pani_k

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Honda will be in VTEC all the way to the finish to no point saying needs to be in VTEC, it will be!

mexicossie

You guys keep watching the Honda's bhp but torque is what pulls a car & they have none, the Fiesta matches his bhp with torque. my advice is lower your tyre pressures & practice getting the car off the line, as long as you can move with him the torque will pull you up top.

Beetlejuice

Common misconception, the K20 is very torquey for what it is

CrOwSoN15

Incorrect, the K20 in a DC5 makes a very healthy amount of torque.
Early B series weren't so great, which is what gave VTECs a name for having a lack of torque.
Having been in a friend's DC5, with just breathing mods, it'd see off much more powerful cars.
Sorry bud, but I think you'll get dusted. I hope not, but yeah

vroomtshh

You reckon? I can count on 1 hand the amount of 1.6 N/A engines that produced more torque than the original 1990 B16

gjh

Basically, visit you tuner again, and get him to squeeze more out of it.

pani_k

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That spec definitely has more scope to get into mid 200s but your injectors are going to be your limiting factor at the minute

Oranoco

iirc the stock DC5 makes about 150lb/ft of torque, I would say that was pretty healthy for a normally aspirated motor

Paul_RS

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As much as I'm not a fan of Hondas I'd say the DC5 will dust the RS turbo. They are a serious car and everything abuot it is better than the Fiesta

TOOTALL

Now. I think I know an EP from a DC, but the Civic's with the gearstick coming out of the dash(EP are they not?) are not great straight liners. I'm guessing it is the nice looking later Type R ye are on about. Anyway. I have been in and driven a couple of car's that are of very similar power to the EP and beat them. E36 328i, and a stripped out banger of a Scorpio 24v which once moving pulled away nicely. The later ones look great and no doubt are faster with 200+ bhp as ye say, and a good diff. I'd still however expect a 180 bhp FRST to be a very close match, or win with a good driver.

martysmartie

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Yes EP3 is the shape before the current, and is better looking as well and no they are slower and have the gear lever within the dash, they both have the same power (ok yes the newer CTR has 1 HP more ) but then it has inferior suspension and is heavier.

Martin

TOOTALL

Ah, feck. Now I get it(I've been drinking). EP3 is Civic with the dash shift. DC5 is the later Integra (the one I like and the one ye are on about). DC2 is the old school hardcore one. EP3'S are the common one's I see lowered with loud exhausts and driver's who lean WAY back in their seat. Hence why I beat them. They couldn't feckin see where they were going.

martysmartie

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Thats it, of which the Type R model have become something of a chav mobil now sadly, although not for me, they are a decent car!

Martin

TOOTALL

I'd love to have a drive of, or even own a DC2 or DC5. They seem to be more focused on performance. I'll be totally honest. I wouldn't want to meet even the EP3 on a track. I'm well aware they can handle the twisty stuff. I'll always take one on on a dual carriage or a motorway though.

Adam.

Blimey what a debate, think i will have a pop just for the fun! heres my graph from when it was rolling roaded last year (sorry its sideways)

xr2wishy

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there you go though, your graph clearly shows you have more than the peak of the intergra for just over 2500rpm, i'd almost bet the curve from the integra has 150lb/ft for a hell of a lot longer.
i'd love the ford to beat it, just realistically i know how fast those things are, on a launch they'd muller my xr2 zt, n/a is just so much more progressive and therefore better traction instead of the wheelspin happy turbo setups.

Adam.

Agreed mate, while your here would you say my graph tailing off looks like valve springs? as mine are standard....the RR operator said i needed to change them and fit a fuel pressure regulater to get more, but i was on a non LSD box and my clutch was slipping on the day

booner999

But if you drive the Fiesta right,ie dont spin the wheels, you should see it off?

The fiesta is going to spin in 1st and maybe 2nd if your really giving it all its got, but slightly holding back until it grips and giving it all it has for me says win.

I am off to Youtube to see what these DC5's can do.

bigz2345

if you was local id destroy him for you

luke19790_3

Why don't you meet them @ the pod?

bigz2345

why would i want to waste 50quid fuel ? and a day ? for what ? to beat some dickhead in a honda .. when i could beat the same dickhead 2 minutes away and waste just 5minutes and a fraction of the fuel .. not very clever

TOOTALL

Yeah boi !
Brapp Brapp.

luke19790_3

What's up mo, mum won't let you drive that far

bigz2345

haha very funny twat

luke19790_3

Mo the lambo killer lol

JoshXR2

Adam have you had this race yet? As Shakespeare county raceway is a lot closer too us than pod is. Also haven't been drag racing for ages and need some people too race as my mates mustang is bust

Adam.

Not yet mate, wheres shakespeare county raceway?, what powers your fez on now mate?

Oranoco

If it's tailing off about 5500rpm (can't see pics at work) I would say it was the standard inherent flaw to the ZVH and you should invest in having the head worked on to cure the problem. With regards to the fuel pressure regulator I would say it sounds like they want to sell you stuff. My brothers FRST was going for 300bhp and was on the stock FPR and I'm pretty sure my mates Zetec turbo Fiesta runs the standard FPR too.

Rogeyboy

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I think on the road the Fiesta, and presuming he can drive on the track the Integra...
But at the Pod i thought the Fiesta would just claim it, until ive researched Integra's doing low 14s and mid-high 13s.
So i don't know!

martysmartie

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Is that standard? If so that is very good, I think a M3 is about the same time wise.

Martin

pani_k

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E36 M3 Evo is mid 13s roughly.

Dennis_Wiseman

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Quick look on a Honda forum says 15 seconds on the nose for a stock DC5.

As a safety margin target a mid 14.

Inexperienced drivers on a quarter mile with a stock car never get blinding times the first handful of goes.

Neil.

I agree! I've run stock FRP on modded CVH's and on ZT to well over 300bhp, no drama.

Regarding the race, I think the chronic wheel spin from the FRST will leave you with to much of a gap to claw back. It'd be close but my gut says he will just pip you.

martysmartie

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That is the thing really, there is more to it then the power etc, for example, whilst a Cosworth has blistering acceleration, the 1/4 mile is not really that good in comparison, even in tuned cases, due to the terrible suspension, they can't put the power down efficiently.

Martin

QplateRST!

A genuine 330hp 2wd Cosworth with an optimum launch will run around a 12.7-12.8 1/4 mile That's sharp in my eyes

Rogeyboy

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The quicker times were modified cars...

If the fiesta is launched well and can put the power down well through 2nd n 3rd gear i think it might have a chance!

gjh

It'll be bloody close! Well worth filming.

Adam.

I see what everyone say TBH as 1st is pointless in my car, 2nd is okish if you go gently into the gear (if u know what i mean) 3rd is generally the longest most enjoyable gear the car, BUT it depends on the weather, if the road has abit of damp on it i can light it up in 2nd and 3rd without trying, and thats with a stage 1 LSD box and Toyo t1r tyres allround with koni suspension

Paul_RS

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They are quick, years ago i saw a DC5 actually beat an E46 m3 off the line and hold it off over a 1/4. M3 driver may have been crap though

Adam.

Definately depends on the driver.