matthewpickup

can anyone tell me what front callipers are on the standard escort cosworth ? as i found out the other day that they are diffrent to the 4x4 sierra cosworth

xr2wishy

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i didn't think there were any noticeable differences. i used escos calipers and sierra discs and pads on my xr2, all worked as they should have done.
what is the problem you've found?

matthewpickup

hi the problem i found was the calliper mounts are diffrent the escort hub seems like you could fit a bigger calliper as when i tryed to put my sierra calliper on there was about a 10mm gap between the calliper and hub mount.
and when i took it back off i conpared them and to my sillyness you can see the diffrence .

so thats why i was wondering what size the callipers are on the escort 4 pots?

grcossie

It`s only 2wd Cosworth, who use 4 pots oe
4x4 Sierra and Escort use 1 pots oe

dojj

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they are the same caliper, and the same bracket, so you have probably got a different braket on there as the calipers were the same across a load of diferent cars but the brackets are specific to the 4wd cos models be they sierra or escort

caprizetec170

Are the calipers not the same and disc just a different offset ???

matthewpickup

well all i know is the one i got told was a escort one is diffrent from the sierra one but maybe the guy i got it off did not know what it was maybe a xr4i one ? i have it sorted now but always intresting to know the diffrences as i thought they were the same . but a breaker i was talking to also said the escort was diffrent from the 4x4 sierra cosworth hub

matthewpickup

the bit that is diffrent is the calliper mounts on the hub its self not the calliper

Glenn_

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I thought they were the same as a saff cossie.

matthewpickup

me too thats why i bought it

The Youth.

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the hub, hub carrier, brake caliper, brake caliper bracket, discs and pads are all the same on the sierra cosworth 4x4 and the escort cosworth

basicly when you take the wheels off everything you see except the anti roll bar (which is 1 mm thicker) is the same on both models

steve

dojj

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if it's the same size i would say it was from either a mk2 mondeo or a 24v granada

the lugs on the 4wd cos models are very prominent

jamie's

as above, the 4x4 saph and escos use the same calipers and hubs etc
is it poss that whoever sold you the hub is wrong about what it is(by accident or not)

matthewpickup

well i think this is what happend as the guy said it was his spare for his escort but the car was fixed before it arrived , more like tryed to fit did not fit .... punt it lol never mind next time i wont go on a strangers word lol

matthewpickup

better than that it was on ebay listed as escort/sierra 4x4 cosworth hub lol but i thought it would be a great idea to buy it out with as it was local and i just wanted it fixed

Glenn_

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Its not an XR4x4 hub cause im sure they are different.

dojj

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mate, don't get me started on which hub it could be as there were 3 different types

the easiest way to check is to have the 3 different types of brake discs that match those hubs and measure as one is 8mm different offset on the brake lugs (cosworth) one is 4mm different on the offset (xr range for the v6) and 1.4mm (i think it may be 1.6mm for the later dohc 4wd cars, but still 4mm for the earlier dohc 4wd cars)

proper proper head fuck when it comes to figuring out what's what so go armed with a caliper that is correct and a disc which is correct and bolt them up to make absolutely sure

if you are after some 4wd cossie hubs i'm sure i've got some floating about in the garage, will need a set of bearings though

and, now i come to think of it, i've got some xr ones as well so i may be able to get some pics up to show the differences