Sierra RS500 vs Focus RS500?
16-09-2010, 06:08 PM
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Sierra RS500 vs Focus RS500?
was just wondering if anyone has put the 2 up against eachother yet and what the outcome was? any vids or anything?
one is a real car and the other is something made to use all the spares bits up 
16-09-2010, 06:25 PM
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16-09-2010, 06:32 PM
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Seriously, can't compare, age, FWD/RWD etc etc....
As said, Standard trim the Focus allday long, but who cares?? Sierra 500 is just a HUGE part of history and such an iconic car, i don't think the 500 Focus will EVER fill it's shoes tbh....
16-09-2010, 06:32 PM
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just curious thats all, but ok then what if they both had 500bhp and standard running gear, surely thats got to be more equal fight between the 2?
16-09-2010, 06:33 PM
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I guess the closest modern day comparison would be comparing the current btcc focus and btcc sierra and i reckon it would be closer race on a tight and twisty track than most people would think IMO
16-09-2010, 06:37 PM
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500 horses on standard rs500 suspension/brakes would be MEGA scary, as it would in the focus but I reckon the focus would cope slightly better if you could stop it from wheel spinning
16-09-2010, 06:42 PM
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lol im just trying to find some kind of level thats fair to compare the 2 as if you look at things like this :
fully moded cosworth - been proven over 1000bhp yet the focus hasnt had the 25 years that the sierra has had to reach that yet, so obviously the highest spec focus vs highest spec sierra cosworth = cosworth wins but its unfair
standard forms - focus rs has a standard 80+ odd bhp more but from what i see not alot of potential for alot more atm with it being new, whereas the sierra does - so another unfair way of looking at it
btcc cars - the rules are different to what they were back then and you got away with alot more back then and im prety sure the btcc spec sierra rs500 would be all over the focus btcc car of today - so another unfair challenge to compare them by
only way i see its fair is to give them an even +bhp level and see how the running gear handles with it round a track, fair comparison on engine power and running gear with old technology against new surely?
fully moded cosworth - been proven over 1000bhp yet the focus hasnt had the 25 years that the sierra has had to reach that yet, so obviously the highest spec focus vs highest spec sierra cosworth = cosworth wins but its unfair
standard forms - focus rs has a standard 80+ odd bhp more but from what i see not alot of potential for alot more atm with it being new, whereas the sierra does - so another unfair way of looking at it
btcc cars - the rules are different to what they were back then and you got away with alot more back then and im prety sure the btcc spec sierra rs500 would be all over the focus btcc car of today - so another unfair challenge to compare them by
only way i see its fair is to give them an even +bhp level and see how the running gear handles with it round a track, fair comparison on engine power and running gear with old technology against new surely?
16-09-2010, 07:23 PM
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I can only speak from experience in a straight line (ish). I lost one who was definitely trying on a long uphill A road. I got a wave and a smile afterwards as well. Thought it was Bonkers but it wasn't him. Oh and yes unfair cos I am running around 425 bhp at the moment as well.
But all jolly good fun
But all jolly good fun
16-09-2010, 07:53 PM
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I think this is a bit of a giggle 
I am stuck in the era when the RS was an RS and to me the focus isnt.Slate me all you want,the mk1 is ok when its been converted to rear wheel drive and the flint has been changed.The new one does nothing for me at all.
3 door Cosworth
bonkers,lovley to look at and such an iconic car and in btcc trim . . shit a brick 
I agree with pete,imo the focus will never fill the boots of a Sierra RS500.
I am stuck in the era when the RS was an RS and to me the focus isnt.Slate me all you want,the mk1 is ok when its been converted to rear wheel drive and the flint has been changed.The new one does nothing for me at all.
3 door Cosworth
bonkers,lovley to look at and such an iconic car and in btcc trim . . shit a brick I agree with pete,imo the focus will never fill the boots of a Sierra RS500.
16-09-2010, 08:01 PM
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I have a focus st running about 300bhp and a saph 4x4 running a proven 404 bhp and tbh the focus feels a lot quicker,spools up quicker.
Aboot the doors the focus would destroy the cossie,easily aswell, and its a lot more comfy to drive on a day to day basis,though when Im out giving it a bit in both and you look at the speedo the cossie is travelling way beyond what the focus would be doing at the same point,I know the cossie is modded but the so is the focus,just to a less degree,remember the cossie is 17 year old and the focus 3,technology has moved on big time,so a fair comparison would be hard to judge.
And as said above,one's a classic the other is a.....well focus
Aboot the doors the focus would destroy the cossie,easily aswell, and its a lot more comfy to drive on a day to day basis,though when Im out giving it a bit in both and you look at the speedo the cossie is travelling way beyond what the focus would be doing at the same point,I know the cossie is modded but the so is the focus,just to a less degree,remember the cossie is 17 year old and the focus 3,technology has moved on big time,so a fair comparison would be hard to judge.
And as said above,one's a classic the other is a.....well focus
16-09-2010, 08:32 PM
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the sierra RS500 is the real RS500 but your compare a car thats 25 years old and one thats under 1 years old obvcourse the new one will be quick but its not as nice
16-09-2010, 09:21 PM
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Performance : The Focus makes the sierra look like its still half asleep
Handling : The focus is pointed and had endless grip, the sierra feels like sailing a cross channel ferry
Braking : The focus inspires massive confidence and can handle repeated stops from high speed effortlessly, the sierra has an ABS light on
Reliability : We'll let you know when the sierra comes back from its rebuild and we can finish the second half of the tests
Throttle response : at 3K rpm you touch the throttle of the focus and its off like a cut cat, in the sierra it lags for 5 seconds then you get a small shove as the pathetic half a bar of boost from a turbo off a lorry finally arrives.
Yeah, that would be an awesome way to annoy all the readers who idiolise the sierra rs500 and stop them buying the mag ever again
Its just not a fair comparison, the sierra was built just to homologate some parts, the focus was really well thought out as a top end road car.
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17-09-2010, 01:01 AM
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Performance : The Focus makes the sierra look like its still half asleep
Handling : The focus is pointed and had endless grip, the sierra feels like sailing a cross channel ferry
Braking : The focus inspires massive confidence and can handle repeated stops from high speed effortlessly, the sierra has an ABS light on
Reliability : We'll let you know when the sierra comes back from its rebuild and we can finish the second half of the tests
Throttle response : at 3K rpm you touch the throttle of the focus and its off like a cut cat, in the sierra it lags for 5 seconds then you get a small shove as the pathetic half a bar of boost from a turbo off a lorry finally arrives.
Yeah, that would be an awesome way to annoy all the readers who idiolise the sierra rs500 and stop them buying the mag ever again
Its just not a fair comparison, the sierra was built just to homologate some parts, the focus was really well thought out as a top end road car.
Handling : The focus is pointed and had endless grip, the sierra feels like sailing a cross channel ferry
Braking : The focus inspires massive confidence and can handle repeated stops from high speed effortlessly, the sierra has an ABS light on
Reliability : We'll let you know when the sierra comes back from its rebuild and we can finish the second half of the tests
Throttle response : at 3K rpm you touch the throttle of the focus and its off like a cut cat, in the sierra it lags for 5 seconds then you get a small shove as the pathetic half a bar of boost from a turbo off a lorry finally arrives.
Yeah, that would be an awesome way to annoy all the readers who idiolise the sierra rs500 and stop them buying the mag ever again
Its just not a fair comparison, the sierra was built just to homologate some parts, the focus was really well thought out as a top end road car.
Hate to say it but....... spot on!!!
17-09-2010, 02:09 AM
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I would take the Focus!!! Mainly cos something thats 20+ years old isn't going to be safe.
Crash a Sierra and 80% chance you'll die. Crash a Focus and 80% chance you'll live.
It has enough power for todays roads and can be used everyday without having to worry if your gearbox is on its last legs or the head gasket blowing up.
Crash a Sierra and 80% chance you'll die. Crash a Focus and 80% chance you'll live.
It has enough power for todays roads and can be used everyday without having to worry if your gearbox is on its last legs or the head gasket blowing up.
17-09-2010, 07:10 AM
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focus every day of the week
track road and looks
much much prefer to buy a focus.
the 3dr/500 dont do it for me
i would have another saff over a 500 too
track road and looks
much much prefer to buy a focus.
the 3dr/500 dont do it for me
i would have another saff over a 500 too
