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Old 10-12-2011, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by zetaboostboy522bhp
HERES THE MACHINE







HERES MY MIG WELDING , DONE A BIT BEFORE , NOT A GREAT DEAL BUT ITS GETTING NEATER EVERYTIME





ANOTHER ONE JUST TO SHOW ITS NOT LUCK LOL



AND I ONLY GOT MY TIG WELDING GAS LAST WEEK SO IVE ONLY PRATICED A FEW TIMES , I WATCHED A YOUTUBE VID ON HOW TO TIG WELD AND GAVE IT MY FIRST SHOT



NOT TO BAD WITH FILLER ROD BUT COULD BE NEATER

SECOND GO WITH FILLER ROD AND GETTING NEATER BUT STILL SOME WAY TO GO



AND JUST FUSING USING THE TOURCH



HOPE THIS SHOWS YOU HOW GOOD THE MACHINE IS IN BAD HANDS LOL
I WILL DEFO POP IN ON MONDAY AND SEE IF ITS STILL ON OFFER

CHEERS PAUL
i thought you made manifolds???

as mentioned above, the difference between c02 and argon is like night and day, there is no way i would ever weld again with c02 it gives such a shite weld
Old 10-12-2011, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by botters
i thought you made manifolds???

as mentioned above, the difference between c02 and argon is like night and day, there is no way i would ever weld again with c02 it gives such a shite weld
I DO MAKE MANIFOLDS MATE I DO ALL THE WORK APART FROM THE WELDING AS ITS BACK PURGED ETC , BUT THATS WHY IAM LEARNING TO TIG STAINLESS BUT TO GET IT TO MY WELDERS STANDARD WILL MAYBE TAKE A FEW YEARS LOL AS HES VERY NEAT , IAM GOING TO TAKE MY PRACTICE PIECE WITH ME ON FRIDAY TO SEE WHAT HE THINKS WHICH SHOULD BE FUN

I USED ARGONSHIELD FOR MIG AND PURE ARGON FOR TIG

CHEERS PAUL
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Thankyou Paul i really appriciate the pictures! just what i was looking for! and i got to say for what little reviews there are online for this machine there all full of praise so deffo dont think it would be a step in the wrong direction! was looking at Murex before i saw this machine but for the sake of the tig this has pulled me into wanting the thermal arc! also size and weight goes for it too! its not something i will be using daily just home garage use.

if i was wanting mig only i would go purely for the murex. for something your not doing daily i think those welds are a great start! did you set up the machine based on the machines settings on the inside cover?
Old 11-12-2011, 09:54 AM
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on the inside cover it tells you which way round you need the polarity plug etc for different types of mig welding only ie migging stainless , aluminium , mild etc
its abit of a read when you start but its worth it , and i only used the amp guide and then practiced on different thicknesses of metal tweeking the settings to best suit my needs


cheers paul
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Originally Posted by zetaboostboy522bhp
now that sounds like the dogs , thats the only thing that lets the thermal arc machine down that its not pulsed as this is how you get fantastic neat welds in tig mode.
the thermal arc fabricator 181i is inverter based instead of transformer with gives you a very stable welding arc in all modes plus the machine only weighs 14.9 kg which is around the same as a hand bag. also in mig mode it goes down to 10amps and upto 180amp which is better than a portamig machine. now if you wanna learn mig , tig and stick then you cant get better than this machine imo for the price as it was meant to be £1000 and is on offer with a stick tool , euro tourch for around £580
the tig touch is around £100 mark so its great value for money.

cheers paul
Where did you get it at that price ?
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now own the thermal arc 181i its sat under the tree ready for the big day bring on the tig!!
Old 17-12-2011, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by youngben
now own the thermal arc 181i its sat under the tree ready for the big day bring on the tig!!

Did you get it for the same price ?

Cheapest Ive seen is £770 on egay
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Originally Posted by youngben
now own the thermal arc 181i its sat under the tree ready for the big day bring on the tig!!
did bob sort you out ok mate? the price was 595+vat and 95 +vat for the tig tourch that was on offer from my local boc , but they only had 1 in at a time and they said bens was the last one at the discount price but to be fare i think its still worth £800 of anyone money

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I tried callin bob but was engaged the couple of times i rang so ended up going to Rapid who advertise on ebay! through there website got it for £720 inc and with a 5kg of wire and the hose to connect the reg and free postage. arrived next day so chuffed now! the one at BOC by paul may still be availibe!

Would just like to say a big thankyou to Paul for his help with making my mind up to buy this one and im sure i wont be disapointed top bloke
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http://www.rapidwelding.com/dynamic/...spx?c=W1003186
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Yea seen that. When Zeta said £580, I assumed that was the purchase price. Not £580 + robbingbastardtax

Still looks like a great machine. Until Ive used this 15kg roll of stainless though, I wont be changing lol
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yeh he probs gets his Vat back but for the likes of me and you its not so cheep lol
Old 18-12-2011, 09:31 AM
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Mines a murex tradesmig 245 single phase, rare as fook machine but i dont care what any 1 says its 1 of the best welders ever! theses still fetch getting on for £500 and there 15 yrs old now. Imo co2 is very good for penetration but you do get a fair bit of splatter, argon gives a "prettier" weld thow.
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yeh it was originaly going to be a Murex and its what i have been looking for but this one popped up being Tig also it made me sway towards this machine! been searching everywhere for reviews and for what i could find they are all positive! its not going to be a day to day machine just hobby garage work so didnt need industrial but wanted something better than a clarke that would actuly give exellent penitration on a 6mm bit of steel rather than making a pretty mess that falls of after.
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i would rather spend that little bit more and get a ac/dc set
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I use a 200A AC/DC TIG set from R-Tech, i just need more practice with it!

Here's an unfinished header tank in 1.2mm aluminium i've been making

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Originally Posted by youngben
yeh he probs gets his Vat back but for the likes of me and you its not so cheep lol
no mate i dont claim my tax back so we are the same lol, no probs helping let us know if you need any advice etc

cheers paul

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Originally Posted by Red16
I use a 200A AC/DC TIG set from R-Tech, i just need more practice with it!

Here's an unfinished header tank in 1.2mm aluminium i've been making

Ive the same unit. Little clue how to use it though lol

What sort of settings would you use for that work ? Even a pic of the front end ?
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My work bought this one as a investment.

Think it had to be brought from holland or somewhere in europe anyway as nowhere in the UK had one to rent and the american guys who are using it to weld invar wanted a water cooled one.

Ive no idea about welders and no one in my work can even use it


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Miller are top notch they use them at my work! up there with murex but you have to pay the ££££ and for what i will use it, it doesnt warrant the cost! very nice machine though.
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Originally Posted by youngben
Miller are top notch they use them at my work! up there with murex but you have to pay the ££££ and for what i will use it, it doesnt warrant the cost! very nice machine though.
Yeah it wasnt cheap, they bought it because we had to arrange a welder for american tool makers to come over and fix a few things and it had to also be rented from europe somewhere and the carrage was expensive as fook.

So work decided to buy it and rent it to the americans when they have to come over and fix tools over here.

Worked out well as we have only had it a month or 2 and its already paid for itself

The extension cable for it which is 100m was £750 ffs
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jeez thats an extension and a half lol! nice!!
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Originally Posted by daviddunlop83
My work bought this one as a investment.

Think it had to be brought from holland or somewhere in europe anyway as nowhere in the UK had one to rent and the american guys who are using it to weld invar wanted a water cooled one.

Ive no idea about welders and no one in my work can even use it
Invar ?
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Invar ?
Yeah, you mean what is Invar or were is it used?
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both..
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
both..
Its a nickle steel alloy and they use it for large tools to make aircraft parts which are up to 60 feet long. They use it when making carbon fibre parts as it has a low CTE as these tools all go into the autoclave.

I dunno what welder they use in america when they make the tools as they were having to weld 1" thick plates together. Think it was at least 6 full welds 60 foot long. I think its very hard to get a really good weld and the customer asks for ridiculas vacuum checks to be performed on the tools at autoclave tempterature.

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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Ive the same unit. Little clue how to use it though lol

What sort of settings would you use for that work ? Even a pic of the front end ?
Here you go Stevie

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Is this any good

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SIP-200A-0...#ht_3210wt_926
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