Luca

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Not my shopping car you douche... my S1.

The fiesta though is an RS1800 which is the rarer of of the MK3 Fiestas..
However, its kinda lost all its originality with being modded .. I would dread to think what its actual resale value would be. (Pint of buckie and a packet of crisps)

I've noticed more lately when driving to work that if you note car registrations 95% of them on the road daily now are a maximum of 12 years old. So these rarer cars start to go up in value as there harder to find especially in good condition.. CRAZY really but hey ho...


Iv'e always wanted an E type Jag 10 years ago they were fetching 20-25k now your looking at 50-60k

lukeytheduke

That race was mental, love ali g... U want me to lay a brick here right now pmsl

Anyway back to the corsa problem it wasnt 0-30 it was of the line purely as the weight factor. the same way a cyclist or sprinter is quicker of the line but no one believed me

Rod-Tarry

You are kidding right .
Few Cossies will out perform mine mate so i can comment on this, your statement is very very blinkered. Its a 1990's saloon you cant compare it to a modern performance car . There are many Audi's/bmw out there which would blow your old girl out of the water in all respects.
Please dont tell me i dont have a passion for cars ive been into fast cars for 45 years just not blinkered over Dagenham dustbins.

Lambchop

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Luca

I cant find the fucking hook smiley


C8SEE

Is your name Kate/Cate? May I call you that?

Rsmat

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All because he cant launch and got blown by one...

Lambchop

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I cant find the thread. Where is it?

james kiely

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cosworths or s1,1600i etc will never go down in value from where they are at the minute .the world is going through economic meltdown and these cars are still holding their value atm .

Lambchop

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Is that how you justify the collection to your wife?

Psycho Warren

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no one was stupid enough to buy one new as an investment (I hope )

the people who got them as investments probably paid Ł10-15k for them 10 years ago and are now laughing all the way to the bank as some mug will pay them Ł45-60k for one.

Jay,

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the way i see it is

RS500 true classic and rare Ł25k to 60k
3 doors 10k to 20k
escorts Ł7.5k to Ł14k
saffs Ł3k to Ł6K

i think that a spec of a cossie in this day of age will not define the price or in the future as there getting to classic car status it will be how original the car is and condition low owners and if there has been resto work on a cossie how well its been done! and how many cossie's out there that look really nice but there nailed together so there will always be a 3k-5k saff then on the other end of the scale there will be big bucks RS500'S and 3doors saffs BUT it will always boil down to what will anyone pay! id pay strong money for a 500/3door myself but a saff nah 5k tops

3FRD

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My name is CASEE hence the plate. Alot of people thought I bought it for my cossie but I never even thought when I put it on.

Most people call me Stephen though.

Lambchop

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Jay is that you??

That sense makes sense and I totally agree

maxest

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Not sure i agree with that.. They have dipped in value.. escort cosworths have been hit hard imo

3FRD

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I agree with this. They are good value at the minute.

lukeytheduke

U missed the point totally rod. Yer new cars have better traction can corner better more comfortable to drive but that means nothing against a cosworth. Who cares it wheel spins in 4th and a slight bump in the road and u worry some parts may fall off.

The point is no one gives a shit if they see u in a 30k bmw audi etc they wont think anything, but then if your going down the motorway and you see a cossie your reaction is the total opposite,and yes we all know your saph is king of the saph's ffs

Its not about looks or performance its about a cosworths history and legacy

Luca

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I thought you were intersted, I feel used

3FRD

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David Carlton: Tell me, Ali, do you have a job?
Ali G: Unfortunately, I iz recently gone on the dole...
David Carlton: Really? When?
Ali G: Eight years and three months ago.
David Carlton: Says here you claim disability benefit, are you...?
Ali G: Yes, I iz actually spasticated. I iz got a terrible DJ'ing injury - I still ain't got full mobility in me main mixing finger...
[starts to air-mix, winces, feigns pain, and stops. Notices Carlton's fit secretary looking at him, so he points to his crotch]
Ali G: Everything down there's still working, though! Oh, yes...

lukeytheduke

Got blown by your mum sorry mate couldnt resist

3FRD

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You're not far off here, but I think the 500 is overpriced at 60k by about 40k LOL

Jay,

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its me

and stone the crow's

Fraggle...

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the RS history in general cossie or rst's...

But we all know that you can get an 04 M3 below 7k...so who gonna buy a Esc cossie for 15k or a cracking s2 for 6k??

I Love all fords and always will and have a mk2 fez for dailys,,and its shit.I Love it but its shit.
So if i had the option to have a nice comfy daily or buy a 20+ ford,then drive around with that doubt in the back of the nogging of is it going to "come on" on the m25,,that Would be why i would'nt buy a cossie or rst...Plus lbh here pf is full of evo's and we all know there credentials,,and price....most rs's are at semi retirement age and to keep them alive maybe its good that we let the new blood pull the cart for a bit..so how can a cossie compete on price..?Shame really.

Hopefully when i can afford a play thing there will be some lovely one's about due to the evo's an the like filling the gap...

Rsmat

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No problem mate... She said she had blown ya.. Her corsa's very rapid off the line if you can't launch Cossie right.....

Smit

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The numbers of RS cars are dwindling with lots of cars getting broken up for spares etc..

But at the minute it's a buyers market, and money always talks.... I would be prepared to pay top money for a car which has been well looked after. It's just a matter of what else in coming down in price aswell!

Look at the E46 M3's, a car 10yrs newer ranging from 7-12k. But with Cosworths it down to whether they float your boat or not.

Jay,

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well the thing is rs500 original bttc cars until 10 years ago were worth 10-15k with a healthy spares package and now you will anything from 70k to 140k all according to its history ! now if you look at all the cosworth cars out of all of them the 500 was a limited build so they were rare from day one , the type of owner from new was a different mind set so 99% of them were looked after correctly so you have 2 different audiences for them 1 a ford nut that has plenty of money to buy a rare ford 2 a car collector that buy's rare cars..

The RS200 was worth nothing when ford released it look at the price of them now

Mike1

Ironically, it would probably cost you more to buy a 20-25 year old M3 than a 10 year old one!

lukeytheduke

And she had shopping in the back too i practised my launches a bit now so am 100percent better at last pmsl. Only taken 8years

lukeytheduke

Quality mate cracks me up just thinking about it. It should of one some awards! Funnyest bit is - i want everyone to wear there camo so we dont stand out and then they turn up in bright pink green and orange pmsl. Funnyest film ever mate

PAUL S

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Both parties are very rich and the one deals in cars far more expensive than shonky old sierrras, they know their stuff so I doubt your comment counts for much in their eyes, and I should add that the car in question is black with a nice big star on the bonnet and last I heard was for sale for Ł150k in Australia.

Another from the same stable, which won the Spa 24 hrs race and has been untouched since is available for Ł200k.

500 road car wise the best genuine turndown offer I am aware of is Ł70k.

Supply and demand, whether you like it or not thats how it works in a democratic world.

3FRD

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I thought you were taking about a run of the mill RS500 road car, there's a big difference to a well known race car. It could and should demand big money.

I don't want my comment to count for much in there eyes, I'm only stating what I think and as I said before it's only my opinion. Whether you like it or not it's how it works in a democratic world LOL

Rsmat

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ROFL.....

Karl 3dr

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Totally agree, at the end of the day, decent cars are getting rarer and rarer these days but there is still a market for them so the prices are bound to go up. The ones that go for less are either priced for a quick sale or in need of work/tidying.

james kiely

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only on the ones she knows about chop


max ,i agee with you on the escos ,

i counted on pistonheadswhat cossies were for sale [i was bored ]

20 escos,s
5 3 dr,s
19 saffs
1 500

escos,s are struggling because their are more of them out their for sale thus keeping the prices down unfortunatley
3dr,s are maintaing their prices,because the low number s for sale ,and everyone wants a 3dr
500,s ,very small supply and market equals big price tag
the saffs ,have a bigger market because they are cheaper and more accessible to people,and are probably used as a everyday car more than any rs and good ones are still soughtafter .


just my take on things ,so dont everyone rush off to pistonheads counting cars to prove me wrong lol

Mike C

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I don't own an S1 and never have, but what money a Cosworth fetches has no bearing on what money an RS Turbo costs.

Classic cars fetching tens, even hundreds of thousands are technically inferior to cars worth less than a grand that are ten years old, that's not the point.

Even look at MK1/2 Escorts worth a hell of a lot more than an early Focus even though the Focus has alot more luxuries and vastly superior engineering. It's not the point.....

Mike C

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Without talking about concours examples, but good, useable, showable examples I'd say Ł25k-Ł35k

david 100

I was asked by a Jag saleman why i am driving a 25 year old Ford, i replied becuse its here and i can, in 25 years time these Jags will have no windows and the door welded up becuse they will be driving round a banger racing track.

john_p_b

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this made me chuckle!

i love my saph but if i was in the market for a 20-30k car i'd buy a 20-30k car so i don't really see your point there.

yes the RS brand is a big part of motorsport history but you go and ask your average 17-20yr old driver about a cossie and they don't have a clue! when i take mine out i get more people in their 40's and 50's talking to me about it as they remember them when they first came out and had them as company cars etc.

prices..........waste of time even considering prices as the minute, the majority of the country is on it's arse so finding a true perspective of the value of the cars is very hard.

lukeytheduke

I had one hand on my heart standing upright with a slight happy tear when i wrote that

The point i was trying to make is people dont buy a cossie as its an easy drive and comfy they buy one so they feel involved with the whole driving experiance. PEOPLE DEEP DOWN WISH THEY HAD A COSWORTH EVEN THE PEOPLE IN THEIR 30K audi or bmws

3FRD

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No they don't LOL

Jay,

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no they really dont ive had all sorts of RS'S and cossie would be last on the list

Mr RS500

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With every car in the world , the buyer sets the values

you can ask any price you like for any car until somone actually pays you that price it isnt worth it , BUT , when they do pay it then thats its value

RS500 prices shot up because people wanted one and were willing to pay asking prices to get one

The only daft prices these days are what people are asking for rotten / scabby / badly repaired cossies , they see good items for sale and asume that car is as much of a pile of shit that theres is so ask the same money , then wonder why it hasnt sold , lol