gotta speak as i find i pmd james and the reply was almost instant. i spoke to the others and i have to say they were all very helpful .

 

yeah, kind of phrased that wrong

 

you're wrong

dyno is better for the reasons michael says, but comes with the proviso that airflow and temperature are representative of on road conditions

 

So be it then mate....I just thought with the road drag and temps ...ect it would have allmost been a better set up on a car....How wrong am i....

 

there all good at that power lol but if you think you will move with it one day power wise then m.a.d are the best!

 

What ever you do/map the last place it needs to be checked/tweaked/mapped has to be the road/track as this is where it is driven.

Mark

 

For this kind of thing....

I remember when i first bought my Cosworth i was very cautious about what state of tune was safe and reliable as the general chat about RS's is they just blow up so you can't blame the questions.

Once he speaks to a decent company he will soon understand a well tuned YB can be both reliable and quick.

 

fo sho, and the car manufacturers also do that as the final tweaks to driveability etc are best done in that way.

 

Yeah that amazed me when I got up here.
I stay in Aberdeen and in asda carpark alone tonight I've seen a mint escos,Renault 5GT turbo,loads of evo's,scoobies pimped up motors etc.,you'd think there would be a huge market.
Probably too many rich oil types driving their lambos and ferraris who just swap them for new ones when they want more power!

As for the rod statement that's pretty bang on,not sure what his problem is lately but he seems to slate anyone who wants to do what he "wrote" a book about,I.e tune up a "normal" car to get better performance out of it.
Ok he went a fair bit further than most with his.
Did you know it did over 200mph?
I think it's been mentioned once or twice.

 

Try living in northern Ireland. I need to get a boat then a 600/700 mile round trip lol

 

X2!! You boys are lucky over there!

 

Now im more confused than scooby doo....So when a cars mapped on the rollers it has to be tweaked on the road...So...A live mapping session on the road in the first place is surly about better drive ability as well as the power right..?....

 

Doing on a RR confirms your power so you know you are in the ball park of where it should be,
When I live map on the road the car is not adjusted when doing a power run unless they is something a miss.

Mark

 

Matt. It's easier to do the bulk of the mapping on a dyno but it should always be road tested after to check it's usability on the road and any final adjustments can be made to the map.

 

Yes i get that bit Mark....But i allways thought the idea of a proper live mapped car was that the map on the car got changed and adjusted under real condition`s in real time...like wind..drag downforce and other things and the map adjusted to suit the car and to get the best drive abillity from that...So my qestion is can you get the same drive abilty and smoothness on the rollers as you can on road/track.

really intesresting this because ive only ever had my cars set up on the road.


sorry for all the Q`s....Cheers Mat.

 

Ah cheers Daz thats clearing alot more up for me.

 

With experiance and a simple engine like a YB once you have done the hard work doing the main set up work and not changing the spec to some thing diff, Then 99% of the time you wont need the RR and to make it better by using a RR is slim,
I have a RR next door to me so I can check any car very easily and I didnt need to spend the 60k to buy it.

Mark

 

Thanks mark...Now thats a big saving mate...So what would be better for me then when i choose to have my cosworth mapped...A tuner with rollers or still stick with on the road...Whats best.?

 

he's a nice fella in person. misunderstood on here

 

Choose your tuner and do what he says.

Mark

 

Live map on the road just for the thrill of getting caught.....

 

Having actually met rod in person he is alright. Words get twisted on a screen

 

Ran once or twice yes but if you look at his posts other than his own thread he just seems to litter everyone elses threads with utter garbage because nobody is worthy of being a 3ft know it all like him he can fuck right off as far as im concerned !

 

Dont hold back Carlo

 

Myself i use Martin as 1. he is in Birmingham and 2. he tells you strate wots going on with your motor and you can trust martin 100% with your car

 

Or killed!!! It has happened btw!

 

tongue in cheek mate.....

fuck me if you speed in oz you get locked up.......so strict over here its insane....

And if you speed people look at you as if you did kill someone....



End of the day RR is good for base mapping but doesn't mimic real world scenarios unless you have an f1 style wind tunnel LOL

 

oh and am sure you have never done such a thing eh martin

 

All i can suggest is save uo a bit of money cause where ever it goea to get done it might need more paets to get the engine to run right.

I heard of loads of people getting there cars mapded and then saying how better there cars were after.
Well i got my cossie done a few weeks back now and its like a different car.Its quick and 100% reliable.

 

Yep sure I have but I can get most of my work done indoors now Plus it doesn't matter what the weather is doing

 

Good point.....i am looking at getting a truck and going flat out accross the desert splatting roo's with some massive bull bars LOL....

 

You'll be happy with any of the companies mentioned

 

Whats wrong with AVA then? Not the 1st post I've read with comments like that about them.

 

It does moisture in the air will affect ign the engine can run so on rainy days I dont map.

Mark

 

mark,

stop bullshitting people just because u cannot or will not afford a dyno !

martin is 100% right saying its dangerous and you as a "professional" shouldnt be telling people its ok.....

deleted the rest of my post but you might be bright enough to realize what else could be said now...

 

no, as you are busy doing topspeed runs in the wet..... another good example for the public....

 

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To be fair michael anyone who bought their own dyno when there is one next door would have to need their head examined esp if mark has a decent working relationship with them.

 

yes, fair enough mate but he is nothing like that in person - he is rather pleasant to be honest. Maybe its the MAD keyboard warrior

 

Wee man syndrome