Ladies and Gentlemen...I bring you 779BHP (pics)
14-02-2005, 09:19 AM
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Kev,
How the fuck do you extrapolate MY story to come up with that
?
I was just referring to some "claimed" figures that were "claimed" by people that "should" know better
.
Dave,
I hope you DO take gearing into account 
. You of all people should know how much more accelerative this can make a car .
How the fuck do you extrapolate MY story to come up with that
?I was just referring to some "claimed" figures that were "claimed" by people that "should" know better
.Dave,
I hope you DO take gearing into account
. You of all people should know how much more accelerative this can make a car .
14-02-2005, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Kev,
How the fuck do you extrapolate MY story to come up with that ?
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How the fuck do you extrapolate MY story to come up with that
?).
Was just checking you hadnt lost touch of reality and thought all the wins for Godfrey engines have werent just luck
14-02-2005, 03:04 PM
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Julian Godfrey is certainly no faker!!!
Mikes tuner..."nope cant be done"...a world class tuner "yes it can be"
Did you know Mike that dinosaurs are now extinct?
Mikes tuner..."nope cant be done"...a world class tuner "yes it can be"
Did you know Mike that dinosaurs are now extinct?
14-02-2005, 03:26 PM
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Phil,
As you obviously don't understand English I will elaborate YET again.
YOU CANNOT COMPARE A RALLY-CROSS CARS GEARED FOR 135MPH TOPS, RUNNING ON 102RON FUEL WITH ROAD CARS GEARED FOR 180+MPH RUNNING ON 97RON FUEL
.
As you seem to not get this concept, please stop NOW.
IF I was prepared to run higher octane fuel then I would consider going high c/r, but that would be an expensive way to run a car IMO.
I'm not trying to tell you what to do, as I couldn't give a flying fuck, I'm just explaining MY choices.
As you obviously don't understand English I will elaborate YET again.
YOU CANNOT COMPARE A RALLY-CROSS CARS GEARED FOR 135MPH TOPS, RUNNING ON 102RON FUEL WITH ROAD CARS GEARED FOR 180+MPH RUNNING ON 97RON FUEL
.As you seem to not get this concept, please stop NOW
. IF I was prepared to run higher octane fuel then I would consider going high c/r, but that would be an expensive way to run a car IMO.
I'm not trying to tell you what to do, as I couldn't give a flying fuck
, I'm just explaining MY choices.
14-02-2005, 03:30 PM
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Mike you know fook all about my specs and what the car is gonna be used for YES on a speed run high octane will have to be run @ max BHP.
The rallycross cars are far more abused than a road car is so i stick with my plans thanks...maybe you should TRY to understand.
YES on a speed run high octane will have to be run @ max BHP.The rallycross cars are far more abused than a road car is so i stick with my plans thanks...maybe you should TRY to understand.
14-02-2005, 03:57 PM
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Mike how can they be geared for 125mph but get to 135mph...and please bear in mind these cars are up to 9.2-1...a bit different from my extreme lo comp compared!...I doubt a bean tin can get there in the amount of space these babies can on gravel ..Always on the limiter now thats ABUSE.
..Always on the limiter now thats ABUSE.
14-02-2005, 03:58 PM
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Mike so a 750 bhp rallycross engine doesnt get worked hard now they r racing its not driving miss daisy you know
ps Karl no doubting your ability
but surely you respect someone like Julian ?
they r racing its not driving miss daisy you know ps Karl no doubting your ability
but surely you respect someone like Julian ?
14-02-2005, 04:45 PM
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Benn,
No idea what you are talking about.
Kev / Phil / Benn,
If none of you can understand that the loads put on an engine at 180+mph are greater than doing short / constant acceleration bursts for a few miles at a time, then you don't have the intelligence I credited you with. These rally-cross cars do not spend long enough at ANY constant revs for load / det / build-up of cylinder pressures to be an issue .
Building a race engine with a finite life of a few hundred miles per season is a piece of piss (and I don't mean that disrespectfully, as Julian IS Mr Rally-cross
). But put a rally-cross engine in a road car with road gearing and see how long it lasts if you think it is that simple .
No idea what you are talking about
.Kev / Phil / Benn,
If none of you can understand that the loads put on an engine at 180+mph are greater than doing short / constant acceleration bursts for a few miles at a time, then you don't have the intelligence I credited you with
. These rally-cross cars do not spend long enough at ANY constant revs for load / det / build-up of cylinder pressures to be an issue . Building a race engine with a finite life of a few hundred miles per season is a piece of piss (and I don't mean that disrespectfully, as Julian IS Mr Rally-cross
). But put a rally-cross engine in a road car with road gearing and see how long it lasts if you think it is that simple .
14-02-2005, 04:52 PM
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But put a rally-cross engine in a road car with road gearing and see how long it lasts if you think it is that simple
These rally-cross cars do not spend long enough at ANY constant revs for load / det / build-up of cylinder pressures to be an issue
If none of you can understand that the loads put on an engine at 180+mph are greater than doing short / constant acceleration bursts for a few miles at a time, then you don't have the intelligence I credited you with
14-02-2005, 05:01 PM
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The problem with high CR and massive speeds is going to be that there is a massive amount of cylinder pressure, and due to the very limited amount of acceleration that the engine can undergo at 190mph (those last few mph will take forever) it means having LONG periods of times where you have a really nasty hot flame front colliding with a piston that just cant get out of the way quick enough.
You dont get that in rally cross where the rpm is up and down like phils mouth on a punter's cock.
There is a different between the type of loads experienced, and therefore what works for one wont always work for the other.
You dont get that in rally cross where the rpm is up and down like phils mouth on a punter's cock.
There is a different between the type of loads experienced, and therefore what works for one wont always work for the other.
14-02-2005, 05:03 PM
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Phil you would do well (IMHO) to listen to people who have used their engine in the manner in which you intend to use yours, im not saying that the rallycross boys dont know how to build an engine, but i am saying they dont have experience of what will happen to that engine under a CONSTANT full boost / full throttle / high rpm charge up brunters.
Phil you would do well (IMHO) to listen to people who have used their engine in the manner in which you intend to use yours, im not saying that the rallycross boys dont know how to build an engine, but i am saying they dont have experience of what will happen to that engine under a CONSTANT full boost / full throttle / high rpm charge up brunters.
14-02-2005, 05:07 PM
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if boschman thinks that madrod his record is not legal because of the NOS.....then the record from martin hadland is not legal also.....because its not a cosworth engine he used...its a millington engine.....
14-02-2005, 05:12 PM
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up and down like phils mouth on a punter's cock
Phil, those of us making suggestions to you here arent arguing for fun, we are trying to help you avoid this all ending in tears
Seriously if you and everyone are so good with this kinda thing why the fuck dont you do it for a living? Oh PS no one even knows the specification,so less of the patronising you dont have to worry bout me!...
14-02-2005, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by wimwerf
if boschman thinks that madrod his record is not legal because of the NOS.....then the record from martin hadland is not legal also.....because its not a cosworth engine he used...its a millington engine.....
If in the future you was hurt and to say you (ie your head/brain) they had to fit it to a donor body, your still YOU arnt you? So why isnt a martins engine?
What about all these people who use 202 blocks? Are they not using Cossie engines anymore? They all using Transit Van ones then?
14-02-2005, 05:13 PM
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because its not a cosworth engine he used...its a millington engine.....
i'd forgotten about that!!!
Sorry Martin your record is void too..as said it aint even a Cosworth engine!!!!! 
14-02-2005, 05:17 PM
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Its a YB head tho.
If in the future you was hurt and to say you (ie your head/brain) they had to fit it to a donor body, your still YOU arnt you? So why isnt a martins engine?
What about all these people who use 202 blocks? Are they not using Cossie engines anymore? They all using Transit Van ones then?
If in the future you was hurt and to say you (ie your head/brain) they had to fit it to a donor body, your still YOU arnt you? So why isnt a martins engine?
What about all these people who use 202 blocks? Are they not using Cossie engines anymore? They all using Transit Van ones then?
Steve comparing a human being to a car is just soooo dumb,how many times has another head sussefully been mounted to a new body?
The 202 block is a FORD block like the 2wd using the cortina block!!!!
14-02-2005, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Bosch Man
Seriously if you and everyone are so good with this kinda thing why the fuck dont you do it for a living?
Because at the moment I am enjoying building engines for myself and it being a fun hobby, but if i did it for a living then i would instead have to deal with people like yourself and wouldnt be able to do what i do now and just ignore you once ive had enough.
Plus i wouldnt make as much money probably as i do at the moment TBH.
14-02-2005, 05:25 PM
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instead have to deal with people like yourself
Eh...no you wouldnt as i dont deal with anyone thats posts here regulary or at all even!They are the pros as they are too busy for internet bollocks so you get proper advice
14-02-2005, 05:26 PM
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Is your other parts made by FORD? Your manifolds? Internals? etc etc. No. So what difference it make if the bloody block is.
IMO YB head, YB engine. ITs the way its ALWAYS been.
Warrior headed Pintos they dont call pintos anymore as they dont have a pinto head.
CVH headed zetecs they dont call Zetecs cause they aint got a Zetec head.
But Millington blocked YBs (and Holden blocked RBs, and im sure i can think of more) are called what they always were.
If its got the head, its that engine. The End.
And dont forget Phil, just cause YOU disagree that makes no odds, its just the way it is, the accepted way, democracy, 1 person disagreeing with 1000s dont get anywhere.
IMO YB head, YB engine. ITs the way its ALWAYS been.
Warrior headed Pintos they dont call pintos anymore as they dont have a pinto head.
CVH headed zetecs they dont call Zetecs cause they aint got a Zetec head.
But Millington blocked YBs (and Holden blocked RBs, and im sure i can think of more) are called what they always were.
If its got the head, its that engine. The End.
And dont forget Phil, just cause YOU disagree that makes no odds, its just the way it is, the accepted way, democracy, 1 person disagreeing with 1000s dont get anywhere.
14-02-2005, 05:32 PM
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Is your other parts made by FORD? Your manifolds? Internals? etc etc. No.
I cannot say......
you BASTID...i just gotta bite my tongue!
And dont forget Phil, just cause YOU disagree that makes no odds, its just the way it is, the accepted way, democracy, 1 person disagreeing with 1000s dont get anywhere
14-02-2005, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by capri-rs
what about the pikes peak rs200.surely it was driven like a rally-x car.it lasted to the top.can´t remember who built the engine.
14-02-2005, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Bosch Man
instead have to deal with people like yourself
Eh...no you wouldnt as i dont deal with anyone thats posts here regulary or at all even!They are the pros as they are too busy for internet bollocks so you get proper advice
You and mark have already said that is exactly what you did with him, i cant be arse to dig out the thread but im sure you remember anyway, opr do you just forget everything moment you have typed it?
14-02-2005, 06:18 PM
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Chip 3-dr..why would i blame anyone..i have never had a failure which was blamed on someone else except the advice to use std head bolts on T4 running 32psi!!!!!!.....I was fooking stupid to listen to such poor advice...every other person said noooooooooooooo. 
Its funny you even think i'd do that Why the fook you think i am DIY..so i only have myself to blame.
Yes Mark is happy with the way i am doin the spec as its a budget engine rather than a balls out one which tuners would have to do because they have to warranty it.............
I have come to the conclusion that you are just a sheep and following everyone else..as tbh you dont know me as you only been on here a few weeks...please bare in mind people that have a pop at me are just bitter for some bizarre reason.....be yourself not everyone else.
Its funny you even think i'd do that Why the fook you think i am DIY..so i only have myself to blame.Yes Mark is happy with the way i am doin the spec as its a budget engine rather than a balls out one which tuners would have to do because they have to warranty it.............
I have come to the conclusion that you are just a sheep and following everyone else..as tbh you dont know me as you only been on here a few weeks...please bare in mind people that have a pop at me are just bitter for some bizarre reason.....be yourself not everyone else.
14-02-2005, 08:58 PM
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Phil, if there is one thing i dont EVER do its jump on bandwagon's, any opinion i have of you (rightly or wrongly) is entirely my own and not based on anything anyone else says (not that anyone has ever bothered to mention you to me anyway TBH, why would they?)
15-02-2005, 07:38 AM
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Phil,
So given that JG runs 9.2:1 for a 500bhp road car, does that mean that your engine will be 9.2:1 or 9:1 or even 8.7:1 for your 600+bhp road car?
I think I already know the answer to that - "No". And why is that? Because you're not as stupid as you look (thankfully ) .
IF it is so safe to run that kind of c/r - why aren't YOU?
So given that JG runs 9.2:1 for a 500bhp road car, does that mean that your engine will be 9.2:1 or 9:1 or even 8.7:1 for your 600+bhp road car?
I think I already know the answer to that - "No". And why is that?
Because you're not as stupid as you look (thankfully ) .IF it is so safe to run that kind of c/r - why aren't YOU?
15-02-2005, 09:58 AM
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LOL @ Phil..........
What makes me laugh is I told you I use std head bolts.
Surely you did'nt go this route based on what I do, as you have no idea what spec components are used with this setup?
How did you expect just that snippet of info to be of any use to you?
It's a bit like saying I use GT40 turbos and then blaming me your engine has blown up as you've used one and your engine could'nt take it.
By trying to use any of my info, you leav yourself open to failure as you need to know a lot more about building engines than just one particular component!!!
What makes me laugh is I told you I use std head bolts.
Surely you did'nt go this route based on what I do, as you have no idea what spec components are used with this setup?
How did you expect just that snippet of info to be of any use to you?
It's a bit like saying I use GT40 turbos and then blaming me your engine has blown up as you've used one and your engine could'nt take it.
By trying to use any of my info, you leav yourself open to failure as you need to know a lot more about building engines than just one particular component!!!