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Old 14-04-2011, 11:03 AM
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Any ideas what is the best diff to use which can cope with 500bhp and 500lb/ft ?

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I use to run a gripper plated diff ,but the new Titan diffs seem to get a good write up.
Old 14-04-2011, 11:25 AM
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You getting a new engine ?
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Originally Posted by cossie4i
Any ideas what is the best diff to use which can cope with 500bhp and 500lb/ft ?

Steve
I tried a quaife ATB its on its limit at that but if you dont launch should be OK.
The jaguar 10.5" is the real solution they can be picked up for £100 & then a £400 rebuild, fitted in 1999 its had zero maintenance.
Old 14-04-2011, 11:51 AM
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rod would that jag diff be any good for track days ?
Old 14-04-2011, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DAN P
rod would that jag diff be any good for track days ?

Its a 3.54 power loc so i guess it would be fine.
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Originally Posted by carlo
You getting a new engine ?
No, this one is 480bhp & about 485lb/ft

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Originally Posted by MadRod
I tried a quaife ATB its on its limit at that but if you dont launch should be OK.
Thats the diff i was thinking about.

Would like to do a few runs up the strip with it.

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Old 14-04-2011, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cossie4i
Thats the diff i was thinking about.

Would like to do a few runs up the strip with it.

Steve
Atb diffs are not suited for drag strips more fast road and track.
Old 14-04-2011, 12:34 PM
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Titan seems to be the way forward for 7.5", but I expect you're too tight. Have you blown your diff? You will always be risking it with the standard CWP and launches
Old 14-04-2011, 12:36 PM
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I've got a gripper in mine.

a std diff will nearly always blow the planet gears before stripping CWP but then an uprated diff will strip the CWP instead (which is harder to do but not impossible)
Old 14-04-2011, 12:40 PM
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Well I've been told in mine with 500hp and 500lb/ft it will do the CWP within the first few goes

Rod, don't you need custom beam and shafts for the Jag diff?
Old 14-04-2011, 12:43 PM
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Weld it up!
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ask jb fletch which ones he's using as he's always stripping the pinion teeth on his diffs

well, he was but no one did an uprated part for that, so i'd be going with the suggestion of a totally different diff without these issues to begin with
Old 14-04-2011, 12:56 PM
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Steve,

What boost you running?
Old 14-04-2011, 12:59 PM
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I do agree with dojj, the best way is to fit a different diff altogether, although it maybe costly the first time you do it, but it will also be the last time you do it.
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True Mike, but if you're not bothered about launching, then save yourself £1000!
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look into the 8.8 irs mustang diffs
Old 14-04-2011, 02:09 PM
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for standard fitment gripper is the only way
Old 14-04-2011, 02:55 PM
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I have a Jag 10.5" in my saff, yes it's quite expensive to get it in there, but you will NEVER break it with cossie power, in the long run it works out cheaper, and you get a 6 degree rear beam at the same time.
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Originally Posted by James90RS
Well I've been told in mine with 500hp and 500lb/ft it will do the CWP within the first few goes

Rod, don't you need custom beam and shafts for the Jag diff?
Zoo Motorsport modified a beam kit & supplied shafts, however ive had to get special shafts made to cope with 660ft-lb since. Its like all things a solution you can fit/forget is worth a few extra bob & a lot less stress. JB has spent more on standard diffs at £50 a pop than my whole rear end conversion which is bullet proof. Think beam was £1700 fitted with shafts + diff £450 so around 2.2k, up to 600ft-lb its fit/forget.
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i had a gripper that was good, old school plated but pretty tough.
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I totally see your point Rod and agree with you. But could you get it done for those prices these days, and if so where from?
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Originally Posted by MadRod
I tried a quaife ATB its on its limit at that but if you dont launch should be OK.
The jaguar 10.5" is the real solution they can be picked up for £100 & then a £400 rebuild, fitted in 1999 its had zero maintenance.
I think there's your answer Steve, and at those costs Rod's quoted must be a win win.



I had the Quaife ATB in my saff if you remember, that did shit itself after the guy bought the car off me and that wasn't near your torque at all.

Again, depends how much mechanical sypmpothy you have i guess
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Rod is yours actually a Jag rear beam modded then? Or a Cossie 6° with further mods?
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Originally Posted by staffi

I had the Quaife ATB in my saff if you remember, that did shit itself after the guy bought the car off me and that wasn't near your torque at all.

Again, depends how much mechanical sypmpothy you have i guess
Great

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Originally Posted by R5FORD
Steve,

What boost you running?
It made 480bhp and about 485lb/ft @ 2.1 bar on a DD RR, it holds 2.2bar on the road.

Steve
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Originally Posted by MadRod
Zoo Motorsport modified a beam kit & supplied shafts, however ive had to get special shafts made to cope with 660ft-lb since. Its like all things a solution you can fit/forget is worth a few extra bob & a lot less stress. JB has spent more on standard diffs at £50 a pop than my whole rear end conversion which is bullet proof. Think beam was £1700 fitted with shafts + diff £450 so around 2.2k, up to 600ft-lb its fit/forget.
you could have told him to sit down first, you are going to give the man a heart attack rod quoting those sorts of prices
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Originally Posted by dojj
you could have told him to sit down first, you are going to give the man a heart attack rod quoting those sorts of prices
Not really Dojj, you are looking at £1000 for a good 7.5" diff anyway, plus fitting etc, if you smash ONE diff, you are looking at £600+ to fix it again, do it once do it right
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What jag diffs do people use? I.e, out of which car?

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i have 500bhp and same ish torque and have a gripper diff but i did strip all the teeth off my c w and pinion leaving a round about in second lol so now have a shot peened and super finished one done by my mates dad who works for hewland engineering the diff only cost 700 pounds so cheap and strong also locks both wheels with out fail
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
Not really Dojj, you are looking at £1000 for a good 7.5" diff anyway, plus fitting etc, if you smash ONE diff, you are looking at £600+ to fix it again, do it once do it right
but steve's as tight as some indians i know who squeeze pennies so tight the queen screams
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Originally Posted by dojj
but steve's as tight as some indians i know who squeeze pennies so tight the queen screams

FPMSL....... dojj.......................
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Rod/Will, can you please post Or PM me all details on your setup i.e. where to get the bits done like shafts, which diff, who to rebuild it, etc. I'm looking at rear diffs and the Titan is £1500 fitted into my case, so for another £700 may as well go Jag diff
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didnt danny b run a mustange rear end and lader bars in a stage one car and run 12s?

what about that set up ?
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
Not really Dojj, you are looking at £1000 for a good 7.5" diff anyway, plus fitting etc, if you smash ONE diff, you are looking at £600+ to fix it again, do it once do it right
If you break a quaife or gripper equipped diff you only have to change the cwp you can get a blown STD 7.5 diff for £100 Ish then swap the diff unit over as the unit doesnt break.

Rebuilding a gripper unit is cheap they need doing once a year depending on use.
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Originally Posted by James90RS
Rod is yours actually a Jag rear beam modded then? Or a Cossie 6° with further mods?

Modified Cossie rear beam.
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Originally Posted by Dan@Rapid-Ford
I've got a gripper in mine.

a std diff will nearly always blow the planet gears before stripping CWP but then an uprated diff will strip the CWP instead (which is harder to do but not impossible)
This is the problem I have with my ATB. Behaves impecably once on the move, but spits out the teeth of the crown wheel if launched with decent grip.
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Originally Posted by James90RS
True Mike, but if you're not bothered about launching, then save yourself £1000!
Mmmm, best part of five grand for a nine inch for mine if I want to do some strip action which i would love to do

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Originally Posted by sapph1
What jag diffs do people use? I.e, out of which car?
Mines from Diamler Limo 3.54 Power Loc.


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