leedsrhinos126

I know what ur all gonna say but this flamer kit is purely to see what sort of flame my car can make. (not for road use) im gonna try get into car shows this summer and have a go with it there.

I had a go at making a flamer kit today but it didn't work, i had just a coil, lead, s.plug, toggle switch and obviously didn't work dunno what i was thinking also melted a wire from the battery to the switch.

Im after a little list of how to do it properly, wiring and what parts to use if someone could take the time to do so.


I saw this a bit ago so now i want a flamer kit and a 2.9 BOA for my Sierra in the future.

liam-rst

iTrader: (1)

Just dont lol

leedsrhinos126

I've got the idea in my head now so it's got to happen
Not a chav with a chavvy sierra i promise

liam-rst

iTrader: (1)

No but purely IMO you will be adding something chavvy but hey its your motor mate, I dont know what else you should need tbh it should work, you may need a higher ampage cable

leedsrhinos126

Well the propper kits come with a relay and a control box but surely it should be easier and cheaper to make one.

BigChuck

how did you wire it?

battery- switch - coil?

leedsrhinos126

Battery to switch +
switch - ground
switch + coil +

coil - ground

didn't work and melted a wire when trying?

Karlos G

iTrader: (4)

lol
But if you really must then I would use a momentary switch on the negative to the coil (Ignition live to coil, spark plug earthed out through exhaust).

leedsrhinos126

seperate coil by the way mounted in the boot. wiring is sooo confusing to me it's unreal

BigChuck

no wonder it melted.

run a heavier wire to a relay at the coil, and use a switch to trigger the relay giving the coil power.

how does your coil work? will it spark when powered up, or do you need a trigger for it? thats probably what the control box in the kit does.

leedsrhinos126

I just used a 3 spade connecter toggle switch and the coil is from my mk2 fiesta. no spark when first wired up

SapphyMike

NO NO NO NO LOL

Is this typical of Whino's fan's?

leedsrhinos126

eh? what

SapphyMike

I assumed wrongly or rightly given your forum name you may be a Leeds Rhino's supporter.

leedsrhinos126

Ahhh oh yes sir absolutely

SapphyMike

hence my comment lol.

botters

iTrader: (2)

dont forget to run the return pipe from your fuel rail direct to your tailpipe or it wont flame

William MK2 Cosworth

If you use a standard coil, wouldn't it spark only when you turn the switch on and off rapidly? Like the ignition trigger in old distributors...

Battery+ to coil +
Battery - through a rapid trigger to coil -

If its constantly on, that's why it melted the wire

BigChuck

that can only go well

Mr.T

just a fuel line direct to your tailpipe with a small gas burner?

JFB Tech

The couil will only fire when you make and break the primary voltage to it. The controllers have a timing circuit to rapidly switch the coil voltage. Without this, the coil would be permanently live when you apply power, hence no spark and a burnt out feed wire. A proper flamer kit with control box will only ever cause a flame if you have unburned fuel and oxygen in the exhaust, this is not very likely unless you do something to the fuelling system as well.

fsteward

5lts of fuel and a box of matches will do the trick your be sure to catch a few eyes aswell

William MK2 Cosworth

I have the more expensive option installed...

Launch control for the win!!!

CrOwSoN15

Really? Weren't you the one asking about Lexus lights for a Sierra?

studabear

Guaranteed to end in tears.

thebronze

I see a dodgey insurance claim in Your future

leedsrhinos126

Fuck no

neil73

I think I have a control box that you need somewhere, removed it from my old RS turbo, might take a while for me to find it but your welcome to it if you want it

leedsrhinos126

Thats cool mate just let me know when u can an we'll sort paypal stuff out.
Cheers

neil73

If I can find it mate just sort postage

Mk4 Lew

iTrader: (1)

Iz u gonna put neons unda ur saph blud?

SMILER258

Please just buy one in a kit if you're gonna do it at all. We don't wanna hear on the news that a local car set alight, and spat flames out, torching the neighbours cat etc

Mk4 Lew

iTrader: (1)

Torching a neighbours cat would be so funny though!

leedsrhinos126

Tut tut
Don't be daft

Mk4 Lew

iTrader: (1)

all I can say Is dont ruin the car pal, it looks lovely as it is

leedsrhinos126

It wont be ruined believe me. It'll look the same apart from a descretly placed spark plug and a nicely positioned toggle switch.

Karlos G

iTrader: (4)

If you do as I said above it will work fine, this is how the ECU runs the coil (or coil pack) in most engine's.... Negative trigger, ignition live.

mark r

i must admit, once i wanted a flamer kit and yes i adjusted the fuel reg so much the car over fueled so much that the exhaust was full of fuel and i tried the flamer and fuck there was a 20 foot flame out the exhaust and it never burtnt out,burnt bumper, spoiler, the paint on boot lid and me trainers sticking them in the exhaust to put fire out!!

H15 FSC

fpmsl
learn from this man

Eigdoog

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FLAMER-KIT...item4ac014f0e5

Everything you need! But some car already have little flames out the back, would this still work?