Talk to me about Gripper diffs and Tremec gearbox for Cosworth
16-08-2012, 07:44 PM
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16-08-2012, 07:50 PM
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16-08-2012, 07:55 PM
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Have thought about it Andy, not sure if it could give a good degree of limited slip with nigh on 600 torques mate. Don't want to plant it coming out of the bottom bend at Brunters and be spinning just the inside tyre if you know what I mean....
16-08-2012, 08:56 PM
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Trying to get a 3.62 is almost impossible as they were only fitted in touringcars rally cars all had higher gearing and the casing was different internally so a 3.62 cw&p won't fit in it unless you machine it down but then it becomes weak and likely to fail !
16-08-2012, 08:58 PM
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16-08-2012, 09:25 PM
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You would have to talk to him mate and it would be direct fit as he would make it all in house! to fit your beam or mode your beam he would even be able to do the prop and sharfts there the best with that kind of work
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17-08-2012, 11:25 AM
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I'd keep the T5 and the std diff.
Its a road car with stage 3 power? no need for anything better!
Save your money and enjoy the car.
Keep the money for fixing stuff when it breaks!
Its a road car with stage 3 power? no need for anything better!
Save your money and enjoy the car.
Keep the money for fixing stuff when it breaks!
17-08-2012, 11:39 AM
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This man
Ronnie Amis' is still running a standard rebuilt T5 which handles fine, I love the ratio's of mine, no problems either. Cheaper to fix if it ever did die and they last long enough providing no stupid launches are done every minute. I'd just be looking more at the diff than the box.
17-08-2012, 12:21 PM
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if you replace the diff with a Gripper... you will still be using the std ford CWP anyway. So why bother changing for a road car.
I went to all the expense of changing to a gripper... I couldnt really tell the difference if I am honest! and guess what happened.... yep! the std ford CWP shat itself and broke on lap 1 of Donnington... bummer
Its the diff breaks then sort it. if not drive on and enjoy!
The T5 will handle the power yes. If it breaks worry about it then.
Cars are fun when driving them.... not costing you money on axle stands having expensive and potentially unneccessary parts fitted to them
The car will need work at some point.... its an old Cossie after all! a melted engine is gonna happen somehow no matter how careful you are with parts and stuff! better to have money in the bank ready for it.
If money isnt an option and you have ooooodles..... keep the Escos as it is.... and buy another car to enjoy as well. Something smaller and more fun perhaps?
17-08-2012, 06:00 PM
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Wait to see if it copes, then rebuild it. That red Escos that has the twin turbo V8 with the turbo's poking out the bonnet has a standard diff which copes well doing 9 sec. quarters
As mentioned above, mechanical sympathy helps. Hard launches kill anything, but rolling starts work better
As mentioned above, mechanical sympathy helps. Hard launches kill anything, but rolling starts work better
17-08-2012, 07:04 PM
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Wait to see if it copes, then rebuild it. That red Escos that has the twin turbo V8 with the turbo's poking out the bonnet has a standard diff which copes well doing 9 sec. quarters
As mentioned above, mechanical sympathy helps. Hard launches kill anything, but rolling starts work better
As mentioned above, mechanical sympathy helps. Hard launches kill anything, but rolling starts work better
17-08-2012, 09:47 PM
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Wait to see if it copes, then rebuild it. That red Escos that has the twin turbo V8 with the turbo's poking out the bonnet has a standard diff which copes well doing 9 sec. quarters
As mentioned above, mechanical sympathy helps. Hard launches kill anything, but rolling starts work better
As mentioned above, mechanical sympathy helps. Hard launches kill anything, but rolling starts work better
17-08-2012, 10:21 PM
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Wait to see if it copes, then rebuild it. That red Escos that has the twin turbo V8 with the turbo's poking out the bonnet has a standard diff which copes well doing 9 sec. quarters
As mentioned above, mechanical sympathy helps. Hard launches kill anything, but rolling starts work better
As mentioned above, mechanical sympathy helps. Hard launches kill anything, but rolling starts work better
them diffs are shit! anything over 350 lb ft of torque will ruin one
18-08-2012, 08:58 AM
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Ah my bad guys, I could have sworn someone said it was on a standard cossie rear setup. My bad, never looked at the thing up close
But as for the Cossie diff, they do last if you're careful with it. Plenty of big powered car run on them still.
But as for the Cossie diff, they do last if you're careful with it. Plenty of big powered car run on them still.
18-08-2012, 10:49 AM
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I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
ford 8.8 with an Ected diff, u can get the install kit from america, and with the Ected diff, its a normal lsd until u want it locked like a welded diff, at the flick of a switch its a locked diff for launch at the drag strip, u won't break it or an 8.8 with anything a cosworth can through at it,
this guy does the 8.8 instal kit http://www.davecompton.com/JimD.htm#Dash%20Cluster
and here is a complete 8.8 irs pumpkin
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-2004-Fo...06%26rk%3D1%26
and the Ected
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-EXPLORE...b8a067&vxp=mtr
this guy does the 8.8 instal kit http://www.davecompton.com/JimD.htm#Dash%20Cluster
and here is a complete 8.8 irs pumpkin
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-2004-Fo...06%26rk%3D1%26
and the Ected
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-EXPLORE...b8a067&vxp=mtr
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19-08-2012, 08:10 AM
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if you replace the diff with a Gripper... you will still be using the std ford CWP anyway. So why bother changing for a road car.
I went to all the expense of changing to a gripper... I couldnt really tell the difference if I am honest! and guess what happened.... yep! the std ford CWP shat itself and broke on lap 1 of Donnington... bummer
If money isnt an option and you have ooooodles..... keep the Escos as it is.... and buy another car to enjoy as well. Something smaller and more fun perhaps?
I went to all the expense of changing to a gripper... I couldnt really tell the difference if I am honest! and guess what happened.... yep! the std ford CWP shat itself and broke on lap 1 of Donnington... bummer
If money isnt an option and you have ooooodles..... keep the Escos as it is.... and buy another car to enjoy as well. Something smaller and more fun perhaps?
and from watching them It looks like you use the advantages of the gripper a lot did you drive the car with a standard diff and Did you prefer it like that?Cheers
Dan
03-09-2012, 11:05 AM
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Right guys, the time has come. The gearbox is getting stiff to go into 1st, everything else is fine, just this which is annoying.
Now do I rebuild this standard T5 unit and put back in?
If so, how much do we think this would cost?
I have been looking around for gearkits and gearbox's looking for a Tremec box but can only find new. Does anyone know of a second hand one going for sale?
I have also seen hints that this box might need some changes made, so things like the clutch changed to a hydrolic item, modifications to the bell housing etc etc... The box I seen on Tremec website was around Ł1200... I am guessing all I would have to do is fit it and put oil in and off we go? Not massively interested in spending Ł1200 then another Ł1000 is messing around changing other bits etc. I dont plan on keeping the car now unless the price of fuel drops massively (never going to happen) so not wanting to spend massive money making it bullet proof and never getting this money back on the sell of the car...
Can you guys post up links to the gearbox it would need as well please? Keep seeing T5 mustange box's but Tremecs website says up to 300 lbs of torque and I am sure mine is running more than that
Now do I rebuild this standard T5 unit and put back in?
If so, how much do we think this would cost?
I have been looking around for gearkits and gearbox's looking for a Tremec box but can only find new. Does anyone know of a second hand one going for sale?
I have also seen hints that this box might need some changes made, so things like the clutch changed to a hydrolic item, modifications to the bell housing etc etc... The box I seen on Tremec website was around Ł1200... I am guessing all I would have to do is fit it and put oil in and off we go? Not massively interested in spending Ł1200 then another Ł1000 is messing around changing other bits etc. I dont plan on keeping the car now unless the price of fuel drops massively (never going to happen) so not wanting to spend massive money making it bullet proof and never getting this money back on the sell of the car...
Can you guys post up links to the gearbox it would need as well please? Keep seeing T5 mustange box's but Tremecs website says up to 300 lbs of torque and I am sure mine is running more than that
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