RS Grant

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I was looking through Edition38 Classifieds and saw a few of these for sale.. I have always been a fan of how a Big Bumper MK2 Golf GTi looks, so with the VAG 1.8 Turbo and c250bhp engine it should be a plenty quick enough and pretty reliable I'd have thought.

Something like this looks amazing:

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/2713352.htm



Has anyone on here owned or had any experience with one of these?? What are they like to live with??


Cheers,
Grant

zippyobrien

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My mates got one and it is lovely.

That one seems dear though. His owes him 3.5 k and he converted it him self using the q peng bits.

MO' BENT RIMS

my mate had one and sold it it kept giving him problems. then my cousin bought one a 8v though and the headgasket had probs .. along woth a few others so he sold that ill show a pic if you like. thing is the bonnets open lol

Lambchop

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That golf is the bollocks

hynes67

i got a mk2 golf gti im doing a 2.8vr6 conversion (sleeper) to it i was going to do a 1.8t but there more power in a 2.8vr6 180bhp to the 1.8t 150bhp
and when im done il have 220/230bhp

also heard there can be alot of problems with the 1.8t??

DanW@FastFord

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It's a lot easier and cheaper to extract more power out of the 1.8T, plus it's a lighter engine, so the handling's better balanced.

If you havent already started I suggest you reconsider!

MO' BENT RIMS

the 1.8 is easier to tune and quite strong. vr6 sounds good and goes well but are less tunable whereeas 1.8t you could get more power for less ... none of them are my things but alot of my mates are into it and done the 1.8t conversion.. also done a 4wd mk2 running 400bhp but it didnt last

MO' BENT RIMS

drop a s3 lump

hynes67

cheaper where u buying parts from???
iv looked into this for about 6mth before i started 70% done. and it will PISS all over 1.8t

simo2k2000

Ita easy enough to get the 1.8t to 225bhp as that's what the s3 and TT came with as standard. Rather have that than the old thirsty vr6

DanW@FastFord

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You serious??? You've looked into this for 6 months and still think you can get more power from a VR6?? Does the face that the 1.8t comes with more power than the VR6 as standard not ring any alarm bells. You can easily get well over 200bhp with just a remap and breathing mods, but to get that kind of power from a VR6 requires very expensive turbo or supercharging.

I really rate the VR6 engine, it's a peach - but in a Mk2 a 1.8T is a way better bet. I've been in Golfs with both engines, and other than the sound and lowdown grunt, I can't think of a single reason to pick it over the 20v engine.

Fiddy

Wennys mate used to have one that looked very similar to that one, was a nice thing

vaughant

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1.8t is the right engine IMO for a mk2,imagine that out of the factory in the early 90`s,would have been the bollocks!!
There`s a slightly unfinished 1.8t mk2 over on retro rides for £3k odd which looks standard and a VR6 mk2 in Dundee funnily enough for £1850 which sounds a bargain IMO.

RS SHORTIE

My mk4 with stage 1 remap was on par with my mates mk2 vr6.For around 1k you can get a 1.8t from 150-230bhp

The 1.8t is cheaper for further bhp over the vr6 conversion.

rs dub

unfortunately you havnt looked hard enough then.i have owned golfs since1978.my 1st being one of the original lhd mk1 gti .ive owned nearly every incarnation of engine swaps in a mk1 even a vr6 lump.as dan said the 20v is way superior to the vr6
did actually seriously look at buying this one on edition38.always wanted a rhd converted rallye and this one had a 20v and 4x4


http://www.edition38.com/forums/inde...owtopic=374712

GVK.

If the VR6 isn't fast enough, turbo it!

Glenn_

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Nice car.

BigJim19

been considering a mk2 20vT for a daily for a while now......

there's a couple of nice ones on E38 but also a fair few rough ones....

Johnny Knoxville

One hell of a Mk2 Golf with a 20v Turbo in it

http://www.youtube.com/user/JNLRacin.../1/b4x4YIoZS1A

750+ bhp form this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYAxDV3wJ5I

800+ WHP as said on the vid

danneth

its not very often dan.mac is right, but i wouldn't argue on this one as he is

Robs Frst

Nice cars the mk2 with this conversion, got a mate who has fitted a bam engine so 225bhp out from the box, goes pretty well.

doctor stavros

fuck me 7k though????

furry

this is a mates s3 powered 4wd mk2
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mk2-Golf-Gti-O...-/170618001680
and this is another mates 20v turbo demolishing my old type R at the ring
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya1I5p9DmPo

Martin-Hadland

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Hahahahaha!! Just spat my coffee all over the place I don't know where you were looking into for the 6 months but I'm thinking it was down a hole at the bottom of your garden rather than the net!!

1.9 xr2 on 40's

i have a nice running driving leon cupra for a grand
if anybody wants to build 1, same as a golf but 180 from the box and remapped to 210

doctor stavros

more info? pics?

RS 5tu

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Carnt beat a good 20v turbo ide bin the KO turbos tho.
As people have said VR6 are good but to get more power from is just too expensive

I plan on turboing my corrado (KR) soon 16vT have G60 management already so should be pretty simple gonna get some audi S2 pistons for my KR or use my 2.0 2e with a KR head since i have a few spairs hanging around :P

1.9 xr2 on 40's

you are 6+hours away mate

PT

I bought that off him. Bought and sold it for 3k. Went well for what it was and what I paid. (Although could have killed me as the bottom of the steering column wasnt fixed properly and fell off during a trackday, luckily I was refuelling at dinner time but had been canning it all day!) Had a chipped AGU 1.8t out of golf gti mk4. Had more fun out of it than my esc cos and focus RS combined. Love another.







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YVagvDKu9w

twoblacklines

You can get 400hp on standard internals on a standard 12v vr6 with a turbo setup. Doesnt have to cost alot either, custom piping, sapphire cossy FMIC, something like a 2nd hand T34 would do the job! Megasquirt is £500 ?

QplateRST!

I have a 1.8t Audi s3 as my daily driver and it is by far the best car I've had up to now!! Reliable and nippy !
Ran a 13.9 1/4 at pod with just a remap!!

DanW@FastFord

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You make it sound so easy.

IMO you would be mental to go chasing big bhp from a VR6 rather than from a 1.8T. The VR is a really nice engine, but the 1.8 is better for both tuning, fitting, and crucially handling.

gingeRS

how much to convert in bits, i have a focus RS and 1.8T gti as my daily runner, if i buy a house this year i'm gonna get a diesel and sell the RS, would like to know if the golf would be worth keeping to strip for a project mk1 or mk2?

is it a straight forward swap??

mobb-black

It's pretty much nut and bolt swap. The thing people forget is that there's about 17 different types of 20vT, all with different power outputs and comp ratios. There are big valve heads and small valve heads, drive by wire throttles and cable throttles. Then there's some with VVt and some without.

You have to know you're engines and know what your buying. The 150bhp engines don't take much boost before they start melting pistons as they have a high comp ratio. Similarly the 225 engines are low comp, reinforced block, bigger oil pumps, twin intercoolers, etc etc. If your going to convert like I did make sure you get a high bhp lump to start with. Like most conversions its management thats the issue.

gingeRS

mine is the AUM engine IIRC thats the one with the larger turbo and the VVT (unsure whetehr thats a good thing)

wouldnt need much power in a mk1 though....and the car owes me very little. its really tidy so gonna be worth £1000 in parts alone without the engine

mobb-black

I tried to keep things simple with my Ibiza. BAM 225 engine on Omex, but converted to run a cable throttle body. It's never been RR'd but I'm guessing in the region of 250 - 260 by the time it has stainless, filter and a good map.

fezzajsy

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mk2 20vt are awesome ride,mates got one n its an animal



a turbo'd vr6--400bhp

Willis1989

I was thinking about just buying a MK4 1.8T, will I get a decent one for under 3 grand?

vaughant

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You should get a minter for under £3k as there's so many of them about.they will need a chip/remap though as their dire with 150bhp,but go to 180-190 with ease and no further mods.
Good cars,but the gearbox is the weak point,gets tight on the downchange and that means a new diff,although apparently it can be done for £250-300 then it's sorted.

Mint FRST

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Mine may be up for grabs soon...

AUM engine car, so has K03s and VVT.

Custom code remap, forge recirc valve and pipercross panel filter.

I have do 50k virtually faultless miles in it (1No snapped suspension spring) in just over 3 years.



Great car IMO. Yes they aint the quickest, and dont handle as good as others but they are built well and touch wood has been reliable.