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Old 05-02-2012, 12:32 PM
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Default AP Racing cosworth clutch pedal weight?

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I am considering weather or not to go to hydraulic clutch conversion on my YB powered Mk1 escort. I have used uprated clutches before, however only with organic linings.

The question is, what is the pedal "weight" like on the ap racing "sprung" six padel clutch as sold by the likes of burton power/reyland etc??..
Is this managable in normal driving, Would like to hear from people that have "used this specific clutch" with a cable please..
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im going to hydraulic mine soon as im going through the hole car uprateing bits before i go for more power but to be honest the ap on a cable clutch isent to bad and has never really bothered me!
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Does any one know the the weight of the cover in pounds etc? . I hered an uprated cvh one was around 1600lb once i think ?..
I don't mind changing the cables every 2/3 years if need be. I know they don't last !!.
Is the pedal weight much more heavy than a stand one?
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Just got the alcon 6 paddle in mine the pedal feels sweet, not heavy at all and still on a cable. I hear the AP is a bit heavier though.
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depends on the cover plate. If you have a heavy duty cover plate with the 6 paddle AP it WILL be a lot heavier on the cable clutch compared to a standard clutch. Hydraulic is a good way to go for reliability anyway.
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Any more opions ..
It is the complete kit with the Ap cover.Hydraulic conversion is exspence.
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" ajamesc" did you use your Ap with the heavy Ap cover or with a ford jobby??
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Originally Posted by 1300gt
" ajamesc" did you use your Ap with the heavy Ap cover or with a ford jobby??
mine is on a heavy duty cover yes and hydraulic is only expensive if you buy a kit lol you can get a master / slave cylinder for under 30 pounds if you use bmw and landrover parts!
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I'm strongly considering this too. Mine runs a heavy duty cover and AP 6 paddle and it can be a bitch on hill starts for example, very heavy.
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cocyhn it will still be a bitch to pull away as its the nature of a clutch with little slip, but at least youll be able to control it easier with hydraulic.

Plus when you get out the car after driving in heavy traffic you will walk in a straight line rather than in circles
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
you can get a master / slave cylinder for under 30 pounds if you use bmw and landrover parts!
what are the part numbers???
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Ah I don't mind that now, I can a rugby at least twice the distance with my left leg now

I need to drive one with the same setup, but at the mo it doesn't really bother me that much
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I use the AP 6 paddle with uprated cover in mine on a Hydro clutch and its perfect. Very light pedal.
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They should be able to tell you the clamping pressure of the pressure plate you are to purchase. In NZ you can get the pressure plates uprated (change pivot point of fingers) i first tried 2300lbs very heavy but am now using 2100lbs squeeze daily on a cable clutch which is alot better. I have got used to it but jump back into a japper and you almost punch the clutch pedal through the floor!! i would go over 1900lbs next time, he measured a std cossie pressure plate for me which was 1700lbs to start with.
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go hydro clutch, apart from big brakes it is imo the best mod you can do to a cossie you end up with a pedal that can almost be blown to the floor lol
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ive got an ap 6 paddle clutch to go in my saph - but when i had my 3dr i tried a couple of cars with the ap 6 paddle and the alcon 6 paddle clutches fitted - the alcon had a much lighter pedal feel so i went with that in my 3dr and never had any issues.

I need a light pedal as have had two knee ops on my left leg
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just been looking at these on the bay ,


not sure if there specific to size ect ,


but looks the same as the burton kits ?


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2509286558...84.m1423.l2649

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BTTT for part numbers. Someone must know. Cant imagine it's only traders that know this info by now so i dont get all the secrecy. You hear a lot on here how cheap it is to do without buying a kit or how you can get centre push easily too yet noone shares the details. Strange.
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il have look for part numbers the top one was easy as its off a landrover series 2 and i use build them and work on them ,bottom is a bmw item
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Originally Posted by COCHYN
I'm strongly considering this too. Mine runs a heavy duty cover and AP 6 paddle and it can be a bitch on hill starts for example, very heavy.
Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
cocyhn it will still be a bitch to pull away as its the nature of a clutch with little slip, but at least youll be able to control it easier with hydraulic.

Plus when you get out the car after driving in heavy traffic you will walk in a straight line rather than in circles
Originally Posted by ajamesc
mine is on a heavy duty cover yes and hydraulic is only expensive if you buy a kit lol you can get a master / slave cylinder for under 30 pounds if you use bmw and landrover parts!
Keep the info on part no. coming guys. I may do this.

Whats the weight of your flywheels chaps any ideas ?
Old 29-02-2012, 06:46 PM
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Lol !!
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So know part numbers on the master cylinder and slave to use then for conversions then guys ???
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Clutch cable it is then!
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does seem no one knows the part numbers or more worringly wont tell us.
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i got the ap 6 paddle wicked clutch but snapped two pattern clutch cable last year
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i forgot bout this will look to day for yous
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I have this set up in my MKII Cosworth Escort:

T5 Burton Hydraulic Conversion
AP 6 Paddle Clutch - bought from Burton
AP Pressure Plate - bought from Matt Lewis

Only problem is my car isn't finish quite yet so won't be able to tell you if its OK !!!!???!!!!

If you need part numbers let me know.

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cool dingla
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Wouldn't mind doing this to mine as the new clutch with hd cover is a lot harder to push now
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both that are needed its easy to find them on ebay its all i did look at pics an match them

just exsample
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-new-cl...item27c481e3c1

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover...item23197d1b36

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