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Old 03-03-2012, 09:50 PM
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What an amazing little engine. Petrol is far from dead

It'll be interesting to see what other manufacturers will be offering

http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/...-Zetec/261245/
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1.0 177bhp http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/261456/
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Impressive!
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If they can pull the best part of 180bhp from a 1.0, surely they could offer a hell of a lot more from a 1.6ecoboost?
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If they can pull the best part of 180bhp from a 1.0, surely they could offer a hell of a lot more from a 1.6ecoboost?
Exactly. Should be some good things to come.
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Amazing that they can do that
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Originally Posted by Mister G
If they can pull the best part of 180bhp from a 1.0, surely they could offer a hell of a lot more from a 1.6ecoboost?
I think they're focussing ( excuse the pun ) on the fact they can get 57mpg and mega low carbon emissions from a 125bhp petrol car

Altho yes it should mean theres scope for the 1.6 ecoboost......which we'll see in the fiesta ST soon

Properly impressive, whats impressive is the roadtest saying its perky and good to drive too.
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It's a shame that manufacturers still have to conform to nonsense emission laws, if they were allowed to design engines as they could, they would be powerful & cleaner & more efficient than they are now!

Great bit of engineering though, wonder if it will be as tricky to drive as the Ford Diesels?!
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Hopeing I can get one of these next year or the year after once the initial depreciation has dropped off them. Would like the 125 Zetec.
I think it really is a perfect engine. It will sound nice (I imagine it will be very V6ish), it will have good tuning potential and be good on fuel.

Only thing that worries me is long term. My current 406 has done 120k and the engine still drives and pulls like new. What are these little 1.0T going to be like after 120k and 10 years?
Or will we be going back to the days of 100k engine overhauls?

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Looks like a winner on many levels , and with the same tec on larger cc models should be good , think the f1 engines of the 80s showed that cc is not allways a main factor of power .
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
It's a shame that manufacturers still have to conform to nonsense emission laws, if they were allowed to design engines as they could, they would be powerful & cleaner & more efficient than they are now!
Im not sure I follow? How would relaxing the emmisions laws make manufacturers able to make cleaner, more efficient engines?
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Im not sure I follow? How would relaxing the emmisions laws make manufacturers able to make cleaner, more efficient engines?
Because they have to map around 1 or 2 specific test points on the fuel map, for a specific gas. Thats why remapping works so well, on top of the fuel quality issues in other countrys etc
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Will be very interesting to see how good they will be.The focus is a big car so i hope the engine will be able to perform well.
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
Because they have to map around 1 or 2 specific test points on the fuel map, for a specific gas. Thats why remapping works so well, on top of the fuel quality issues in other countrys etc
Thats what I was looking for, can u expand any more, can stu add to this do we think?
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
It's a shame that manufacturers still have to conform to nonsense emission laws, if they were allowed to design engines as they could, they would be powerful & cleaner & more efficient than they are now!

Great bit of engineering though, wonder if it will be as tricky to drive as the Ford Diesels?!
True, but in the real world it would never happen as emissions is the problem, an example is a modern Diesel, which have a lot of potential but are held back, otherwise they would produce harmful Noax emissions, on the other hand economy would be improved!

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lets hope it doesn't sound like the hatefull vauxhall 3 cylinder lumps
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Only problem with it I see is, these engines are so far tuned from factory to be as little as possible with as much power as possible, so that if anbody wants to further modify them, they're going to struggle to get much more power out of them reliably.

on the other hand, it may however not be a problem as you may only buy one for economy anyway!
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I think that sounds pretty good, i will have a test drive in one of them when i get the chance...
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Impressive figures from a modern, economical 1000cc engine... but don't think I'd be happy spending the cash on one for a long term option or buying a used example a few years down the line. Might be an old skool way of thought, but a 1.0 engine (turbo'd or not) pulling around a ~1300kg car for 50, 60, 70k miles will take it's toll quicker than an equivalent larger capacity engine would over the same distance.


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Originally Posted by RS Grant
Impressive figures from a modern, economical 1000cc engine... but don't think I'd be happy spending the cash on one for a long term option or buying a used example a few years down the line. Might be an old skool way of thought, but a 1.0 engine (turbo'd or not) pulling around a ~1300kg car for 50, 60, 70k miles will take it's toll quicker than an equivalent larger capacity engine would over the same distance.


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That seems to be the general consensus, but then I guess Ford have lab tested under harsh conditions, but even so, as you say, 50k say in a lab is different to an equal millage in the real world.

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If anyone is intrested in purchasing one then il be more than happy to see what i can offer you

Please send me a PM if your intrested
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One of the 125ps engines in a KA ST would be awesome!!!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sroDxB7MLEo

Definatley sounds like a V6! Especcially from the back end!
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