james kiely

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over thelast couple of years since i bought g88,i have been gathering all the bits that were stripped off the car when it was broke .i bought the engine and zoo rear beam with the car .so far i have got

tko600
quaiffe big tooth box
quaiffe atb diff
3dr hubs
autronic sm4
new mongoose
new konis and spriongs
ap 7040 6 pots
ap 4 pots
full braided fuel system front to back with 044 etc
proalloy rad
radtec cooler
adjustable tca
proalloy turbo cooler
gpa water injection
newly refurbed hockenheims
the list goes

now g88 was always known as a well modded saff with all the bits ,i am seriously thinking of rebuilding it standard stage 1 270bhp as i dont think i would like to abuse it with 400/500 bhp and end up sticking it in a ditch
would i be seriously degrading the history of the car doing this ?

advice welcomed

ps ,this is not a thread to sell all my bits as they can go in my 3dr trackcar,whenever i get around to starting the rebuild .




well maybe keep the hocks

Rs(555)

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I would carry on as you are !
Fast engine , right suspension ,gearbox etc etc
Car still looks stunning either way , but they are shite at standard or low power ..
It will only go as fast as you drive it mate

james kiely

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i thought i might retire the car into standard concours ,as it would kill me should i prang it lol

Rs(555)

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Sounds like you have answered your own question then mate...
Stunning car either way

RS Grant

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Seems a waste, I'd continue to build it to the standard you were aiming for when you bought it... the great thing about this Saph was that it was taken to a great peroformance level in every area and in a minty mint almost standard looking exterior.

I think it'd be a waste to sack it all and make it a boring concours car personally.


Cheers,
Grant

james kiely

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i see what your saying grant ,but would it be a waste not to drive the car to the potential should i get it to say 450bhp,thas what im afraid of ,
im 44 now two kids a wife two cats and a dog ,and dont act the hooligan anymore lol.
i would also be able to build the 3dr track car and realise its full potential as i couldnt afford to buy all the bits to get it to the same standard with all the modded parts

Less.

I woulds tick with your you have got and build it back up, to anice package saves you building it standard and getting bored then upgrading it,use the S1 for boring concours stuff

RS Grant

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Aye I can see what you're saying, so I'd likely build it to the standard you were aiming for and substitute the turbo/cam choice with parts that will do a solid 350bhp... more than enough to enjoy, but not enough to get you into too much trouble.


Cheers,
Grant

james kiely

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all the modded bits would go into this less ,

james kiely

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ok grant i see what your saying ,i suppose still at that level the car could stay pretty stanard including box and diff etc

Less.

Ahhh then put modifeid bits in the 3/dr then, is that the Ima use to own James?

Dan F

Personally Id throw the bits at your 3dr as it look like a beast

james kiely

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no mate ,this steve scotts old group a car ,done the daddy thrashes etc ,i need to put a engine into it , i couldnt afford to do both tbh

im leaning that way myself mate

Captain500rs

Don't build it to such high power, and aim to have good reliable power at the wheels, maybe a solid 400bhp. Car will going as fast as you drive it. Why not enter it into modified concours. Good luck with what you decide, either way it is always going to be a stunning saff.

Staffi

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Agree 100% with Grant here James, mine is now 359bhp/363lb/ft and is fantastic on the road, great road manners and tbh NOT ALOT troubles me when i'm outhere, only if i came acroos Rod, or a few big bhp cossies & Evos, a ture 350-370bhp Cossie is a VERY quick car..

james kiely

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i had 380bhp in my last 4b mate and that was quick enough for me ,so 300 would probably be plenty for a 2wd especially as i live on tight twisty country roads .
it would cost very little to go the stanard route ,as i cant afford to buy all the same spec parts again,their is 10k in parts bought already for g88 and i would probably need another 2k to finish it off .

i cant make my mind up now lol

james kiely

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350/370 is bloody quick in 2wd mode pete,i was going to chase the numbers and go for 5oobhp but tbh i aint no andy gallagher mate lol

just want it reliable

opposite lock

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I personally would keep her on the standard ish side of things she looks mint . I,d concentrate on a really driveable punchy drive enough to keep the smiles but nothing too aggressive. Pleny of mint fast saphs with heavy mods out there etc 300 torque is ample in the twisty roads you have

james kiely

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thats my thinking too mate ,a nice t34.48 would be ample

nick8saff

I'm sure I remember that saff from the black country owners meet a few years ago. Was very nice then if I thinking of the right car.

massivewangers

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If you're planning on building a hardcore track car as well, I'd put the parts into that instead. If you've got that, the Saph doesn't need to be so mad that way.

To be honest, a healthy stage 3 Cossie will still mash most other stuff you'll ever come across, so hardly going to be a slow car.

Staffi

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Yeah that on 55s live mapped By Tony etc on Level 8 and you'll have a hoot of a road car James..

opposite lock

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Driveability is where its at for sure nowdays i say , i was thinking what a GT28 unit can do low down and are top power levels are similar to t34? Something different anyway to the t34 route if funds allowed i think i,d go for it personally of course .

opposite lock

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Driveability is where its at for sure nowdays i say , i was thinking what a GT28 unit can do low down and are top power levels are similar to t34? Something different anyway to the t34 route if funds allowed i think i,d go for it personally of course .
A nice mint saph with a modern feel to it be sweet

Staffi

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Aren't GT28s meant to be quite a weak Turbo iirc??

Maybe be totally wrong, just remember hearing a few horror stories on them that's all..

JamesH

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Doesn't matter what reg is on the car mate, it will be boring in standard ish spec

Staffi

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Yeah but he'll have his 500bhp 3dr for the thrill seeking days James..

JamesH

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Depends how often he can afford to use it on track I guess!

james kiely

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thats the plan pete

depends on what you want the car for james ,ive lost the rear ends on saffs at 90/100mph and it aint funny lol.
the saff is a keeper so a nice stage 1/2 for going to shows and that will do me mate .
i live 15mins form a good track so do a few trackdays a year and i will be happy,nothing serious just a bit of fun

pimp-daddy

James i have all the bolts you would need for your car zinc plated if you need them pm me.

Albino Deano

James just think if u spat yourself of the road where would u fine another clean saph that didnt need work? have the 3dr as a track toy then if u bin it u wont be happy but thats the chance u take with track toys,this is the one reason my saph isnt big power its reliable does what i want it to do and has never let me down,just couldnt replace it if it got bent.

J1mbo

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Strip g88 and sell me the cloth

Personally, put the gear into the 3door

Standard spec all the way saff with 370bhp t34.48 and 55lbs

v man

plus 1 on that jimbo

RWD_cossie_wil

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Yes you are, lad called Martin Aka Budwies off here used to own it, lovely car.

James, go for an Msd 380 conversion, T34/blacks, it will be reliable & go like stink, 2wd is much livelier than 4x4. Then sell me the TKO box please

james kiely

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spot on mate ,they are still awesome at that level

pm ,coming mark

that is really what im am afraid of mate ,if i did prang it i would never forgive myself ,the track car is just that and can be fixed should it take an excursion into the gravel lol

i thought you had sorted a nice interior jimbo ? mmm 370 seems to be where people think is the best option

100%

fook me will the 4b on a .63 was was very quick ,so how much livelier wil this be at the same power level ?

you would only break the tko wil if you got your hands on it lol

J1mbo

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Cant find one james

J1mbo

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Ps James, get a t34.48 they're so much nicer for the road, still have 380bhp with right spec too!

james kiely

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i will keep an eye out for one jimbo

when the engine was rebuilt it had a stage two [550bhp]ported head with two billet cams for a t4 which jim green never fitted jimbo,instead going for a t38 which didnt suit the cams .i dont think pete was ever very happy how it drove with this setup even though it was 440bhp

would i be better off using the this ported head head on a good 200 block and putting a standard head back on the 205 bottom end thats in g88 jimbo

RWD_cossie_wil

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I always think that the 2wd is about a tuning level above the same 4x4 cossie, ie a stage 1 2wd is as quick as a stage 3 4x4 car.

A good circa 400Bhp 2wd (standard engine, T34, intercooler, map & relevent injectors, my choice would be MSD set up) is a weapon, and will give anything on the road a good run for it's money. I would almost go so far to say that it will be faster than a T4 car for 95% of the time due to the fact that the power & torque are where you want them, not stacked all the way up the rev range.

james kiely

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Will i never thought their would be that big a difference in levels between a 2wd stage 1 and astage 3 4wd .surely their cant be 100bhp in the difference?