Whats people's view on this and is it worth doing ?????



Sorry for nicking your picture Ronnie

Steve

 

looks amazing! Would it work as well with the grill in front of it though??

 

Its a lot better than being stuck behind a headlight lol (3dr grills have a wire mesh, not solid like a taxi)

Steve

 

u just answered your own question big boy! Is that just a group a sized one?

 

What are you gaining?

 

Im not sure about water getting into it when its raining, will it have any effect ????????

Steve

 

I have no idea thats why i asked the question

Steve

 

Pro's and con's really

Looks good
gets it out of the way
away from heat next to the turbo
better air flow
does the turbo cooler get effected with it bang in the way

 

Not got one

Steve

 

id say its gotta be a better location than standard, especially as its further away from the turbo and should get decent air flow behind the grille.

when i relocated my air filter on my r5gtt it certainly drove smoother especially lower down the rev range

 

carnt do any worse than sat behind the head light and near the turbo can it ! think it should be well nice cold air and loads of it

 

ideal if it's for a weekend toy, not for an evey day car...

 

I dont think Steves car is a everyday car.I would defo get a good cold air feed to it.

 

I think the Cosworth bonnet louvers are a bad design anyway as the nearside one is right above the coil and the offside one above the cone filter (Admittedly they had airboxes as standard)

Back to the question I don't think it's worth it imo, it may aid induction, but temperature is irrelevant as the air it will be heated up anyway (Hence why you have a decent intercooler)

Also, as you say, if you use the car in rain it will get covered in spray, in Ronnie's situation it's probably isn't an issue as it's used for track etc so far as I can make out?

Martin

 

I think it's a waste of time.

 

Get it done big boy!!

 

I would just leave it has it is IMO... WRC guys and the rest didn't change... Rod... Martin... Scs escort never changed there location and your is a puppy compared to all those.

 

Seems to be a 50/50 split on peoples views

I will await Mr Moancocks view on the subject

Steve

 

water wouldn't be a prob unless it was a sidnificant amount.... remember Team ford have used water injection in their intakes before, as this cools down the fuel air mix and acts as focusing pointws for the flame in the power strokes..... also the presure in the intake system on the intake side ofthe turbo will be higher id are is forced in due to the forward motion of the car, so less effort required from turbo therefore less lag too! then there is the possibity of colder are into ther turbo due to position, this will lead to colder air out as the the heating effect of the turbo is relativly fixed so cooler mix into engine.

The down side would be if the filter fails there is a bigger likelyhood of forign objects getting into the turbo..... and that is not good . that tends to kill engines.

 

Would it be better there than down low, in front of the front wheel? (Like on Martin had on the Reyland Esc. at some point) Obviously with arch liners!

 

ALL race cars, but all felt better throttle response

 

I think its a plus all round! Aslong as you clean it properly more often then you would i don't see many problems apart from alot of water getting in it. Apart from that

 

When i first built the 5 i didnt bother with an air filter/ pipe.
So it was sucking in hot air from around the turbo.

Then i put 2 90 hoses off the front of the turbo it turned right then down and put a big filter on it and a hose from under the car to give it some nice cold air.
It made quite a bit of difference and more responsive.



Also a mate has a very high power subaru legacy with new impreza engine/running gear. (600 odd bhp)
At one stage on the rollers he gained 70bhp by just opening his bonnet! His air filter was being starved of air and it was hot, as soon as it got lots of cooler air it jumped 70bhp without touching anything lol.



All it will cost you is a couple of hoses off ebay, try it!

 

Do it mate. :0)

But will you get slated for nicking the idea like I did

 

As much as Airtec for copying the Hart inlet

Steve

 

do it

 

Im still waiting to hear from Mr Moancock before i do anything.

Steve

 

If tony said jump of a bridge would you....

 

Do you listen to your Tuners advice about your car ?


Steve

 

No I don't....I do what I want and then let them do the set up / mapping.........

 

You have a bloody answer for everything

Steve

 

Sorry pal... Feel free to get me in the boston crab when you next see me.....

 

Works cars used Airboxes, says it all really?

 

you may have to go on cod to find tony at the moment

 

Central Day ???????

Steve

 

Has he got any better, we used to use him as target practice

 

Yea mate.