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Old 12-12-2011, 09:17 PM
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Default focus 1.4 to st170 engine

hi all seen a coversion kit on ebay to convert your focus to an st170 i currently have a 1.4 and just wondered how much work it would be?

would i have to change the complete wiring loom?

has anyone done it before and is there a thread?

any advice would be great

thanks
Old 12-12-2011, 11:24 PM
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If its a kit should come with everything you need
They not a bad car work on as you can unbolt the hole front end
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I would think its a yes to the loom well the frount part of it as theres a lot more going on you would all so need the ST clocks / ECU / the chips out of the keys and the ring that gose on the barrol to make the ECU come to life . all i can say to you need to look into this very deep
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Sell 1.4

Buy ST170.

Done.

As above, lots going on with newer cars to start doing engine swaps, bear in mind the ST170 doesn't have a return on the fuel system and has a dedicated module to drive the fuel pump.

If you want to do the conversion surely the best way would be to buy a complete car (salvage/damage repairable) so you've got EVERYTHING you need.
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Originally Posted by GVK.
Sell 1.4

Buy ST170.

Done.

As above, lots going on with newer cars to start doing engine swaps, bear in mind the ST170 doesn't have a return on the fuel system and has a dedicated module to drive the fuel pump.

If you want to do the conversion surely the best way would be to buy a complete car (salvage/damage repairable) so you've got EVERYTHING you need.
+ 1 on this it would be the best way to do it
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Originally Posted by GVK.
Sell 1.4

Buy ST170.

Done.

As above, lots going on with newer cars to start doing engine swaps, bear in mind the ST170 doesn't have a return on the fuel system and has a dedicated module to drive the fuel pump.

If you want to do the conversion surely the best way would be to buy a complete car (salvage/damage repairable) so you've got EVERYTHING you need.
Originally Posted by COLEYST200
+ 1 on this it would be the best way to do it

+ 2

totally agree!
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I'm selling one with 56k on for 2000
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Another with the same thoughts, just buy an st170, they're cheap enough now. Not sure on why you'd want to do the conversion though. After a 1.4 it will be quick but its a lot of work to have whats essentially a mild performance car i'd want more than 170(at best) for all that work.
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Originally Posted by tejy
+ 2

totally agree!
+3 - me too !
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i dont think the OP is a youngun hence wanting to convert his existing 1.4 - not sure what he would do about the insurance tho as it will be easier to insure the st170
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Originally Posted by GVK.
Sell 1.4

Buy ST170.

Done.

As above, lots going on with newer cars to start doing engine swaps, bear in mind the ST170 doesn't have a return on the fuel system and has a dedicated module to drive the fuel pump.

If you want to do the conversion surely the best way would be to buy a complete car (salvage/damage repairable) so you've got EVERYTHING you need.
Exactly that, it's the same as asking the same old question "Is it easy to swap from a 1.6 to 2L", the 1.4 is just the same engine, just smaller capacity therefore the same applies!

As such they differ totally from the 1.8/2L Zetec-E and ST170 for example inlet and exhaust manifolds oppose each other, different suspension etc.

Do a search on 1.6 to 2L etc and you will see exactly whats involved, so to cut a long question short, unless you are really attached to the car, sell and buy the bigger engine to start with.

Insurance will most likely be more as it's a modified car!

Incidentally, not only the loom but the St170 also utilities "Black Oak" engine management, so totally different to "EEC" which you currently have!

IMO if I was looking for a performance Foci it would be the MK2 ST (225) or MK1 FRS, both are quite affordable now!

Martin

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