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Old 26-03-2012, 05:13 AM
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Default Breather system set up.

Right got this breather to set up on the 3dr...ive got the hosing... But what else do I need and how and where does it all pipe up to...?



Cheers Mat.
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The 2 top ones you should be be able to see in my pic Mat, the small one on the bottom goes to the block on the offside and the big hose just breathes to atmosphere, I just cable tied tied it to the antiroll bar.

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Originally Posted by Kitchen Devil
The 2 top ones you should be be able to see in my pic Mat, the small one on the bottom goes to the block on the offside and the big hose just breathes to atmosphere, I just cable tied tied it to the antiroll bar.


Cheers mate.... So the top 2.... 1 goes cam cover and other to old kidney box..?

Bottom small to off side block...? And big to vent to atmosphere....

So do I just need 2 adaptors 1 for cam cover and one for block..?
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That's the ticket mate!

You should able to get the block fitting from Bailey's or possibly a breaker and the tube that goes in the cam cover is just a normal bit of steel tube. I'll measure th size when I get home.
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So what about the exhaust side of the block where they normally return to?
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Originally Posted by Kitchen Devil
That's the ticket mate!

You should able to get the block fitting from Bailey's or possibly a breaker and the tube that goes in the cam cover is just a normal bit of steel tube. I'll measure th size when I get home.
Cheers mate.....

Originally Posted by BRAMMER
So what about the exhaust side of the block where they normally return to?
Think that's the small hose out of the bottom... That goes there iirc.
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Originally Posted by BRAMMER
So what about the exhaust side of the block where they normally return to?
That's where the small one goes to, I did mention it in my reply
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If the small one is your return on your tank you should have that going to your sump below oil level.
If you put it to the block under turbo that won't allow the oil to drain properly because the block will be blowing from there so that is a breather.
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Originally Posted by B13 JUS
If the small one is your return on your tank you should have that going to your sump below oil level.
If you put it to the block under turbo that won't allow the oil to drain properly because the block will be blowing from there so that is a breather.
correct you would be better off not breathing from cam cover & breath from where kidney box is & from under the turbo at back of block .& weld a fitting low down on sump for return .
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Originally Posted by andy escos
correct you would be better off not breathing from cam cover & breath from where kidney box is & from under the turbo at back of block .& weld a fitting low down on sump for return .

Will the above be ok tho for now as I'm taking the sump off later in year and could get a boss in then..?
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I had my breather setup how I said mate and it didn't give me any trouble at all.
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it will work absolutely fine as kitchen devil has described
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Originally Posted by prius
it will work absolutely fine as kitchen devil has described
it may work but it do not mean it can not be improved on though
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my breather is not breathing from the top as there is not enough outlets on the breather. going to look for another breather with three outlets instead of two. Below is a pic of mine in the middle of being hooked up

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Cheers guys.
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Originally Posted by prius
it will work absolutely fine as kitchen devil has described
Does a breather tank drain off
into the block ok on the turbo side?
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Can I "Y" piece into this and breath from the sump as it looks or is this into the block.??

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Originally Posted by rsmat
Can I "Y" piece into this and breath from the sump as it looks or is this into the block.??

Mat - is that a picture of your turbo oil return?

If so - no mate, leave that well alone!
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Originally Posted by Will Pedley
Mat - is that a picture of your turbo oil return?

If so - no mate, leave that well alone!


Yes mate... Right ok mate I'll leave that well alone then.

Cheers mate.
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There should be a 16 or 17mm blanking bolt that goes in the block towards the back hope this helps
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Matt you could use your sump plug as a return
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Originally Posted by wayne dowling
There should be a 16 or 17mm blanking bolt that goes in the block towards the back hope this helps
Thanks Wayne will take a look tomorrow.

Originally Posted by B13 JUS
Matt you could use your sump plug as a return
Not to keen on that mate tbh.
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Here's where the oil drain goes to on the block Mat.

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Originally Posted by Kitchen Devil
Here's where the oil drain goes to on the block Mat.



You sir are a diamond..!!!... Where did you get you adaptor from mate..?
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Not a problem Mat!

That was the fitting that came in the fitting kit from Bailey Motorsport, they may be able to supply you with a fitting separate maybe?

I came across some black silicone fluorolined hose I bought for the breather when I had it but it's no good to me now, do you want it for your car? I don't want anything for it.
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Originally Posted by Kitchen Devil
Not a problem Mat!

That was the fitting that came in the fitting kit from Bailey Motorsport, they may be able to supply you with a fitting separate maybe?

I came across some black silicone fluorolined hose I bought for the breather when I had it but it's no good to me now, do you want it for your car? I don't want anything for it.


Right I will contact bailey tomorrow mate....


Ah yes please that would be a great help mate...
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Sorted mate, send me your address again mate and I'll send it off to you when I next venture into the garage!
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PM'd mate... Many thanks.
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Gary, who done ur big wing sump?
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How about not returning to sump at all....?

And keep a close eye on the tank naturally

I will try this as a test, bacuse when dismantling my previous breather setup, I found that some white residue was inside the breather hoses. I put it down to condensation from when the hot oil vapour comes in contact with the cold hoses, and from when the car cools after a run. I really don't want this residue in my oil.

any view on this ?
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My breather gos back to the sump on the turbo side about 6 inch's back from where the turbo ruturns its oil to the sump! plus mine also breaths from the kidny box and the rocker cover plus also has a catch tank that i can drain that catches all the shity condensated oil casued by not getting the oil hot enough on short journeys
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Originally Posted by Heitmann
How about not returning to sump at all....?

And keep a close eye on the tank naturally

I will try this as a test, bacuse when dismantling my previous breather setup, I found that some white residue was inside the breather hoses. I put it down to condensation from when the hot oil vapour comes in contact with the cold hoses, and from when the car cools after a run. I really don't want this residue in my oil.

any view on this ?
Aluminium breather tanks have a habit of forming condensation overnight when they get cold which generates moisture. Once this moisture mixes with the oil then yes, you see an emulsion. If returned to the sump, oil temps when running correctly will be around 110 degrees celcius, sufficient to evaporate this moisture away.

Personally, depending on how heavily the engine breathes, if there is minimal liquid oil collecting, i'd not bother returning to the sump. If the engine breathes heavily then it becomes a requirement to return. I know of a couple of huge power Evos that can put over a litre of oil into the breather in a single drag pass!
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Originally Posted by Will Pedley
Aluminium breather tanks have a habit of forming condensation overnight when they get cold which generates moisture. Once this moisture mixes with the oil then yes, you see an emulsion. If returned to the sump, oil temps when running correctly will be around 110 degrees celcius, sufficient to evaporate this moisture away.

Personally, depending on how heavily the engine breathes, if there is minimal liquid oil collecting, i'd not bother returning to the sump. If the engine breathes heavily then it becomes a requirement to return. I know of a couple of huge power Evos that can put over a litre of oil into the breather in a single drag pass!
Thats my point - I mean who doesn't check the oil level very regularly on a cossie anyway? - I check almost on every morning startup, and if driven hard, I definately do it before next startup.
Personally experience because of driving style or the breather setup I see a little "emulsion" So with the risk of a chunk of this, being returned to the sump, I prefer not to return at all.
It also saves me from using a separtor, and having two hoses on the inlet side.

but a litre in one pass...
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Originally Posted by Heitmann
Thats my point - I mean who doesn't check the oil level very regularly on a cossie anyway? - I check almost on every morning startup, and if driven hard, I definately do it before next startup.
Personally experience because of driving style or the breather setup I see a little "emulsion" So with the risk of a chunk of this, being returned to the sump, I prefer not to return at all.
It also saves me from using a separtor, and having two hoses on the inlet side.

but a litre in one pass...
My set up that returns to the sump and has a catch tank hasent ever left emulsion in my or engine and my catch tank only fills with misty oil vapour as it should. Condensation is caused by oil not getting hot enough and catches in the catch tank and breaths to atmosphere via a filter in the catch tank so its not left in the engine to cause a sludge or emulsion in the oil
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Originally Posted by R4N S S
Gary, who done ur big wing sump?
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