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Old 07-04-2012, 10:15 AM
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Which if any bushes cause excessive rear toe and neg camber on cossie back ends
Wheels are tipped in on top and in front...
Old 07-04-2012, 10:28 AM
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standard issue with low ride heights on a std 18 degree rear beam hence the 6 degree beams
you at least will need to check the 4 semitrail arm bushes

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As said above car is to low by the sound of it . And the thing is when you boot it it will get a lot weres
Old 07-04-2012, 12:46 PM
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Std height lads, Ahmed road springs....
Old 07-04-2012, 01:00 PM
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Took a few pics to show








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have you checked the semi trail arm joints for wear
if they are worn you are best replace them with OE as they are spherical rose joint
do not replace them with any form of alleged uprated silicon type bush
You also have the alternative of running a 6 degree beam
some are single rose joint some are double rose joint
price is 1k
you can then adjust the cambers and toe
you got ant pics of it side on showing the ride hight
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Any good tony

Old 07-04-2012, 02:16 PM
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All I have on phone,out at the mo

Old 07-04-2012, 05:10 PM
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Side shot for ride height check tony



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Old 07-04-2012, 05:14 PM
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with the height you are running and from what I can see from your pics your rear wheels looked perfectly pissed up enough to be correct for a stock beam
just buy a proper 6 degree double adjustable beam they are 1k
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Is it much lower than std then...
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looks like you have your shopping in the boot
what's the et of the wheels
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No shopping..lol
Will Check et, not ideal width as well, only 7"
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Originally Posted by Rob Virgo
No shopping..lol
Will Check et, not ideal width as well, only 7"
a dead body then
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Hope u sort the suspension

Nice looking saffie
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have you actually had the geometry measured
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
with the height you are running and from what I can see from your pics your rear wheels looked perfectly pissed up enough to be correct for a stock beam
just buy a proper 6 degree double adjustable beam they are 1k
Genuine question here as I'm after doing my beam this year! Why would you need to adjust the toe in / out if the rear wheels are parallel with the fronts and negative camber is the problem you are trying to get rid of? Just trying to work out the benefits of a double jointed beam over one that's not
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being able to adjust the individual toe of each back wheel is advantageous as well as the camber angle
The std bushes are all goosed by now and are expensive
people prefer both inner and out to be adjustable
some people don't like the inner having to be slotted to make toe adjustments on other makes of beam and you have more accurate finite adjustment of toe with and adjustable rose joint
As we make our own beams we can actually make them any way you would like them

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The toe is what changes as the suspension travels, it goes over three degrees through the range of movement! Hence why Cossies are quite snappy. The camber means that the car runs on the inside two inches of tyre, hence Cossies eating the inside of rear tyres.

A 6 degree rear beam is a huge improvement to the handling & tyre wear!
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
being able to adjust the individual toe of each back wheel is advantageous as well as the camber angle
The std bushes are all goosed by now and are expensive
people prefer both inner and out to be adjustable
some people don't like the inner having to be slotted to make toe adjustments on other makes of beam
As we make our own beams we can actually make them any way you would like them
Cool thanks for the reply I guess it makes sense then as you can set it up exact when its on the tracking gauges
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Slotted is a cheap ass way of doing it IMHO, both of mine are rose jointed on all four points.
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we never slot the inner
for some applications and customers needs we have an eccentric calibrated bolt design for inner adjustment
the double rose joint set up just looks the bollox
we produce this beam for 1k the single type others make is alot dearer

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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
The toe is what changes as the suspension travels, it goes over three degrees through the range of movement! Hence why Cossies are quite snappy. The camber means that the car runs on the inside two inches of tyre, hence Cossies eating the inside of rear tyres.

A 6 degree rear beam is a huge improvement to the handling & tyre wear!
I never new toe was a problem with them like camber is as the suspenion compresses you wouldent expect the toe to be able to change if all the bushes are good unlike the camber like I say its some thing I'm going to do on mine this year
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toe change is a big issue as is the camber change
this type of rear suspension modification has been going on in all forms of racing on this beam set up since 1982
unfortunately road going customers tend to spend their money on making it go well not handle well

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Old 07-04-2012, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
have you actually had the geometry measured
No tony, prob should, although is it worth it if it's lowered beyond std...
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get it measured and post up the results
camera angles are deceiving so it would be unwise for me to guess
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if you are skint poor or just a tight fooker you can alter the camber by slotting the inner joint upward with the beam in situ
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Skint

Will get it measured,four wheel alignment rig ?
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So are the the*crucial spherical bearing inner/outer bushs still available from Henry...
Old 19-05-2012, 05:00 PM
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GGR sell them but they are very pricey mind you they were around 200 +vat for a set back in the 90's from ford
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In like the proverbial scalded cat agin tony ,

Cheers mate
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