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Old 08-02-2005, 05:32 PM
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Default How much to build a 650bhp to 700bhp engine?

Out of pure interest if one was to go to a tuner..i take it only a very few would do it......

I got quoted 30k for a 700 plus YB (outright)

I think i heard Karl mention it wasnt worth it and would be nearer 50k????

Any input for the Scandanavians would be interesting
Old 08-02-2005, 05:34 PM
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Well I'm pretty sure Martin would build one for less than 30k.... although I doubt he would build YOU one

If I was you Phil, I would buy Seans engine. Thats 700bhp capable and would be alot less than 30k
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spare a few hundred for the dyno
Old 08-02-2005, 05:38 PM
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Are you having a dig at me, Martin, Karl or Sean?
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Porkie......so is my one currently ..and i can say by doin things yourself with help from mates for parts.....this is gonna be a comparatively cheap monster powered YB ...If it goes tits up i will see what failed and start again Its now my ambition to produce an engine to rival the top pro's although only having a turbo capable of upto 700bhp is a bit gay
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who is that aimed for lee?

i thought you would know me better by now
Old 08-02-2005, 05:51 PM
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@bosch-man.....build a fooking engine...and dont ask a lot.....

or are you that unsure.....

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Old 08-02-2005, 05:54 PM
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I was quoted approximatly that price aswell.
The same spec as Dermot carnegies car roughly.
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@bosch-man.....build a fooking engine...and dont ask a lot.....

or are you that unsure
Can we have a translator here please?
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Originally Posted by Bosch Man
@bosch-man.....build a fooking engine...and dont ask a lot.....

or are you that unsure
Can we have a translator here please?
is my english that bad.....
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IMA
I thought you were building a 600+ bhp YB mate????

so surely you should know!!??

I'm expecting to see BIG things of this mate.

Ever since i been visiting this site and posting, i keep seeing snippets
of what your doing,,,,, whens it happening?????
Old 08-02-2005, 06:12 PM
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anyone that spends that much for a cossy engine needs there head tested and all just to be in the in gang pmsl

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Hey this is NOT for me....its a general question...i KNOW how much its costing me!........I am interested in how people arrive at large sums like 30k plus...but fully justified i guess cause what production car comes with 700bhp and what would it cost!

Hence NO ONE will ever know my full spec,well one person will know most of it (trusting him not to tell a soul!).......at this level secrecy is the word....

Estimated time for finish is whenever i can be arsed to put it all together after getting all the bits...fairly closish to having everything...will most prob wait till it warms up a tad.
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If its who i think it is, i will have to ask and see if he tells me as im going down there soon for a chat
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I think Jenspeed will be one of the cheapest when it comes to 650-700 bhp engines.
But you should really call him regarding a quote..
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lol i take it running gear is in that 30k+ is it lol

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mines alot cheaper then 30k
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What i dont really get is why youd bother with 650-700bhp if its costing you that kind of cash.

Its not like theres any regulations saying you cant have another engine, and if you want that sort of power you probly got the wrong car.

Seems to me most people do this to say they have the fastest or most powerful cossie, not genuinley for the fun or performance.

Bit sad when you think about it.
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Using all the best bits I cant see you being able to spend more than 23k.

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hey phil, are you building a big power engine??? didnt know that mate you should have said in all honestly i've never known someone go on as much about summit as you, every second post is the same subject but just titled differently, the general jist of all your posts go

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either that or your slagging people off!

ffs change the subject, your more predictable than an england penalty shootout
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madevelopments,,

A genuine question as no one knows or is saying .... How much is an SM4 retail supply only please ??
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Originally Posted by the strut brace

ffs change the subject, your more predictable than an england penalty shootout

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The haters are out...LONG LIVE THE HATERS.....you are my fuel...and 120ron at that..PMSL



Lets be honest the most important person in my life is ME and my YB...so if you dont like it...dont read about it...
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Simon price not set in stone yet but it will be very close to SM2 but not above it.

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madevelopments, Thanks
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I'm quite interested in this answer really, dont see why people open the posts by bosch man if they don't like what he puts
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Originally Posted by SECS
madevelopments,,

A genuine question as no one knows or is saying .... How much is an SM4 retail supply only please ??
why si do you want one and why dont you reply to my text mate
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space hoppers, JJ, I did reply - will send it again !
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Originally Posted by Bosch Man
The haters are out...LONG LIVE THE HATERS.....you are my fuel...and 120ron at that..PMSL



Lets be honest the most important person in my life is ME and my YB...so if you dont like it...dont read about it...
phil if the most important person in your life is an engine then that explains a lot,

just get on and build the fooker, its not like its never been done before, yeah its impressive but rods beaten you to it mate, along with plenty of others, all you will ever be is sloppy seconds,i get the feeling you want everyone to look up to you like you are a god coz you spout more shite about big turbo's and big bhp than a mcdonalds carpark full of chavs,nobody gives a fuck man! you are the most attention seeking fooka i have ever experianced, and the best of it is YOU are doing fuck all apart from opening a cheque book, your not even going to do the top speed runs , if you want respect and adulation,

EARN IT

the respect and honours go to the people whose expertise make these engines happen , not the people who pay for them,

coz at the minute 99% of this board think your a total plank
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But I bet you could do one on the cheap for about 10k but then it wont have the drivabitly, reliablity, and be a compramise is a few area's,
I do think Phil will achive his goals hopefully on the first go as the second means the first ended in a pile of smoke at the end of Brunters, Then the costs realy start to add up.

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Originally Posted by madevelopments
But I bet you could do one on the cheap for about 10k but then it wont have the drivabitly, reliablity, and be a compramise is a few area's,
I do think Phil will achive his goals hopefully on the first go as the second means the first ended in a pile of smoke at the end of Brunters, Then the costs realy start to add up.

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NO MARK, YOU will achieve phils goals
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Originally Posted by the strut brace
Originally Posted by madevelopments
But I bet you could do one on the cheap for about 10k but then it wont have the drivabitly, reliablity, and be a compramise is a few area's,
I do think Phil will achive his goals hopefully on the first go as the second means the first ended in a pile of smoke at the end of Brunters, Then the costs realy start to add up.

Mark
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Other than the Ecu and a couple of things Phil is doing this his own way and he wont listen to me.

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arofpmsl at that, that says it all, mark shead is a legend in the tuning scene, always been on top of your game and built some of the most well known and fastest cars out there,


and phil wont listen to you

that really does say it all for me, take his money and run mate


s.e.c.s i feel for you mate, you are free , how does it feel

heres to phil and his heinz mismatch motor that will never be seen
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fook knows how much mine is gonna cost
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Originally Posted by the strut brace
arofpmsl at that, that says it all, mark shead is a legend in the tuning scene, always been on top of your game and built some of the most well known and fastest cars out there,


and phil wont listen to you

that really does say it all for me, take his money and run mate


s.e.c.s i feel for you mate, you are free , how does it feel

heres to phil and his heinz mismatch motor that will never be seen
But It may just work after all he only whats to do it once for max speed,
Time will tell but I am sure he will prob get very close to his goals.

Mark
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Bosch Man,

how long before your car is gonna be up and running to full spec
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lets not turn this into a slagging match again hey guys
strut brace i do see where your coming from , but i also hope this will end up with actual figures and that phil proves a point about diy builds . even if phil does bring the haters out the woodwork
good luck phillis
when youv given up your project do you fancy sellin me some of your old engine bits
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If anyone cares my is running a realistic 450bhp and including the T4 at a cost of 1k from PJ the engine cost me 2.5k all in.. (new block pistons etc)Head already ported when i got the car mind!!

I did save costs though i used me m8s 2nd hand cometic head gasket and we built it in my garage on a saterday morning
Done 4k so far on the re-build

I ranted the shit out of it the afternoon and she don't wanna blow
I suppose i could just tell everyone it cost me 10k and its a top secret spec
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surely the cost is directly proportional to the amount of time your engine will last!

for £7k it will probably make 650-750 once £12k probably 20 times etc

and have you added your labour cost into the equation???? as it must be done to make it equal !

i do not know what the engine builders on here charge but i would hazard a guess at £40 an hour, to build any race engine properly there will be numerous dry builds so you are probably looking just on assembly/dissambly 15hours, now even if you charged yourself at £20 an hour as a first time builder you will probably take 3to4 times longer that a reputable engine builder, therefore you will be in fact more expensive!!
The problem is most home builders DO NOT build an engine properly, they take short cuts and then cannot work out how an engine builder can justify his prices, most home engine builders do not dry build an engine, they put it togethor and hope it works.....'yeah that misses, it must be fine or its a bit tight but will loosen up once its run'

I am not criticising, just pointing out the facts...........by all means build the engine yourself...but when people on here with a proven reputation in cosworth yb engine building start offering you free advice........dude fookin take it!!!!!!!!!



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Originally Posted by Dan_L
I'm quite interested in this answer really, dont see why people open the posts by bosch man if they don't like what he puts
morbid curiosity and a childhood love of the chuckle brothers - to me....


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