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Old 28-07-2012, 05:11 PM
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just watched some old touring car footage, the richard longman car is qouted as having 300hp!!! is that realistic back in 86, if so what was the spec, has anyone ever looked it up on here?

id also like to know why the rst, cosworths and skylines had side exit exhaust pipes in touring car spec. they look cool but road cars with big power use a conventional ex setup.
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Originally Posted by mgtkr1
just watched some old touring car footage, the richard longman car is qouted as having 300hp!!! is that realistic back in 86, if so what was the spec, has anyone ever looked it up on here?

id also like to know why the rst, cosworths and skylines had side exit exhaust pipes in touring car spec. they look cool but road cars with big power use a conventional ex setup.

300bhp was easily done in them days

Side exit exhausts were used back in the day as noise restrictions didnt happen back then ,
Old 28-07-2012, 05:25 PM
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also if you have a side exit exhaust if someone taps you from behind it doesn't get damaged
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Originally Posted by frsjon
also if you have a side exit exhaust if someone taps you from behind it doesn't get damaged
so what if you get a slight side nudge ?

Lol
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Originally Posted by North Yorkshire RS Spares
so what if you get a slight side nudge ?

Lol
Then it'll move side to side? Haha
Old 28-07-2012, 06:58 PM
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Its all about Front exiting exhausts
Old 29-07-2012, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mgtkr1
id also like to know why the rst, cosworths and skylines had side exit exhaust pipes in touring car spec. they look cool but road cars with big power use a conventional ex setup.
No noise regs, lighter, and freer flowing with less effort.

Nothing different today in racing, providing you can make it quiet enough for regs.

Most road systems are rear exit as they're off the shelf items rather than custom jobs. And most dont dare to be different anyhow.

And to get decent ground clearance with a side exit most cars need the sills etc notched a little.
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I'll find out what it was running in the week, as I'll be seeing my engine builder and he worked for Longmans for years until they closed down. Have talked about Datapost with him before and he worked on it back then.
Anything in particular you want to know or just the power it was running?
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Was talking to Brett Sims today, one of the guys who built engines for Longmans and he said they used to run 300bhp for qualifying and to get the tyres up to temp. It had an adjustable boost control in the dash which they used to turn down to 250-275bhp for the races as it was more reliable. He remembers the Datapost cars well and thinks there's just 1 remaining original left now. Was also talking to Len, the guy that built the cars themselves.
Nice to stoke up a few old memories now and again. Any other info wanted please feel free to ask and I'll get an answer if possible.
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Chap in the south owns one of the datapost cars, also has the brooklyn car as well. Had them both restored to as original as possible, I believe Richard Longman assisted with some bits
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was intrested in the hp they had and more importantly how they managed it. in particular, engine management, turbo ect. would love to source some of the compomotive wheels thay ran. also considering a side exit exhaust as my scorpion is a tad rattly. not sure on the legality of side exit though, just in front of the drivers rear arch, rectangular in shape. the datapost car has to be one of the most iconic mk3's in the uk along with the brooklyn 16i.
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might interest you

http://www.seriesoneturbo.co.uk/show...light=datapost

some pics of the datapost car, the current owner found it in New Zealand a few years ago, went across and a few weeks later it arrived back home to UK
http://www.seriesoneturbo.co.uk/show...light=brooklyn

http://www.seriesoneturbo.co.uk/show...light=brooklyn

some footage from a few years back when I got my video camera put inside the Brooklyn car when it was driven in a session at Ford Fair by the original driver from the 80's Chris Hodgetts, overtaking 3dr cos x 3
http://www.seriesoneturbo.co.uk/show...light=brooklyn
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Originally Posted by mgtkr1
was intrested in the hp they had and more importantly how they managed it. in particular, engine management, turbo ect. would love to source some of the compomotive wheels thay ran. also considering a side exit exhaust as my scorpion is a tad rattly. not sure on the legality of side exit though, just in front of the drivers rear arch, rectangular in shape. the datapost car has to be one of the most iconic mk3's in the uk along with the brooklyn 16i.
Seems like hood idea to me
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thanks, great links. first time ive seen the dp car under the bonnet.
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Will have to join the s1 forum I think as I can't access the links :-(. Have had a good look around the datapost car at shows a few years ago - wish I had taken pics now.
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The datapost race car is owned by RSwoza on the RSOC
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yeh and craig davies owns the brooklyn 500
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had a good butchers around the 3dr a while back,
man i want them wheels
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Originally Posted by gus
had a good butchers around the 3dr a while back,
man i want them wheels

yeh the center locks are cool hehas 3 original sets to
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ooooo


whats the chances of him letting a set go? lol
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Originally Posted by gus
ooooo


whats the chances of him letting a set go? lol
about as much a me winning the lottery

we got one set on the car and got the other 2 set off martin johnson !I think you know there about as rare as m3 without a dick inside
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Originally Posted by Jay,
I think you know there about as rare as m3 without a dick inside

you make a very valid point boss.
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Originally Posted by Spax
The datapost race car is owned by RSwoza on the RSOC

he sold it a year ago, 44 lives with its little sister
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To look at them pics i have to be a member of the site lol.
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A friend of mine is also on the Series 1 forums is he has an ex Group A DTM S1. Was featured in Performance Ford a few years ago
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Originally Posted by hamerite
he sold it a year ago, 44 lives with its little sister
and cousin and distant relatives, its just one big happy family down there
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Im going to build a side exit!!! Sod the noise or my sill it just looks cool as fuck!!!!

Got a little ''how to prepare'' Ford Motorsport book thats got loads of the old 909 grp a part numbers in it shows lots of the parts used to get the extra power and reliability.......brilliant little find that was!! Gus has even got the Type AF 100 gearbox that was used in those cars havn't you

Rare as hens teeth
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Yes there are still some rare bits kicking around
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Originally Posted by It's Czech Mate
Yes there are still some rare bits kicking around
Its now my job to find them
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yeah i got the hewland box

i dont think many was used on circuit, mine came from a rallycross escort, had a 600bhp bdte lump bolted to it
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Nice boxes
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Originally Posted by gus
yeah i got the hewland box

i dont think many was used on circuit, mine came from a rallycross escort, had a 600bhp bdte lump bolted to it
Yes i noticed as thats about the only decent thing that came into google when i searched for it!! Whats it like ?
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dazc off here has a set of datapost magnesium wheels, dont think he will sell them tho
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Originally Posted by RS_Stevie
and cousin and distant relatives, its just one big happy family down there

sounds as if someone knows me...
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