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Old 06-07-2011, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by lacey
not a lot lol. I keep getting let down no bits but it will be a road and track car and a bit of advertising for my when its done. I should be able to get another one of those valves for the turbo if some one is interested but they aint cheap as its a propper cosworth one
Did the car get finished with this set up?

What sort of money are those turbo throttles
Old 06-07-2011, 02:06 PM
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Not yet but the engine was dynod with it on I think ( along time ago now lol) start to do work on it again so maybe soon ,there a lot but I do know of some one who ain't using there's if your interested pm me
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Originally Posted by Chip
AFAIK Its different in that it prevents a pressure differential by restricting the air before the turbo, rather than allowing the air after the turbo somewhere to go (through the engine), and it doesnt involve the same amounts of exhaust gas flow either potentially, so surely thats a fairly significant difference so not really "no different"?




Another interesting development ive seen recently talked about in terms of combatting lag is this one for twin scroll turbos:

http://www.suprastore.com/spquspva.html


Its actually a pretty good theory IMHO, although seems a little on the pricey side for what it is, might have a go at making something similar one day to see if it works or not as my nova with a non split pulse manifold would be the ideal testing ground for it.
I'd be inclined not to use the little fasteners though and to just weld straight onto the shaft, imagine those little feckers going through your turbo's exhaust turbine, would properly fuck it!

Chip would this system work on a RS500 t4 or would it need a twin scroll exhaust housing & what would be the best way to control the flap .
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the system requires a non twin scroll manifold and a twin scroll turbo exhaust housing,the 2wd cosworth manifold is twin scroll isnt it?therefore it wont work as you would be blanking off 2 cylinders at the exhaust end,not ideal
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Agreed, if you dont have a twin scroll turbo that movable flap cant help you.
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did lacey ever finish his engine & what was the results ?
Old 26-08-2012, 03:56 PM
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Not yet mate , it just time and money , of which both are short at the moment lol , but I am still doing bits to it slowly , and hoping to be running by the end of the end lol
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Originally Posted by lacey
Not yet mate , it just time and money , of which both are short at the moment lol , but I am still doing bits to it slowly , and hoping to be running by the end of the end lol
I reckon you will have built mine before yours is finished!
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I know that has crossed my mind lol, once I have the new ecu and loom I'm gona fire the dame thing
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Originally Posted by lacey
I know that has crossed my mind lol, once I have the new ecu and loom I'm gona fire the dame thing
A good plan. I will help give you incentive tomorrow.
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The biggest problem with the setup of a throttle plate on the compressor inlet is handling (timing) the transition for off/on throttle!
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I know ,i machine a load of stuff to link it in with the throttles ( I am on i/throttle body's) but it was hydraulic in it's designed app" but my bugget dont go that far lol so trail and error it is then
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This is very old skool martin schanche used this on his escort back in 1991-2 with cosworth engine but never seen it used now days in rallycross as they have silly 45 mm restrictor and run tubic manifolds and run als them days als was not around on rallycross engines they just used lorry size turbos with lag then take off at 4k with a bang

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Originally Posted by lacey
I know ,i machine a load of stuff to link it in with the throttles ( I am on i/throttle body's) but it was hydraulic in it's designed app" but my bugget dont go that far lol so trail and error it is then
Your post just confuses me!
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