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Old 29-06-2011 | 09:36 PM
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Default Who's ever been done for speeding by undercover Police on a motorway? Few questions..

A few quick questions to settle an argument and generally try and work a few things out...

When you were done, was the police car in front of you or behind?

Were you travelling with a convoy of cars all doing the same speed/speeding?

And how long were you being followed for at that speed before you were pulled over?

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When you were done, was the police car in front of you or behind? M6 Toll. Was behind me. Started out quite a way back, but soon caught up

Were you travelling with a convoy of cars all doing the same speed/speeding? Nope, was just little old me.....

And how long were you being followed for at that speed before you were pulled over? About 5 or 6 minutes. I thought it was some sales rep being a dick tbh!
Old 29-06-2011 | 09:49 PM
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Not motorway - but unmarked car.

A45

About 6 Miles

40 in a 40 upto 80 in a 60

Followed behind unmarked Mondeo ST220
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Followed for a while by a undercover Omega. Was behind me. No idea for how long, as I'd have bloody well slowed down if I'd have seen it! Was with a few speeding cars, but as they pulled over, I shot off and so earmarked myself as the one to be tugged!

When you're pulled from behind it's more often than not VASCAR, which is also allowed to be done from the front. Oddly VASCAR doesn't need Type Approval like other forms of speed detection.

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Look at every under cover cop car. Reg ALWAYS start with KX. Not been caught yet
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Followed by an BMW five series estate down the motorway, she the motorway was emty , she claimed she followed behind for 3miles -lie as there was no one in my rear view mirror until 5 seconds before them what Do you no ...blue lights !!!!
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Originally Posted by scoobypete
Look at every under cover cop car. Reg ALWAYS start with KX. Not been caught yet
Thats the same round here apart from they all start with 'pn'

Cunts !

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Any wY you can't get done by them unless there behind you they can't do you if there in front cos it means if they do you for speeding then they were speeding to and obviously that would never hold up in court lol!!
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Any wY you can't get done by them unless there behind you they can't do you if there in front cos it means if they do you for speeding then they were speeding to and obviously that would never hold up in court lol!!
I do hope you're joking.
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
I do hope you're joking.
Why lol??
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Why lol??
Because its not true!
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
Because its not true!
No way!!! How could they possibly do you for speeding if they are in front?
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No way!!! How could they possibly do you for speeding if they are in front?
Via the same way they do you from behind. By hitting a switch on the Vascar over two set points. They can also do it stationary - if you've ever seem white squares painted on the roads, that's what they're for.

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http://www.pepipoo.com/files/ACPO/ACPO_extract.htm
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I see , when I got done for speeding there were no White marks on the road, that I noticed? She told me that she followed me at 87 miles per hour for 3 miles , didn't no that! But still it Dosnt seem fair to do you if they are in front as they must of been speeding to
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Have you been caught speeding simon?

Calum who helped me build the car was caught week before last on his ducati 748, he was in a little convoy on the A22.. the police car had to do 135mph to get near them = I think hes fucked!! Undercover car came past them to try and stop them all at the next roundabout but calum and a few others didnt stop and turned off before getting to them.
Then the letter dropped through the door!!

It even made bbc news apparently!
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I got caught on my gsxr by an undercover cop on a gsxr also, wearing race leathers and a hoodie on over the top!! To say he was out goding riders is a fookin understatement! I got 3 points and a fine! Cops round my way also use orange focus st's and i saw a blue evo 9 also. This is what they have resorted to, making people speed so they can nick them! Tossers!!
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Originally Posted by XRT_si
A few quick questions to settle an argument and generally try and work a few things out...

When you were done, was the police car in front of you or behind?

Were you travelling with a convoy of cars all doing the same speed/speeding?

And how long were you being followed for at that speed before you were pulled over?

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1) Infront

2) No

3) Didn't seem that long, but it doesn't usually at 100mph
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Originally Posted by scoobypete
Look at every under cover cop car. Reg ALWAYS start with KX. Not been caught yet
Not round here they don't.
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Originally Posted by Cal Jones
Thats the same round here apart from they all start with 'pn'

Cunts !
if you on facebook, click vehicle list at the left hand side, comes in handy every once and a while

http://www.facebook.com/merseysidepo...ehicles?ref=ts
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around here the ploice cars start wIth BX
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Originally Posted by mk2cossy
This is what they have resorted to, making people speed so they can nick them! Tossers!!
they didnt make you speed, you chose to take the bait. They didnt force you! Lol
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Kent police are tossers, undercover vxr's, st's and golf r32s. They deliberately tailgate people in 'fast' cars to piss them off and make them put their foot down. I've seen it done, and know people it's happened too, surely it should be illegal, especially given how dangerously some of the police drive!
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Originally Posted by Cal Jones
Thats the same round here apart from they all start with 'pn'

Cunts !
all the po po's cars in n.i. are *ez **** its a belfast reg so when your not in belfast you can spot them a mile off
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lol at the dickhead saying all Police cars start with such and such a reg. Well of course they do as they all have a modern prefix local to that area. LIKE ALL OTHER CARS!
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Originally Posted by mk2cossy
I got caught on my gsxr by an undercover cop on a gsxr also, wearing race leathers and a hoodie on over the top!! To say he was out goding riders is a fookin understatement!
you bit and willingly sped. your fault.
Originally Posted by Cal Jones
But still it Dosnt seem fair to do you if they are in front as they must of been speeding to
cops are and always have been allowed to speed to pursue offenders how else would they ever catch people????
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They deliberately tailgate people in 'fast' cars to piss them off and make them put their foot down.
if they were dangerously tailgating then surely it would show up on the evidential video presented to court??

what does the highway code say about dealing with tailgaters??

oh yeah it does NOT say speed up and break the speed limit does it
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lol at the dickhead saying all Police cars start with such and such a reg. Well of course they do as they all have a modern prefix local to that area. LIKE ALL OTHER CARS!
exactly plus its quite likely the local force will have a contract to supply vehicles from one dealer via the preferential manufacturer so of course they would have same prefix.
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I think undercover cop cars shouldnt be aloud,there sneaky fookers.
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i think we need lots MORE undercover cop cars.

Its simple really, people behave when they know the cops are around hence they wont catch anyone in marked cars.

hence you need undercover cars.

BUT

the police need to refocus their efforts from revenue earning policing eg minor speeding to refocus it on the kind of antisocial driving that creates the most hazards and actually causes the majority of problems on our main roads, such as tailgating, swerving between lanes, not using indicators, middle lane morons, etc etc etc.

legislation exists to allow them to prosecute all those bad drivers albeit it isnt as simple as a FPN for speeding. Lots of them require careless driving or dangerous driving which requires different balance of proof and evidence plus often ends up in court where as most FPN's for speeding dont.

mght cost more money in policing and prosecution but those are the drivers who cause more accidents, hold up the motorways and generally cause the most carnage.
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Warren the police need to concentrate on getting the more important parts of their job correct first like catching real criminals. Rapists, Murderers, Pedophiles etc etc.

Problem is they dont make any money from doing that which is why they concentrate on speeding vehicles.

Its bollocks. How many years has the speed limit been 30 and 70?

Technological advances in car safety, Braking, etc etc have been massive but no increase in the speed limit!
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your missing the point.

traffic cops are tasked to mostly do traffic work. Only recently are some used for other major crime work. so no you cannot use the arguement that the traffic cops should be focusing on other crimes as thats not their job

but they should be focusing like i said on the real traffic crimes that cause real problems. minor speeding is not one of those.
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I agree. I just see a lot of money being spent on evo 9s and subarus etc to catch speeding drivers.

The money should be spent elsewhere first in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by mk2cossy
I got caught on my gsxr by an undercover cop on a gsxr also, wearing race leathers and a hoodie on over the top!! To say he was out goding riders is a fookin understatement! I got 3 points and a fine! Cops round my way also use orange focus st's and i saw a blue evo 9 also. This is what they have resorted to, making people speed so they can nick them! Tossers!!
It anoys me the way they care so much About people going bait fast on the motorway , don't get me wrong I'm in for 30 mph speed limits as if a child ran out you would never forgive yourself if you were speeding , buy on the motorway doing 80 should be aloud I think !
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Originally Posted by MikeyRobbo
if you on facebook, click vehicle list at the left hand side, comes in handy every once and a while

http://www.facebook.com/merseysidepo...ehicles?ref=ts
This is very handy is there no way of adding more to the list myself as i know a few more lol
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Originally Posted by Ebonycossie4x4
Warren the police need to concentrate on getting the more important parts of their job correct first like catching real criminals. Rapists, Murderers, Pedophiles etc etc.

Problem is they dont make any money from doing that which is why they concentrate on speeding vehicles.

Its bollocks. How many years has the speed limit been 30 and 70?

Technological advances in car safety, Braking, etc etc have been massive but no increase in the speed limit!
I couldn't agree more with this as my little 13 year old brother and his friend have both recently been a victim of a pedo, this pedo was know to the pollice for 12 previous pedo ofensises, he was out on bail , lives in Kent and we live in Liverpool , that is 4 and a half hours from were we liv, he came down here 5 times , what were the police doing ? Probly floating round in there Evo 9 thinking there boss pulling people over for holding apples whilst driving, this Dosnt half get to you !
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again cal your missng the point. Those traffic cops are tasked with traffic related duties. their job is not to go hunting pedo's.

And with pedo's you could throw Ł100 million at the police on that issue and it would make little difference as their hands are tied by the pathetic laws of this country and the human rights of criminals.

Technically its everyones human rights but being a government agency they have to be seen protecting the human rights of the public they deal with, who most of the time in custody are generally criminals hence protecting criminal human rights.
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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
again cal your missng the point. Those traffic cops are tasked with traffic related duties. their job is not to go hunting pedo's.

And with pedo's you could throw Ł100 million at the police on that issue and it would make little difference as their hands are tied by the pathetic laws of this country and the human rights of criminals.

Technically its everyones human rights but being a government agency they have to be seen protecting the human rights of the public they deal with, who most of the time in custody are generally criminals hence protecting criminal human rights.
I see were your coming from mate I just wanted some one to blame for what happend lol they do a god job some times ( when they are not doing you ) haha
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Originally Posted by mk2cossy
a This is what they have resorted to, making people speed so they can nick them! Tossers!!
Did they force you at gun point to speed or maybe torture. You were speeding take it like a man & remember its you that looked the tosser not them.
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I see were your coming from mate I just wanted some one to blame for what happend lol they do a god job some times ( when they are not doing you ) haha
ahhh like many other victims of crime or victims of "accidents" etc. why not blame the real person responsible.

on a seperate note that anger based blame reaction is precisely why our legal and insurance systems are sooo fucked up by no win no fee bollocks. they pander to your anger.
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Did they force you at gun point to speed or maybe torture. You were speeding take it like a man & remember its you that looked the tosser not them.
exactly. As said earlier, the highway code does not say speed up if your being tailgated, it says the exact opposite. You should reduce speed and open the gap in front.....

although i would love someone to brake test a tailgating copper so the copper has to explain in court why he was driving dangerously close to the rear of a vehicle and hence hit him. Would prove a point nicely i think.
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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
ahhh like many other victims of crime or victims of "accidents" etc. why not blame the real person responsible.

on a seperate note that anger based blame reaction is precisely why our legal and insurance systems are sooo fucked up by no win no fee bollocks. they pander to your anger.


exactly. As said earlier, the highway code does not say speed up if your being tailgated, it says the exact opposite. You should reduce speed and open the gap in front.....

although i would love someone to brake test a tailgating copper so the copper has to explain in court why he was driving dangerously close to the rear of a vehicle and hence hit him. Would prove a point nicely i think.
I know what you mean, and obviously I blame the person responsible, but at the same time I can't help but feel that the plod should of been watching some one like that lol ? And are you a member of the police by any chance ? You speak very highly of them not meaning to cause ofence or anything
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no im not in the police

i just know enough about the system to know it doesnt work like a lot of people think. eg registered sex offenders number 32000, actual number of paedos in the uk suspected to be near 300000.

Its not practical to have full time supervision of all registered offenders let alone suspected ones.....


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