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Old 07-04-2012, 10:14 PM
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It's never run since underside restore mate..

I will check cps then mate aswell
Old 07-04-2012, 10:27 PM
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Did you have the engine out for the resto?
Old 07-04-2012, 10:32 PM
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Hi mat iv had a similare problem turned out to be a a/c wire even though mine dont have aircon but ford used the same loom it burned out by the bulkhead on the engine bay side and that then burned out a ford alarm relay by the steering colum you dident by any chance mess around with the wiring by the turbo?
Old 07-04-2012, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul_RS
Did you have the engine out for the resto?
No mate

Originally Posted by Cosworth Lad
Hi mat iv had a similare problem turned out to be a a/c wire even though mine dont have aircon but ford used the same loom it burned out by the bulkhead on the engine bay side and that then burned out a ford alarm relay by the steering colum you dident by any chance mess around with the wiring by the turbo?
No mate not touched any wires near turbo.
Old 07-04-2012, 10:59 PM
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Mate have you got spark and fuel?
Old 07-04-2012, 11:05 PM
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When my fuel pump wouldn't prime it was because the ignition live pin in the 6-pin connector to the car loom had come loose and wasn't making a connection.

Hope you get it sorted soon
Old 07-04-2012, 11:06 PM
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did you check your dizzy timing?

as i said on your other thread i had a similar issue and that was one of my issues!
Old 07-04-2012, 11:49 PM
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Not good always sillys things like this that really piss you off when you cannot get to the bottem of them! But they always work out in the end I bet it will be something silly and be an easy fix
Old 08-04-2012, 12:22 AM
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Hope so James mate.
Old 08-04-2012, 01:18 AM
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Hope you get the problem solved today mat
Old 08-04-2012, 01:32 AM
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Cheers Steve mate.
Old 08-04-2012, 05:07 AM
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Who wired you engine loom in?
A 3dr doesn't have a permanent live to the loom. You need to make a new one from the battery.
You need to check you have a permanant live (battery)
Ignition live (black wire)
Pump live (black & red)
At your plug where the engine loom joins your car loom.
I would say it's a wiring fault not something broke.
Old 08-04-2012, 06:13 AM
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So Ford had the fuel lines off, broke the car then gave it you back to fix yourself? Surely not?!
Old 08-04-2012, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
So Ford had the fuel lines off, broke the car then gave it you back to fix yourself? Surely not?!


Not sure yet Stu... I'm going to check the fuel lines when I go in garage.

Really hope they haven't.
Old 08-04-2012, 08:43 AM
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Does the 3dr have the cut off switch in the boot?

Hope it gets sorted Matt.

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Old 08-04-2012, 08:51 AM
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no it doesn't Steve
have a look in your own 3 door boot
yours won't start because it has no engine in it hope that helps
Old 08-04-2012, 08:51 AM
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Very similar to issues I had a couple of years ago, done my head in as just cut out and couldn't start again. After a lot of time trying swapping parts etc it ended up being a combination of bad connections gap and timing on cps and phase sensor, I hadn't messed with anything before it stopped. I also rebushed the distributor as that had some play in it. I did all the usual checks and almost gave up. Sure it will be something simple it's just finding it, also check the original fuel pump feed wire it should show 12 volts while cranking.
Old 08-04-2012, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
no it doesn't Steve
have a look in your own 3 door boot
yours won't start because it has no engine in it hope that helps



^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
As I keep telling you I dont have a 3dr

Steve
Old 08-04-2012, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by daz1968
Very similar to issues I had a couple of years ago, done my head in as just cut out and couldn't start again. After a lot of time trying swapping parts etc it ended up being a combination of bad connections gap and timing on cps and phase sensor, I hadn't messed with anything before it stopped. I also rebushed the distributor as that had some play in it. I did all the usual checks and almost gave up. Sure it will be something simple it's just finding it, also check the original fuel pump feed wire it should show 12 volts while cranking.
it should show around battery voltage when cranking
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it's my age Steve
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Plonker lol

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Old 08-04-2012, 08:59 AM
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I have never seen your car and I haven't ever stalked you well not yet anyway
Old 08-04-2012, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
I have never seen your car and I haven't ever stalked you well not yet anyway
Well you now have a pic you can print off and stick on your bedroom wall lol

Steve
Old 08-04-2012, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve.
Well you now have a pic you can print off and stick on your bedroom wall lol

Steve
it is now set as wall paper on my pc
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
it is now set as wall paper on my pc
Feeling the love, now do your job and get Matts car sorted

Steve
Old 08-04-2012, 09:16 AM
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matt is very good at sorting people out but crap at sorting cosworths out
Old 08-04-2012, 09:21 AM
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Would it be worth checking that the crank sensor is
1: still plugged in and into the right socket
2: still got all 4 teeth on the pully and gapped right.


Are you running a cam sensor? If you are not then the phase sensor in the dizzy still needs to be plugged in for the fuel cycle ?

And if they have got the fuel lines round the wrong way then you will possibly hear the fuel pump strain like mad if you prime it more than once, I saw a car with this issue the other day after someone had been spannering... Be careful of pressure in fuel lines, when taking them off if it does turn out to be that though!
Old 08-04-2012, 09:47 AM
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Fuel lines are ok...is there anyway of checking CPS...?

The fucking thing as sprung another weap from the filter...
Old 08-04-2012, 09:53 AM
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are you 100% sure the high pressure fuel line is connected to the fuel rail
do you have a volt meter that reads ac
if so connect it to pis 3 and 4 of the ecu multiplug you'll have to slide the back off the plug
leave the ecu plugged in meter set on ac crank the engine you should see 3-600 mv
you have my number

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Old 08-04-2012, 10:00 AM
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it should run on just one ignition amp, mine did when.one of them died anyway. Obviously just 2 cylinders though.

I would check the gaps on the cps and phase and make sure all 4 lugs on the crank pulley are in tact.

Can you smell fuel from the exhaust after cranking for a bit?

Dizzy timing would also be one of my first checks, seems it only needs to be a tiny bit out to stop it from starting.

how long have you had the wasted spark setup? I assume it hasn't been run since you installed it?
Old 08-04-2012, 10:05 AM
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Right we have fuel we have live to the coil and the coil fires when ignition is armed but there is no spark when cranking any ideas.
What's CPs pin no so I can pin ecu out?
Old 08-04-2012, 10:08 AM
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3 and 4 as I posted above
phase is 5 and 23
Old 08-04-2012, 10:09 AM
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Fuel pump works fine... It's just like theres no trigger to the wasted spark
Old 08-04-2012, 10:14 AM
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Ac tony 5v?
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Tony we see 300mv cps and 150mv phase
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have you checked the polarity of the phase sensor is correct ie plugged in the dissy the right way round
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is the battery charged and the cranking speed high enough as both outputs are a little low
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It runs!!!!!!! Seems the loom could be faulty you have to plug it in n out fast to make it run odd
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Are we right in assuming that the car was running with all the current mods, went for its underside resto at Fords and hasn't run since??????

Steve
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
have you checked the polarity of the phase sensor is correct ie plugged in the dissy the right way round
Good shout! My mate done this and had very similar symptoms


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