twoblacklines

When i bought my diesel car i was laughing, diesel cost the same as petrol and i got 10 or so mpg more out of the same performance.

Only now i have to do 20k miles per year more which im not insured to do (my insurance nearly doubles by putting 10k more down) to see any gain.

So im selling my passat tdi having had to live with a noisey engine, shit gear ratios for a diesel engine, etc and buying a nice 1.8t that has not only more hp but actually saves me money

I dont understand how the government wants everyone to go green, diesel cars produce less c02 than petrol ones yet they tax diesel fuel prices more than petrol prices............

andyt

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you try being a self employed courier mate, i put between £80-85 a day in diesel

david 100

I was reading a car mag other night and it done a fuel econ test between a diesel car and the same car in petrol and it worked out the petrol was the one to go for.

I have a diesel Range Rover and i can just get 28 mpg, i had a Range Rover V8 supercharged on demo for a weekend and driving as smooth as posible i got 22 mpg from the V8 petrol, i know useing the V8 in normal driving you might not get 18 mpg but it making me think about going for the petrol V8

botters

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yes they produce less c02 but unfortunatley they also release a chemical, the name of which ive forgot at the moment which is one of the most harmful chemicals in the world known to cause cancer, birth defects and damage to nature and wildlife and is only found in diesel fumes nothing else in the world produces this same chemical!!!

RichieST

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Crazy isn't it. The government are trying to get people into micro cars etc but offereing them free road tax etc. But wait a couple of years and they'll soon hike that straight back up!

Graham S1

Benzine?

thebronze

Whats the price for a litre of Gas over there?? Where I live it's $1.16 canadian

Diseasel

That all ??!! It's around £1.20 a litre for derv, a few pence cheaper for unleaded

The Crocodile Hunter

Its currently about £1.16 for petrol and £1.20 for diesel here

Was a little higher earlier in the year too

Just waiting for the VAT increase in Jan and im sure we can add at least 5p on those prices

What the exchange on canadian dollars and the pound??

thebronze

it's about $1.50 to the pound...

The Crocodile Hunter

I just checked, it would be 71p a litre for us!

based on $1.63 according to a currency convertor???

martysmartie

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As far as I can remember Diesel has always been dearer than Petrol at least where I am anyway.

I think the thing about emissions your thinking of is particle matter (Soot) but not sure if that explains the price difference?

Martin

Glenn_

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When i first past my test in 1999. Petrol was only 79p a litre. Its a real joke this country now. One day we might all be driving electric cars, wow great..

dojj

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i remember when petrol was LESS than 30p a litre when i first started to drive

i put £91+ in the transit yesterday, although that'll be good for 500 odd miles

chaffe

Sulphur?

chaffe

lol, but how much was the average wage then? When i started my apprenticeship in 2002 the average wage of a timeserved lad was about £10 an hour, its £16 quid now, all realative.

chaffe

When did you start driving lol

dojj

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I started driving in 1990 and I can remeber filling the cossie for less than 30 quid from empty

Bailes1992

Yep, today I replace my 406 1.9TD with a Focus 1.6 Petrol. I can't wait. Be nice to have some performance back, better mpg and cheaper running costs Oh and another 3000rpm

Ontop of that insurance is £300 cheaper on the Focus which is faster, better specced, worth more etc then my 1.9TD 406?

chaffe

i was five in 1990, dont remember filling up my toy tractors

Csm

Think your in for a shock if you think theres performance in a 1.6 focus

Roosie

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My Motorhome cost be £101 to fill up and that got be to angelsey then had to put another £100 to get back

chaffe

lol, can make the 1.9 XUTD go quite fast with a bit of tinkering

Glenn_

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I was on 110 quid a week that was because my old wanker of a boss was tight.

vaughant

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Tbh fella,when I finished my apprenticeship I was on £24k a year basic in 1999 and now I'm looking around there's plenty of employers out there offering a lot less than that,scary eh?

Passed my test in '93 and petrol was under 45p a litre,sometimes 40p if you looked around,so relatively speaking if,as you say wages have increased 60%,fuel has increased well over 200%!!!!

Also things like gas,leccy etc are way more now than before but one thing that's a lot better is mortgage rates,I remember my old girl paying 15% interest in the late eighties,early nineties,something like £700 PCM for a £65k mortgage,ouch!!!!

chaffe

when i started my apprenticeship i was on £2.96 an hour!

chaffe

I suppose it depends where you work and the trade your in, still doesnt make fuel any cheaper! £1.22 for petrol and £1.26 for diesel in some places round here!

dojj

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Drove past one where diseasal was £1.23.9 per litre so I thunk I got away cheaply with just paying £1.21.9

Saying that though, the vans broken down this morning so I'm sitting underneath the a40 by paddington waiting for the AA to cone out to fix it

vaughant

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Ouch!!1.19 when i filled up last night,albeit in asda.

What trade you in fella?

R4N SS

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just so you guys know he is on about LPG not petrol or diesel

or is it propane they run over there in Canada - aint been for a years now so cant quite remember

Also, some of you diesel guys may benefit from using biofuel/veg as its cheaper and you can legally produce 2600 litres a year per person in your household tax free of course

I spend around 85 quid a month at the most

silky16v

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more info on this please and the costs thats if you know of course

I've not long been back from America and it was $2.73 a US gallon and the exchange rate on my card was 1.55 so it cost £1.76 for a US galloncost me £19 to fill the 3.6 V6 Camero i was hiring

bj928

i just got back from america as well, and was paying $2.55 a US gallon, US gallon is 3.78 litres to the gallon, and the exchange rate is $1.6 to the £, that works out to about 42p a litre, i have seen in down to $2.38, god bless america

chaffe

is that why there is smoke coming from the car in your sig ran? lol

R4N SS

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chaffe lol

Silky - what you need to know - pm me and i will try and help out

R4N SS

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PS> My bio works out at 65p a litre mucho cheapness

the mk1 kid

Is it cheaper to swap though?

Everything i have read about petrols being cheaper than diesels now yady yada is based around buying new, not second hand.

That 10+ extra mpg out of the passat far out weights 10p at the pump - doesn't it?

I do appreaciate what you're saying though, i had a passat tdi, golf pd 150 tdi, and due to a variety of reasons i'm even looking at a 1.8t now as i dont cover many miles these days.

One more thing though, the tax band - you might be paying £100 _+ more with the petrol.

Tom

vaughant

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I de badged my tdi passat,which was red,then ran it on colourcoded diesel.strangely,on the few occasions I put pump fuel in it the glowplug light would flash,I.e engine management fault!!!

Back on red,light went out!!

Much faster on red too,but it's a hell of a gamble if you've got something decent!!!

R4N SS

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u dont want to get caught running red in your car as you get royally fucked over as its seen as defrauding the queen - like she puts fuel in any car anyway

much safer to use bio

you can even make it yourself if you can be bothered and save yourself thousands a yer

chaffe

do they not look at bio siesel in the same light then?

RichieST

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You still need to pay the duty on bio, that's all they are worried about.