i thought lambos were stupid fast!
16-04-2011, 10:12 PM
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16-04-2011, 10:12 PM
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Im sorry but im going to disagree with 90% of the people and say that it could be possible that he was able to pull on a Gallardo once rolling. Yes they do a 12.2 mile 1/4 @120mph, but they have the aid of 4wd. Although the quarter time might be slower, look at the terminal speed speed of any decent 330+ hp fwd light weight (escort, fiesta, nova, corsa etc) car and ask yourself, why wouldnt it be able to pull on Lambo??
16-04-2011, 10:13 PM
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16-04-2011, 10:14 PM
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just watched some youtube clips vith gallardos doing the 1/4 mile around mid to high 11s. So there are really some cars on the street that can match tose times.
I read a few days ago about a FWD Fiesta in this forum that managed that time. So Lambos could be beaten by a Ford
I read a few days ago about a FWD Fiesta in this forum that managed that time. So Lambos could be beaten by a Ford
16-04-2011, 10:16 PM
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in fairness i can see how it is possible.
i did a few runs against a few quick evo's and the xr2 held up very well, however aerodynamics killed it over 100mph (shat nav not crappy inaccurate speedo).
power to weight in my fiesta would have been nigh on 350bhp per tonne, an evo would be way worse than that.
i can see a 300bhp erst being similar power to weight of a lambo plus less transmission losses. so i would think to about 100-120mph (take in account of inaccurate speedos) they would be quite similar, further up the speed scale the lambo would cream it IMO.
also factor in that lambo's aren't just fast, they are comfortable at speed too, not like the RST rattling and going light as it gets faster.
so IMO it's possible, but not at 140mph on that engine spec or body shell.
i'm planning on circa 400bhp in a mk2 xr2, on a frs box, but would need help keeping on ground and aerodynamic assistance if i ever planned on a high speed run.
i did a few runs against a few quick evo's and the xr2 held up very well, however aerodynamics killed it over 100mph (shat nav not crappy inaccurate speedo).
power to weight in my fiesta would have been nigh on 350bhp per tonne, an evo would be way worse than that.
i can see a 300bhp erst being similar power to weight of a lambo plus less transmission losses. so i would think to about 100-120mph (take in account of inaccurate speedos) they would be quite similar, further up the speed scale the lambo would cream it IMO.
also factor in that lambo's aren't just fast, they are comfortable at speed too, not like the RST rattling and going light as it gets faster.
so IMO it's possible, but not at 140mph on that engine spec or body shell.
i'm planning on circa 400bhp in a mk2 xr2, on a frs box, but would need help keeping on ground and aerodynamic assistance if i ever planned on a high speed run.
16-04-2011, 10:16 PM
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Mo; how you getting on building the car that will one day "eat" MadRod's cossie?
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16-04-2011, 10:20 PM
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in fairness i can see how it is possible.
i did a few runs against a few quick evo's and the xr2 held up very well, however aerodynamics killed it over 100mph (shat nav not crappy inaccurate speedo).
power to weight in my fiesta would have been nigh on 350bhp per tonne, an evo would be way worse than that.
i can see a 300bhp erst being similar power to weight of a lambo plus less transmission losses. so i would think to about 100-120mph (take in account of inaccurate speedos) they would be quite similar, further up the speed scale the lambo would cream it IMO.
also factor in that lambo's aren't just fast, they are comfortable at speed too, not like the RST rattling and going light as it gets faster.
so IMO it's possible, but not at 140mph on that engine spec or body shell.
i'm planning on circa 400bhp in a mk2 xr2, on a frs box, but would need help keeping on ground and aerodynamic assistance if i ever planned on a high speed run.
i did a few runs against a few quick evo's and the xr2 held up very well, however aerodynamics killed it over 100mph (shat nav not crappy inaccurate speedo).
power to weight in my fiesta would have been nigh on 350bhp per tonne, an evo would be way worse than that.
i can see a 300bhp erst being similar power to weight of a lambo plus less transmission losses. so i would think to about 100-120mph (take in account of inaccurate speedos) they would be quite similar, further up the speed scale the lambo would cream it IMO.
also factor in that lambo's aren't just fast, they are comfortable at speed too, not like the RST rattling and going light as it gets faster.
so IMO it's possible, but not at 140mph on that engine spec or body shell.
i'm planning on circa 400bhp in a mk2 xr2, on a frs box, but would need help keeping on ground and aerodynamic assistance if i ever planned on a high speed run.
16-04-2011, 10:22 PM
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mate i'm nigh on 5k into my build this year alone, fully caged and adjustable anything i can make for it.
will be the tits, but the car has no feeling of weight when you approach a true 140mph which i've only ever hit once as it lifted off the road on a slight crest, properly shit me up.
will be the tits, but the car has no feeling of weight when you approach a true 140mph which i've only ever hit once as it lifted off the road on a slight crest, properly shit me up.
16-04-2011, 10:23 PM
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mate by the time i hit 140mph it did feel scary and thats why i backed off and in my mirror he looked like a 3 car gap and he couldnt close the gap either ... and he looked gutted aswell and was giving the thumbs up before when i was right behind him all the way through and avoided his bumper.. an xr2 would be crazy lol with that power
16-04-2011, 10:23 PM
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Also, if Rod was on here, hed probably be able to tell us the distance required for a Gallardo to do 0-200mph in, and from what I can remember regarding his Brunters posts, they aint that fast there either, not even getting close to there "potential" top speed.
16-04-2011, 10:25 PM
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secretly i'm aiming for 450bhp as everything is built to take that no problem, but it'll be engine out and into a sierra/rwd escort if that happens.
16-04-2011, 10:25 PM
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mate i'm nigh on 5k into my build this year alone, fully caged and adjustable anything i can make for it.
will be the tits, but the car has no feeling of weight when you approach a true 140mph which i've only ever hit once as it lifted off the road on a slight crest, properly shit me up.
will be the tits, but the car has no feeling of weight when you approach a true 140mph which i've only ever hit once as it lifted off the road on a slight crest, properly shit me up.
16-04-2011, 10:27 PM
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Mo; how you getting on building the car that will one day "eat" MadRod's cossie?
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16-04-2011, 10:27 PM
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Who said they where racing to 200mph? Upto 140 was what I read, and to that sort of speed I can believe he would of pulled on one.
Also, if Rod was on here, hed probably be able to tell us the distance required for a Gallardo to do 0-200mph in, and from what I can remember regarding his Brunters posts, they aint that fast there either, not even getting close to there "potential" top speed.
Also, if Rod was on here, hed probably be able to tell us the distance required for a Gallardo to do 0-200mph in, and from what I can remember regarding his Brunters posts, they aint that fast there either, not even getting close to there "potential" top speed.
What I meant is if you have a car that will pull you to near 200mph, getting to 140 would not be an issue compared to a car that will be struggling with aerodynamics and pretty much flat out.
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16-04-2011, 10:29 PM
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The long and short of it is this....
Even the 5.0 V10 Gallardo (not the 5.2) is quoted at 513bhp. Even those that said they could believe it, rolling or standing, the Gallardo would destroy an S2 even with a concrete 300bhp. Come on people this is a 5.0 V10 supercar not a push bike. To give you a comparison my friends FQ340 running a solid 400bhp tried to go up against a Gallardo a while back and the Lambo was pulling on it and this Evo is an absolute animal no other word for it all the power goes down and pulls like a train on boost just before 3k and 3.5k full boost. So make of that what you will.
Even the 5.0 V10 Gallardo (not the 5.2) is quoted at 513bhp. Even those that said they could believe it, rolling or standing, the Gallardo would destroy an S2 even with a concrete 300bhp. Come on people this is a 5.0 V10 supercar not a push bike. To give you a comparison my friends FQ340 running a solid 400bhp tried to go up against a Gallardo a while back and the Lambo was pulling on it and this Evo is an absolute animal no other word for it all the power goes down and pulls like a train on boost just before 3k and 3.5k full boost. So make of that what you will.
16-04-2011, 10:29 PM
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Who said they where racing to 200mph? Upto 140 was what I read, and to that sort of speed I can believe he would of pulled on one.
Also, if Rod was on here, hed probably be able to tell us the distance required for a Gallardo to do 0-200mph in, and from what I can remember regarding his Brunters posts, they aint that fast there either, not even getting close to there "potential" top speed.
Also, if Rod was on here, hed probably be able to tell us the distance required for a Gallardo to do 0-200mph in, and from what I can remember regarding his Brunters posts, they aint that fast there either, not even getting close to there "potential" top speed.
16-04-2011, 10:34 PM
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Well the OP said he let off at 140 as the gallardo was 3 car lengths behind. If they were both rolling the gallardo has no lag and 509FtLbs of torque going through 4 10" wide wheels and the ability to go from 30-130mph in 10 seconds.
What I meant is if you have a car that will pull you to near 200mph, getting to 140 would not be an issue compared to a car that will be struggling with aerodynamics and pretty much flat out.
What I meant is if you have a car that will pull you to near 200mph, getting to 140 would not be an issue compared to a car that will be struggling with aerodynamics and pretty much flat out.
16-04-2011, 10:35 PM
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The long and short of it is this....
Even the 5.0 V10 Gallardo (not the 5.2) is quoted at 513bhp. Even those that said they could believe it, rolling or standing, the Gallardo would destroy an S2 even with a concrete 300bhp. Come on people this is a 5.0 V10 supercar not a push bike. To give you a comparison my friends FQ340 running a solid 400bhp tried to go up against a Gallardo a while back and the Lambo was pulling on it and this Evo is an absolute animal no other word for it all the power goes down and pulls like a train on boost just before 3k and 3.5k full boost. So make of that what you will.
Even the 5.0 V10 Gallardo (not the 5.2) is quoted at 513bhp. Even those that said they could believe it, rolling or standing, the Gallardo would destroy an S2 even with a concrete 300bhp. Come on people this is a 5.0 V10 supercar not a push bike. To give you a comparison my friends FQ340 running a solid 400bhp tried to go up against a Gallardo a while back and the Lambo was pulling on it and this Evo is an absolute animal no other word for it all the power goes down and pulls like a train on boost just before 3k and 3.5k full boost. So make of that what you will.
16-04-2011, 10:37 PM
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On the way to FordFair I raced a few things in my Corsa LET last summer, and nailed them quite comftably. Gave a Stage 3 T34 Saph a car lengths head start and pulled instantly on it then flew past, then had a go with Bentley Continental GT and iv also pissed all over a C63 AMG.
This in a car that does 0-160 (6.5k 6th gear F28, 195/45 16 if anybody wants to pop that into a gear speed calculator) in under 40 seconds on 16psi (wastegate presure) of boost. I genuinely feel in a real world motorway race with a Gallardo I would pull and pass on one upto 150mph then it would come back at me.
This in a car that does 0-160 (6.5k 6th gear F28, 195/45 16 if anybody wants to pop that into a gear speed calculator) in under 40 seconds on 16psi (wastegate presure) of boost. I genuinely feel in a real world motorway race with a Gallardo I would pull and pass on one upto 150mph then it would come back at me.
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16-04-2011, 10:40 PM
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On the way to FordFair I raced a few things in my Corsa LET last summer, and nailed them quite comftably. Gave a Stage 3 T34 Saph a car lengths head start and pulled instantly a flew past, the had a do with Bentley Continental GT and iv also pissed all over a C63 AMG.
This in a car that does 0-160 (6.5k 6th gear F28, 195/45 16 if anybody wants to pop that into a gear speed calculator) in under 40 seconds on 16psi (wastegate presure) of boost. I genuinely feel in a real world motorway race with a Gallardo I would pull and pass on one upto 150mph then it would come back at me.
This in a car that does 0-160 (6.5k 6th gear F28, 195/45 16 if anybody wants to pop that into a gear speed calculator) in under 40 seconds on 16psi (wastegate presure) of boost. I genuinely feel in a real world motorway race with a Gallardo I would pull and pass on one upto 150mph then it would come back at me.
16-04-2011, 10:40 PM
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About the evo racing the lambo.... i raced a 500bhp+ evo and had it in the first 3 gears but of course had me when hitting near on 80mph.The roar was fantastic!
About the xr2,was'nt getting at nothing,just got me thinking about my mates xr2.mental power but just could'nt get the grip,He needs to invest in decent gearbox.
I think the fact of the matter a fwd (ford) beating a lambo is unheard of.But the fact of the matter is how many of us have seen fords beat lambo's at santa pod.I remember seeing a rs200 making a lambo look like it was sitting still.I know rs turbo to rs200 are complete different but nothing is impossible.
About the xr2,was'nt getting at nothing,just got me thinking about my mates xr2.mental power but just could'nt get the grip,He needs to invest in decent gearbox.
I think the fact of the matter a fwd (ford) beating a lambo is unheard of.But the fact of the matter is how many of us have seen fords beat lambo's at santa pod.I remember seeing a rs200 making a lambo look like it was sitting still.I know rs turbo to rs200 are complete different but nothing is impossible.
16-04-2011, 10:43 PM
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[quote=turbocabessex;5424855]mate dont try an make me look a fool, my mate has more drivin talent than most people i know, ill get him to send me the vid of him pushin the escos round the ring in under 9 mins then u can STFU
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just because your mate got slayed dont mean every other car in the world will get slayed by a lambo you dickhead.. theres many different models
anyway carry on hater
dont be a hater coz your a bull shitter too[/quotejust because your mate got slayed dont mean every other car in the world will get slayed by a lambo you dickhead
.. theres many different models anyway carry on hater
16-04-2011, 10:45 PM
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we were both rolling mate at around 40mph and floored them in 2nd we was neck on neck and then in 3rd i pulled and in 4th i pulled a bit more and then in 5th gear i helld it down and then slowed down by then i pulled 3 car gap! aerodynamcs didnt stop me and my car is capable of more speed but i didnt carry on i dont want to do speeds that i aint comfortable with it was just a bit of fun! like i said upto 140mph i pulled
I think this is another case of, you did a flyby on a gallardo and he didnt even notice you, or didnt want to waste his petrol.
16-04-2011, 10:47 PM
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About the evo racing the lambo.... i raced a 500bhp+ evo and had it in the first 3 gears but of course had me when hitting near on 80mph.The roar was fantastic!
About the xr2,was'nt getting at nothing,just got me thinking about my mates xr2.mental power but just could'nt get the grip,He needs to invest in decent gearbox.
I think the fact of the matter a fwd (ford) beating a lambo is unheard of.But the fact of the matter is how many of us have seen fords beat lambo's at santa pod.I remember seeing a rs200 making a lambo look like it was sitting still.I know rs turbo to rs200 are complete different but nothing is impossible.
About the xr2,was'nt getting at nothing,just got me thinking about my mates xr2.mental power but just could'nt get the grip,He needs to invest in decent gearbox.
I think the fact of the matter a fwd (ford) beating a lambo is unheard of.But the fact of the matter is how many of us have seen fords beat lambo's at santa pod.I remember seeing a rs200 making a lambo look like it was sitting still.I know rs turbo to rs200 are complete different but nothing is impossible.
16-04-2011, 10:51 PM
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was a proper race!! next to each other rolling.. lambos are fast to you becuase you aint raced one so shut up if you was in a proper light car with good power you would see the lambo in the mirror instead upto like 150 mph then he will catch up and go but where the fuck would you reach 200mph anyway apart from a air strip.
16-04-2011, 10:53 PM
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16-04-2011, 10:54 PM
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was a proper race!! next to each other rolling.. lambos are fast to you becuase you aint raced one so shut up if you was in a proper light car with good power you would see the lambo in the mirror instead upto like 150 mph then he will catch up and go but where the fuck would you reach 200mph anyway apart from a air strip.
This is also still all assuming it was the slowest model gallardo they do.
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16-04-2011, 10:55 PM
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maybe is quick on the strip because the 4wd advantage and 400bhp but on the road it runs out of power i find evos i have raced no offence but them seemed to run out of power wheres as my car just pulled strong in every gear and i noticed compared to evos my gears seem a bit longer .. not saying my car is quicker than your mates at the pod because it isnt