Cossies out accelerate big bikes right?
22-12-2011, 10:09 PM
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Anyone remember that old video of a turbo bike comparison against the bbr cosworth mogul? Proper old snook video but brilliant engineering gone into both and both were pretty nuts! Just came too me the bike was called the Steve burns monster bike!
22-12-2011, 11:48 PM
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The 185 you claim for the Gixxer is AT THE CRANK (and probably with ramair effect included)...so maybe 150 to 160 at the wheel?
Now my bike has 60 horsepower more AT the WHEEL and nearly double the torque...
still don't think it will be much faster?
I think quite a few turbobikes either exegerate powerfigures or are much less rideable, can't think of another explanation.
Now my bike has 60 horsepower more AT the WHEEL and nearly double the torque...
still don't think it will be much faster?
I think quite a few turbobikes either exegerate powerfigures or are much less rideable, can't think of another explanation.
Wo, not once did I say it wasn't fast, I even said that! Just expected more in the way of power that's all.
23-12-2011, 12:50 AM
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Here's a quick one, 7.904s 1/4m at 190mph
Making nice power and torque (at rear wheel) shame the ignition was acting up on the run below, upgraded ignition setup and they're hoping for over 800bhp!
23-12-2011, 09:37 AM
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What power does a standard Busa have that cant beat mine down Brunters, neither could a works Triumph. Ive a vid of mine munching one of them he was over 190 so a fast bike. A Turboed bike would be a totally different ball game though they can have silly Power. We faced a Turboed Busa in a French mag shoot think that had 240 horses. He was called Mr X & was dressed all in black. He rode over from France to face my Saff & did one run at 190 odd & declared it was to bumpy to reach the 220 odd he could do. Didnt matter he was Blacked flagged for noise 
. Still he didnt beat me 
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. Still he didnt beat me .You wouldnt be the bloke by any chance with the 4x4 saph in the cossy vs R1 Video would you lol ? if you are that cosworth is SAVAGE to put it plainly
23-12-2011, 09:57 AM
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There are a few video's on you tube of a 460 BHP 4X4 Saphy racing a R1 quarter mile, lol the cossy looks to have launch control but no als.....the car just slams to the floor and its gone, good quick gear changes aswell, the R1 heats up his tyres and gives it the works, but the saphy not only out accelerates it but has it mid flow and is a tight finish at the end, i thought it was great. ( TYPE INTO YOUTUBE .... Cosworth vs R1 ) Also when the search results come up there is another video of a cossy on the road joining a roundabout with an R1 infront of it, not too sure about this vid though, basicly the guy on the bike looks behind him to see the cossy up his arse as he joins the slip road to the motorway and ducks his head down to start accelerating, the cossy seems to piss all over the R1 with insane boost and torque but like i said this second video i am a bit wary of but still seeing the drag race video makes you think its very possible to do bikes over in a highly modified COSSY.
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23-12-2011, 04:11 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLHd9-aTmaQ
DRAG RACE WITH R1......GOT TO LOVE THE NOISE OF THE COSSY
23-12-2011, 04:22 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLHd9-aTmaQ
DRAG RACE WITH R1......GOT TO LOVE THE NOISE OF THE COSSY
DRAG RACE WITH R1......GOT TO LOVE THE NOISE OF THE COSSY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwZ5I...e_gdata_player
23-12-2011, 04:46 PM
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DRAG RACE WITH R1......GOT TO LOVE THE NOISE OF THE COSSY[/quote]
TBH the bikes sound simply awesome, love the scream as they climb
Mate had a ZX9R(??)ninja i think it was, with specced cans an had been dyno jetted(??)tbh bike knowledge im well thin on lol but he took me pillion on that..he been a die hard biker for 20+..,
I simply felt humbled after a 30min unhinged ride on the back of that.
Blew me away how he and it geled and just how fast they pick up an go, and that scream as it neared the limit, an the fact that i was physically being lifted off the bastard at 150+.. was probs the biggest rush i have ever had and still yet to be beat.
Fudgekin love bikes me just a shame i aint built to keep one on the road or upright
DRAG RACE WITH R1......GOT TO LOVE THE NOISE OF THE COSSY[/quote]
TBH the bikes sound simply awesome, love the scream as they climb
Mate had a ZX9R(??)ninja i think it was, with specced cans an had been dyno jetted(??)tbh bike knowledge im well thin on lol but he took me pillion on that..he been a die hard biker for 20+..,
I simply felt humbled after a 30min unhinged ride on the back of that.
Blew me away how he and it geled and just how fast they pick up an go, and that scream as it neared the limit, an the fact that i was physically being lifted off the bastard at 150+.. was probs the biggest rush i have ever had and still yet to be beat.
Fudgekin love bikes me just a shame i aint built to keep one on the road or upright
23-12-2011, 06:28 PM
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DRAG RACE WITH R1......GOT TO LOVE THE NOISE OF THE COSSY
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23-12-2011, 06:54 PM
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What power does a standard Busa have that cant beat mine down Brunters, neither could a works Triumph. Ive a vid of mine munching one of them he was over 190 so a fast bike. A Turboed bike would be a totally different ball game though they can have silly Power. We faced a Turboed Busa in a French mag shoot think that had 240 horses. He was called Mr X & was dressed all in black. He rode over from France to face my Saff & did one run at 190 odd & declared it was to bumpy to reach the 220 odd he could do. Didnt matter he was Blacked flagged for noise . Still he didnt beat me .
. Still he didnt beat me .That was one crazy bike lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh6iDLJD9-k
23-12-2011, 06:57 PM
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No !!!
That Cossie is neither fast or Savage im afraid
. An R1 is balls out gasping for mercy at 175mph.Whats the Topspeed of a standard Turbo Busa a non Turbo failed to reach 200mph at Brunters.
23-12-2011, 07:09 PM
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How does a 256.79mph standing mile sound?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOWht...e_gdata_player
23-12-2011, 07:17 PM
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How long is Brunters before you have to hit the brakes?
How does a 256.79mph standing mile sound?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOWht...e_gdata_player
How does a 256.79mph standing mile sound?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOWht...e_gdata_player
You're not listening are you? IT'S SLOW COMPARED TO RODS SAFF, OK???!!!!!!!
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23-12-2011, 07:29 PM
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23-12-2011, 07:52 PM
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How long is Brunters before you have to hit the brakes?
How does a 256.79mph standing mile sound?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOWht...e_gdata_player
How does a 256.79mph standing mile sound?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOWht...e_gdata_player
. I take it thats not a standard Turbo Busa , the one we saw was not in that league . My car can only muster 204 in the mile, rather pathetic against a modded bike . These high Power bikes are on a different planet.Sorry if Sapph 1 starts getting nasty, I know full well the capabilities or lack of in this case of my car as I tend to put my car where lads like Sapph 1 mouth is
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23-12-2011, 08:00 PM
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What power does a standard Busa have that cant beat mine down Brunters, neither could a works Triumph. Ive a vid of mine munching one of them he was over 190 so a fast bike. A Turboed bike would be a totally different ball game though they can have silly Power. We faced a Turboed Busa in a French mag shoot think that had 240 horses. He was called Mr X & was dressed all in black. He rode over from France to face my Saff & did one run at 190 odd & declared it was to bumpy to reach the 220 odd he could do. Didnt matter he was Blacked flagged for noise . Still he didnt beat me .
. Still he didnt beat me .Im getting mine mapped at some point this year, the bloke who maps/sets up my bikes has had N/A Busa's up as far as 220bhp and last time I spoke to him was on with one that was looking good for the 240 mark
I have a 1999 4XV R1 running 150 (149.7) bhp at the rear wheel too, which is great fun
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23-12-2011, 08:15 PM
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23-12-2011, 08:19 PM
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23-12-2011, 08:22 PM
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23-12-2011, 08:26 PM
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Hand over Ł4000 to BigCC Racing and you will get 250-270bhp@wheel with 6psi of boost
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23-12-2011, 08:36 PM
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Rod, my car is approx 500-520bhp, your car is 850-900bhp, its obviously going to be slow compared to yours, but fast to me, and its very, very impressive that your car can achieve what it does and I have EVERY respect for it, although you're STILL to test yours since the new engine has been developed, but I just sometimes wish that, from time to time, you'd just accept that there are other vehicles on the planet that are as fast, maybe even faster than yours, seriously, you're like a stuck record.
What Power to hit that Speed in a mile that is very very fast . I take it thats not a standard Turbo Busa , the one we saw was not in that league . My car can only muster 204 in the mile, rather pathetic against a modded bike . These high Power bikes are on a different planet.
Sorry if Sapph 1 starts getting nasty, I know full well the capabilities or lack of in this case of my car as I tend to put my car where lads like Sapph 1 mouth is.
. I take it thats not a standard Turbo Busa , the one we saw was not in that league . My car can only muster 204 in the mile, rather pathetic against a modded bike . These high Power bikes are on a different planet.Sorry if Sapph 1 starts getting nasty, I know full well the capabilities or lack of in this case of my car as I tend to put my car where lads like Sapph 1 mouth is
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23-12-2011, 10:04 PM
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sapph1... You have no clue, do You??... Have You ever ridder a proper bike?? And no, not Yer Mom's push bike... something with over even 100hp??.... If You have the stones give it a try....
23-12-2011, 10:40 PM
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It's hilarious how the thread has degenerated into a willy waving contest over power. One area in which cars can never compete with bikes is the "organic" feeling of riding a bike - theres nothing else like it.
To the OP, lovely machine, will be good to see some finished pictures.
To the OP, lovely machine, will be good to see some finished pictures.
23-12-2011, 10:43 PM
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my girlfriends dad has a zx12r on nitrous that hit 200.5mph on the runway where richard hammond crashed... his bike sounds savage but i've never seen the appeal really, would scare the shit out of me!
23-12-2011, 10:48 PM
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23-12-2011, 11:27 PM
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Those bikes are mental! Unfortunately videos don't upload well on my mobile, wasn't the ghostriders busa making 499bhp (don't know whether that was crank or wheel power though). I'd never go on a bike though, my balls are nowhere near large enough.
24-12-2011, 06:28 PM
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Ghost rider doing 214.3mph at elvington, on the back wheel.
http://youtu.be/HrBdKHiVUR4
He tried this year to beat that speed but melted a piston.
Nice Kat. looks very nice.
I think the problem here is people always compare highly modified cars to standard bikes. Chuck 10K or what ever it costs at a car evo/cossie/scoob etc and you may get a car that can keep up or just beat an early R1 for example. Not really an achievement when you can buy an early R1 for 2K or less and have super car beating performance. Chuck 10K at a bike and you will pretty much untouchable.
http://youtu.be/HrBdKHiVUR4
He tried this year to beat that speed but melted a piston.
Nice Kat. looks very nice.
I think the problem here is people always compare highly modified cars to standard bikes. Chuck 10K or what ever it costs at a car evo/cossie/scoob etc and you may get a car that can keep up or just beat an early R1 for example. Not really an achievement when you can buy an early R1 for 2K or less and have super car beating performance. Chuck 10K at a bike and you will pretty much untouchable.
24-12-2011, 06:36 PM
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Rod,
A standard Busa is 175 HP at the crank.
I've not idea how much a bike loses through the transmission but I'd call it 150 HP at the wheel for the Busa?
Whatever the case: very fast (and comfy!) bike but not a match for mine I guess.
The Busa has superior aerodynamics though and I think the Busa would easily do 200+ once turbo'd whereas mine is as aerodynamic as a schoolbus
200+ on a bumpy road is fucking scary I reckon!
The higher powered turbo Busa lift the front over crests at silly speeds!
A standard Busa is 175 HP at the crank.
I've not idea how much a bike loses through the transmission but I'd call it 150 HP at the wheel for the Busa?
Whatever the case: very fast (and comfy!) bike but not a match for mine I guess.
The Busa has superior aerodynamics though and I think the Busa would easily do 200+ once turbo'd whereas mine is as aerodynamic as a schoolbus
200+ on a bumpy road is fucking scary I reckon!
The higher powered turbo Busa lift the front over crests at silly speeds!