thermostat housing.
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check the pipes that used to feed the heater matrix, these are VERY CRUCIAL on there hight in relation to the header tank , you must try and keep all the hoses as far below the header tanks level as posibble other wise you will create an air lock in thehighest hose and thus prevent circulation

i used to have a hose , the one that runs round the back of the head , quite high in fact it went over the top of the rocker cover because my engine is further back than a std unit and in how weather this would basically steam up inside because there was no flow , happened to me at croft last year hence the water spueing out of my bonnet vent , i have now fitted a round header tank nr teh battery and the heater hose runs around the front of the engine not over the top, i still have a heater and WOULD not be without one , how do you clear your screen when it rains ?
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my header tank is where the battery was too

the reason the heater isn'y connected is that it is a non std ford item and it leaks, it was connected but as it leaked i bypassed it.

just need to find a heater that will fit for now.

as for clearing the windscreen, it has a heated window, i know this isn't suffiecent, but as the car is only now being put on the road, i just need to sort the niggly problems
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