Be afraid, it CAN happen to YOU!!!!
10-03-2005, 10:27 AM
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Be afraid, it CAN happen to YOU!!!!
Got home last night after being away for a few days working at a trade show. Logged on to my online banking to pay a few bills etc to find that on Monday, someone hacked into my account set up a transfer and basically transfered EVERYTHING out of my account!!!!!!!! 
And I aint talking 20 quid here either, I am talking thousands and thousands of pounds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I use the Halifax, and the guy who hacked me transfered the money into another Halifax account. Was on the phone to them last night and then onto there fraud department this morning. The girl let slip that it is actually quite a common occourance. They said I will get my money back with no problem, but it may take up to 21 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The account that the money went to had already been frozen yesterday morning, so I am guessing that I aint the only one who he had a go at.
I aint balming the halifax, as I guess all the banks are suseptable to similiar attacks, but just keep your eye on your details and regulally change your log in info.
Sean "Properly Skint" Bicknell
And I aint talking 20 quid here either, I am talking thousands and thousands of pounds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I use the Halifax, and the guy who hacked me transfered the money into another Halifax account. Was on the phone to them last night and then onto there fraud department this morning. The girl let slip that it is actually quite a common occourance. They said I will get my money back with no problem, but it may take up to 21 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The account that the money went to had already been frozen yesterday morning, so I am guessing that I aint the only one who he had a go at.
I aint balming the halifax, as I guess all the banks are suseptable to similiar attacks, but just keep your eye on your details and regulally change your log in info.
Sean "Properly Skint" Bicknell
10-03-2005, 10:31 AM
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I'd literally shit myself if that happened to me, I'm online with Natwest and it must be a huge problem because I've had multiple e-mails asking for me to log in etc...any idea how he managed to get hold of your details? 
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I would have shat it but saying that I seem to get a lot of Halifax "please log in here" emails and I don't even bank with them
hope you get it sorted soon.
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10-03-2005, 10:38 AM
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God knows how my details got out. I use one laptop, I am the only person that uses it, I have all the spyware, virus stuff on it and I have never answered one of those bogus e-mails, so god knows.
I understand how big an issue this is as my software company sells security and encryption software to banks, for specific types of main frame hardware (Halifax DON'T use our stuff!!!) and it is a massive problem for them.
The issue is never the back end main frames though, they are always fronted by a load of UNIX or Windows boxes and they are ALWAYS the weak link!!!
I understand how big an issue this is as my software company sells security and encryption software to banks, for specific types of main frame hardware (Halifax DON'T use our stuff!!!) and it is a massive problem for them.
The issue is never the back end main frames though, they are always fronted by a load of UNIX or Windows boxes and they are ALWAYS the weak link!!!
10-03-2005, 10:43 AM
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yeah but sean EVERYTHING can be hacked. altho the most likely cause is someone that works for them and knows the system did it. SO much more common for it to be internal.
bit like credit card fraud... its so much more common for dodgy shop assistants etc to do it than it than for sum1 to steal your creditcard and spunk money on it! thats the main motivation behind chip n pin... stopping fraud within the merchants! not the punters!
bit like credit card fraud... its so much more common for dodgy shop assistants etc to do it than it than for sum1 to steal your creditcard and spunk money on it! thats the main motivation behind chip n pin... stopping fraud within the merchants! not the punters!
10-03-2005, 10:46 AM
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Had this done to me....it's the worst feeling in the world but I did (eventually) get all my money back......
What software company do you work for sean cause I sell IT security but work for a distributor........
I always tell my bank to stick their online banking now cause I know they don't protect the users like they should from.....
What software company do you work for sean cause I sell IT security but work for a distributor........
I always tell my bank to stick their online banking now cause I know they don't protect the users like they should from.....
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We had a presentation from a guy who runs the IT infrastructure for large investesment banks and such last week, he was saying pretty much ALL the fraud problems these days are from people on the inside!
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Re: Be afraid, it CAN happen to YOU!!!!
Originally Posted by Sean Bicknell
Got home last night after being away for a few days working at a trade show. Logged on to my online banking to pay a few bills etc to find that on Monday, someone hacked into my account set up a transfer and basically transfered EVERYTHING out of my account!!!!!!!!
And I aint talking 20 quid here either, I am talking thousands and thousands of pounds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I use the Halifax, and the guy who hacked me transfered the money into another Halifax account. Was on the phone to them last night and then onto there fraud department this morning. The girl let slip that it is actually quite a common occourance. They said I will get my money back with no problem, but it may take up to 21 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The account that the money went to had already been frozen yesterday morning, so I am guessing that I aint the only one who he had a go at.
I aint balming the halifax, as I guess all the banks are suseptable to similiar attacks, but just keep your eye on your details and regulally change your log in info.
Sean "Properly Skint" Bicknell
And I aint talking 20 quid here either, I am talking thousands and thousands of pounds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I use the Halifax, and the guy who hacked me transfered the money into another Halifax account. Was on the phone to them last night and then onto there fraud department this morning. The girl let slip that it is actually quite a common occourance. They said I will get my money back with no problem, but it may take up to 21 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The account that the money went to had already been frozen yesterday morning, so I am guessing that I aint the only one who he had a go at.
I aint balming the halifax, as I guess all the banks are suseptable to similiar attacks, but just keep your eye on your details and regulally change your log in info.
Sean "Properly Skint" Bicknell
In holland its impossible to hack a bankaccount because of something called a random reader... In this random reader we place our bankcard.. type the pincode and the random reader answers with a 8 digit access code only valid for 55 seconds..
there is noway this can be hacked
10-03-2005, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Sean Bicknell
The issue is never the back end main frames though, they are always fronted by a load of UNIX or Windows boxes and they are ALWAYS the weak link!!!
10-03-2005, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Renton
Originally Posted by Sean Bicknell
The issue is never the back end main frames though, they are always fronted by a load of UNIX or Windows boxes and they are ALWAYS the weak link!!!
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10-03-2005, 12:34 PM
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Re: Be afraid, it CAN happen to YOU!!!!
Originally Posted by turbinator
there is noway this can be hacked
I agree it makes it alot lot harder, but if man can make it man can break it.
Nothing is 100% secure if someone wants to get round it they will eventually
10-03-2005, 02:03 PM
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Fookin Hell mate, glad to hear that your gonna get your money back if nothing else!
I personally don't use online banking facilities and never will, prefer to see in 'real' terms where i'm spending my money, but i'm still worried about card transactions and things!
Everyone check your monthly accounts too! Keep an eye out for these fuckers!
I personally don't use online banking facilities and never will, prefer to see in 'real' terms where i'm spending my money, but i'm still worried about card transactions and things!
Everyone check your monthly accounts too! Keep an eye out for these fuckers!
10-03-2005, 02:19 PM
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fookin hell mate i dont have any details of mine on the net for those reasons my net its in a mates name payed by numerous mates paypal accounts and anything i buy is also payed for with mates details i dont trust the net 1 bit to have any of my details on there anyway im glad you got it sorted before it was to late just goes to show though dont it 
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you know Allister Mcgowan (the impressions bloke) is doing the ads about ID theft for Capital One credit cards at the mo on TV? well his ID got stolen this week 
its in the papers today! 
its in the papers today!
10-03-2005, 05:49 PM
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blimey that's pretty scarey!Sometimes I go for a few months before checking my bank account (like the time I was paying Gas and Electric on my old house for 8 months after I sold it before I realised they'd been taking money
), think maybe I should keep a closer eye on it.
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Re: Be afraid, it CAN happen to YOU!!!!
Originally Posted by turbinator
Originally Posted by Sean Bicknell
Got home last night after being away for a few days working at a trade show. Logged on to my online banking to pay a few bills etc to find that on Monday, someone hacked into my account set up a transfer and basically transfered EVERYTHING out of my account!!!!!!!!
And I aint talking 20 quid here either, I am talking thousands and thousands of pounds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I use the Halifax, and the guy who hacked me transfered the money into another Halifax account. Was on the phone to them last night and then onto there fraud department this morning. The girl let slip that it is actually quite a common occourance. They said I will get my money back with no problem, but it may take up to 21 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The account that the money went to had already been frozen yesterday morning, so I am guessing that I aint the only one who he had a go at.
I aint balming the halifax, as I guess all the banks are suseptable to similiar attacks, but just keep your eye on your details and regulally change your log in info.
Sean "Properly Skint" Bicknell
And I aint talking 20 quid here either, I am talking thousands and thousands of pounds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I use the Halifax, and the guy who hacked me transfered the money into another Halifax account. Was on the phone to them last night and then onto there fraud department this morning. The girl let slip that it is actually quite a common occourance. They said I will get my money back with no problem, but it may take up to 21 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The account that the money went to had already been frozen yesterday morning, so I am guessing that I aint the only one who he had a go at.
I aint balming the halifax, as I guess all the banks are suseptable to similiar attacks, but just keep your eye on your details and regulally change your log in info.
Sean "Properly Skint" Bicknell
In holland its impossible to hack a bankaccount because of something called a random reader... In this random reader we place our bankcard.. type the pincode and the random reader answers with a 8 digit access code only valid for 55 seconds..
there is noway this can be hacked
10-03-2005, 06:11 PM
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Ranj, did you mean to say cant be hacked? I've never know RSA to have been hacked yet but would be interested to know if it has cause I know they had a cash prize up for anyone that could.......
