What would you say is the BEST conversion for ROAD use....
06-02-2005, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MADRod
Well 500bhp is my low boost setting & that feels soooo slow it certainly aint enough on the road. 640bhp is about the minimum i need to keep the adrenalin flowing.
A 150 shot on Top aint really required but a 75 hit comes in handy sometimes.
Rod
A 150 shot on Top aint really required but a 75 hit comes in handy sometimes.
Rod
06-02-2005, 08:17 PM
#42
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have i ever been in a 500bhp car traveling to and from work ,,,,,,,,,,,,, nope, how many other 600bhp cars are used for work ( not as a company demo vehicle btw 
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my justifacation is 600bhp is not gonna be used on your journey to work, 110 miles each way is a fooking mission though mate
, cant ever try and argue or say i know how that is as i complain about my 45 min journey to work
now back on the point, your saying the 600bhp is the prefered spec of a good work horse
, why do all van drivers have diesels
and when are ya gonna need 600 bhp on the journey to work ai at all ever
you think ya you will get to work that much quicker on motorways than a stage1 cossie tpo make a differnence that much
the other thing id be concerned with is the fact that the conversion takes how long to compleate due to sooo many special parts and other various factors that io really cant see many people buying 600bhp cossies for a daily comute ( i could be wrong though, i also though betamax would be the one to have and i still have a BSB squariel as then 5 channels where british
i would mention my phillips DCC player as i love that as its a slide opening cassette player so im happy with that either way
now are you telling me that 600bhp is gonna be used every day as in the whole 600bhp not jsut the sticker and the autronic badges
just wondering and having a freindly banter about it as i must admit that 600bhp as a good road conversion sounds like a comment jim would make when he wins the lottery
oh and what about 600bhp in the snow and rain, not even thought about them either
oh and have yoiu ever used a 600+bhp cossie as a everyday car to make a comment like that
)my justifacation is 600bhp is not gonna be used on your journey to work, 110 miles each way is a fooking mission though mate
, cant ever try and argue or say i know how that is as i complain about my 45 min journey to work now back on the point, your saying the 600bhp is the prefered spec of a good work horse
, why do all van drivers have diesels and when are ya gonna need 600 bhp on the journey to work ai at all ever
you think ya you will get to work that much quicker on motorways than a stage1 cossie tpo make a differnence that much
the other thing id be concerned with is the fact that the conversion takes how long to compleate due to sooo many special parts and other various factors that io really cant see many people buying 600bhp cossies for a daily comute ( i could be wrong though, i also though betamax would be the one to have and i still have a BSB squariel as then 5 channels where british
i would mention my phillips DCC player as i love that as its a slide opening cassette player so im happy with that either way
now are you telling me that 600bhp is gonna be used every day as in the whole 600bhp not jsut the sticker and the autronic badges
just wondering and having a freindly banter about it as i must admit that 600bhp as a good road conversion sounds like a comment jim would make when he wins the lottery
oh and what about 600bhp in the snow and rain, not even thought about them either
oh and have yoiu ever used a 600+bhp cossie as a everyday car to make a comment like that
06-02-2005, 08:21 PM
#43
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Well 500bhp is my low boost setting & that feels soooo slow it certainly aint enough on the road. 640bhp is about the minimum i need to keep the adrenalin flowing.
i remember one a guy that said he couldnt physicly work sundays, sounds like a quote like that
and we complain about nova drivers
, 500bhp feels slow wake up people
06-02-2005, 08:29 PM
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rods use his as a daily runner for one 
ontop ive paid for a road going conversion, which was number 1 in my spec
and i have i been in 600hp car, well thats for you to find out
ontop ive paid for a road going conversion, which was number 1 in my spec
and i have i been in 600hp car, well thats for you to find out
06-02-2005, 08:31 PM
#45
As I have said on numerous times, one of the best ALL round conversions I had was a standard 4x4 bottom end + a 2wd head (gives 7.8:1 ratio), standard cams, three angled / valves / seats, T3/4 with 0.48 a/r, live mapped on 803s - 385bhp / 403lbft.
12.64 @ 115mph quarter and Datron timed 172mph.
More than enough power, no reliability problems
- what more could you ask for? 
12.64 @ 115mph quarter and Datron timed 172mph.
More than enough power, no reliability problems
- what more could you ask for?
06-02-2005, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RANJ
rods use his as a daily runner for one
ontop ive paid for a road going conversion, which was number 1 in my spec
and i have i been in 600hp car, well thats for you to find out
ontop ive paid for a road going conversion, which was number 1 in my spec
and i have i been in 600hp car, well thats for you to find out
, or more the correct face 
, he alwatys does over 170mph , on the way to safeways, collecting a video from blockbusters and you are still saying that 600bhp is THE BEST road going conversion you can think of, below that is totally pointless
sorry mate, you are mistaken im sure you know it too, its great that ya have the money to spend, im not saying its not reliable in anyway, im saying haveing 600bhp+ is pointless for a road car as you have a crash ya not only gonna kill ya self but others around you
600bhp as in you need the WHOLE 600bhp ya not doing a normal 120mph that will loose ya ya licence, ya doing speeds that will get ya banged up and for a reason too
maybe im the old fart but think about it, im not one for commenting on speeding ect but 160mph with ya lunch box everyday is crap, you aint gonna do it all the way, ya not gonna beable too, i get the hump when i gotta brake as some tossers doing 80 on a long empty straight on the m40, now if i was doing 16 to 170 i wouldnt have time to shout wanker before i hit him
and when was the last time ya drove at 170mph on the way to work
, im guessing it wasnt friday evening on the way back good luck in ya choice, its a great car and will be a good car when done BUT its not a shopping car
06-02-2005, 09:03 PM
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u dont half talk shit
who in the right fookin mind runs there car at full power every day (550+boys )
where have i said that im gonna run full boost/high octane fuel etc etc
why the fuk do u think i asked for a fukin road going conversion, so i can park in the garage and fukin just look at it
there is a thing as running your car at low power, where its still driveable and can be used as regualr runner whislt still retaining a big spec engine
u dont half talk shit
who in the right fookin mind runs there car at full power every day (550+boys )
where have i said that im gonna run full boost/high octane fuel etc etc
why the fuk do u think i asked for a fukin road going conversion, so i can park in the garage and fukin just look at it
there is a thing as running your car at low power, where its still driveable and can be used as regualr runner whislt still retaining a big spec engine
06-02-2005, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RANJ
who in the right fookin mind runs there car at full power every day (550+boys )
where have i said that im gonna run full boost/high octane fuel etc etc
If it's big spec engine mapped for pump fue why not just use a little less throttle and have full lamda control etc. on it? I do know of 400bhp Scoobies used everyday, surely more is possible, and maximum is more to transmission and other parts that are not reaod going in such high spec cars, am I right?
06-02-2005, 09:15 PM
#55
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there is a thing as running your car at low power, where its still driveable and can be used as regualr runner whislt still retaining a big spec engine
am i the only one missing it
06-02-2005, 09:16 PM
#57
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why do ya think a 600bhp car is a good conversion if ya turning the power down
that makes a smaller power conversion a good one and yours good for shows ect and general toy to play with
that makes a smaller power conversion a good one and yours good for shows ect and general toy to play with
06-02-2005, 09:23 PM
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Oh and I don't understand the "Snow, wet" part. :-/ What's the difference if you have 300 or 600 HP - you still have to operate throttle carefully in wet and in snow you stil going sideways all the time The problem is you may need better nervs and self restrint and better driving skills but if you don't have those you can always drive fast car slower
The problem is you may need better nervs and self restrint and better driving skills but if you don't have those you can always drive fast car slower
06-02-2005, 09:24 PM
#60
just finding my feet
mine at 1 bar boost will produce near 500hp
good when u have choice hey 500/or a few flciks later 600+
good when u have choice hey 500/or a few flciks later 600+
cant argue there mate
still noit the best conversion for the road
06-02-2005, 09:25 PM
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Oh and I don't understand the "Snow, wet" part. :-/ What's the difference if you have 300 or 600 HP - you still have to operate throttle carefully in wet and in snow you stil going sideways all the time The problem is you may need better nervs and self restrint and better driving skills but if you don't have those you can always drive fast car slower
06-02-2005, 09:29 PM
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ffs ginge give it a rest
cant see the issue
this has got to one of the first arguements that dont contain tuners on this site for a few months
06-02-2005, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RANJ
Oh and I don't understand the "Snow, wet" part. :-/ What's the difference if you have 300 or 600 HP - you still have to operate throttle carefully in wet and in snow you stil going sideways all the time The problem is you may need better nervs and self restrint and better driving skills but if you don't have those you can always drive fast car slower
By the way - I think, and I think I will always think that it's better to invest 1000GBP in you driving then in your car... I seen experiments on that made with stage times.The same stage stock car and Group A rallycar. Ralldriver drives it with oth cars and there is certain difference. The same is done with driver completny out of motorsport. THen both drivers get whole day course with expert of driving that car and do it again The amateur driver did learn muchmore then the difference between GR A and factory was and rallydriver gain A LOT too. The problem is not to have 600 HP bo to be able to use it anywhere else then on empty streight airfield.
My another 2pence
06-02-2005, 10:14 PM
#79
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BD10s oh my . Loose 20-30lb ft in the midrange for a 7bhp increase at top end - well worth it
what about a bd10 ad bd12 ( in both orders), no rush mike, phone harvey in the morning as he might want some sleep
i as as i might fit standard cams if there that bad midrange or does other things make a difference
06-02-2005, 10:40 PM
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I wouldn't change the OE cams until I was trying to achieve / break the 400bhp mark . Not worth doing unless combined with some porting of the head.
Don't worry, as you can see from my reply, I can contact Harvey 24-7 via the "bat-phone" link I have set up .
. Not worth doing unless combined with some porting of the head.Don't worry, as you can see from my reply, I can contact Harvey 24-7 via the "bat-phone" link I have set up
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