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Old 17-07-2010, 10:36 AM
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is it 60mph?

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Old 17-07-2010, 10:38 AM
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Dual carriageway - national speed limit = 70mph
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depends what your driving or any signs stating different.

i thought most of milton keynes was 50.

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in a CAR it's 70
Old 17-07-2010, 10:45 AM
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Speed limits
The national speed limit applies on dual carriageways (unless it is in a 'built-up area', or a lower limit is posted), which is as follows:
National speed limits on dual carriageways in the UKType of vehicleSpeed limit
Car, motorcycle or a car-based van up to 2 metric tonnes70 mph
Car with caravan or trailer60 mph
Bus or coach up to 12 m long60 mph
Goods vehicle up to 7.5 t60 mph
Goods vehicle over 7.5 t50 mph
A dual carriageway in a built up area will have a statutory speed limit of 30mph unless otherwise sign-posted. It is common for such urban dual carriageways to have an increased speed limit of 40mph. A built up road is indicated by the presence of street lights, on lit dual carriageways that are not considered to be in a built-up area, the speed limit will be clarified with intermittent signs
Old 17-07-2010, 10:47 AM
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Was in a car..
Thanks.

70 isn't so bad
Old 17-07-2010, 10:55 AM
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Its 60 in a non car derived Van, thats how i done done, was going 70 in a transit
Old 17-07-2010, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by erjones
thats how i done done, was going 70 in a transit
they could pay off the national deficit if they gave a ticket to every transit van that exceeded the speed limit
Old 17-07-2010, 12:23 PM
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Had this out with my mate ages ago he was adamant it was 60. Would not accept it was 70 Yet he agreed it was 70 on the A1
Old 17-07-2010, 12:27 PM
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70 in a transit etc etc on the motorway 60 on the dauly
Old 17-07-2010, 01:13 PM
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I always thought it was 60 but obviously not after reading your replies
Old 17-07-2010, 05:50 PM
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It isnt 60, it isnt 70, it isnt any made up number here.

The speed limit will be as displayed on the signs on each road, depending on the vehicle you are driving.

National speed limit for cars will be 70mph, and most small vans.

Any goods vehicle with a GVW over 2000kgs, will be 60mph. I think that also applies to vehicles with over 8+ seats.
Lorries and trucks, caravans, trailers etc etc will all carry different limits too.

http://www.abd.org.uk/know_your_speed_limits.htm

It's the vans that will catch many out, as most Van's ( ie transit size ) will fall foul of lower limits.

But as all modern vehicles get heavier etc...there are now some small vans that fall foul of the over 2000kgs GVW.
VW Caddy, some Berlingo type vans now exceed a GVW of 2000kgs, albeit very slightly.
Given how big of wankers cops can be, it is possible some would do you for this.

As with all speeding laws, its a total joke though. Given the amount of cars, SUV's etc that are well over 2000kgs unladen, they dont seem to get hit with the restrictions.
So a Range Rover etc, that is 2.7t unladen, can go faster legally than a small van nowhere near that weight.

As for busses and coaches...they seem to be able to do whatever speed they like.
Old 17-07-2010, 06:45 PM
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what other traffic rules are you not familiar with Westy? perhaps it's time you read the highway code again. a theory test should have to be taken every 10 years i reckon.
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Old 17-07-2010, 06:58 PM
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I have got the highway code right here with me now, on single carriageways, the speed limit is 60mph, on dual carriageways and motorways the speed limit is 70mph.
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Originally Posted by gjh
I have got the highway code right here with me now, on single carriageways, the speed limit is 60mph, on dual carriageways and motorways the speed limit is 70mph.
Unless it is signposted otherwise, and including all the variations.

So its hard to make such a statement
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steveie has a point, we all ASSUMED westy asked about NSL, but he wasnt specific
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needs to be very careful there is a dual carraigeway near me where i got done recently for doing 71mph and they said the speed limit was 60mph although the signs a national speed limit signs. I was informed that although it was a dual carraigeway the limit was 60 because there was no cental reservation on parts of the road.
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behave chopster...

I'll be honest... I though all dual carrageays were 60... Snd obviously, I stick to 60.

But when I saw the gun it did make me think.... Its definately 70, 2 lanes either side... Thank f**k I wasn't gunning it, as its a fast road
Old 17-07-2010, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Unless it is signposted otherwise, and including all the variations.

So its hard to make such a statement
I didn't mention that cause somebody else already had, was just trying to sum it up simply
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What central reasrvation did it have as that will tell you the speed
Old 17-07-2010, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CRABBY
needs to be very careful there is a dual carraigeway near me where i got done recently for doing 71mph and they said the speed limit was 60mph although the signs a national speed limit signs. I was informed that although it was a dual carraigeway the limit was 60 because there was no cental reservation on parts of the road.
A road having more than one lane in one or both directions is not a dual carriageway unless there is a physical divide between the traffic flows.

This stuff is all pretty fundamental and I can't believe that so many car/driving enthusiasts don't KNOW this stuff.
Old 17-07-2010, 08:58 PM
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so are people carriers classed as cars? what i mean by this is, for example, peugeot expert tippee..basically a van with windows and seats in the back..i have an expert van so can it be classed as a car derived van or is the tippee a van? hope that makes sense
Old 17-07-2010, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Spiky
What central reasrvation did it have as that will tell you the speed
a metal one with a few daisies growing underneath
Old 17-07-2010, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dangerousbrian
so are people carriers classed as cars? what i mean by this is, for example, peugeot expert tippee..basically a van with windows and seats in the back..i have an expert van so can it be classed as a car derived van or is the tippee a van? hope that makes sense

Oddly, the difference seems to be "goods vehicles"

Heavy pieces of junk that are jeeps and people carriers, dont seem to fall into that category. It is mental that the law is forced onto some vans, yet not these given the weight of such vehicles.


but then, most motoring laws are mental
Old 18-07-2010, 06:49 AM
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In Norwich, we have a dual carriageway with central reservation and the speed limit is 50mph which is sign posted. So don't just focus on the Highway Code, focus on the sign post too!
Old 18-07-2010, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by dangerousbrian
so are people carriers classed as cars? what i mean by this is, for example, peugeot expert tippee..basically a van with windows and seats in the back..i have an expert van so can it be classed as a car derived van or is the tippee a van? hope that makes sense
People carriers are cars.

P-Expert converted / built at the factory will be a people carrier /car. If it's a goods vehicle it should have a plate stating it's GVW.

If an Expert converted to a people carrier or minibus/ taxi AFTER it leaves the factory it's still a van, i.e goods vehicle over 2000kg, unless it's description is changed on the v.5.

Range Rovers, other similar 4 x4's and quad cab pick ups weighing over 2000kg are classed as dual purpose.
Car speed limits apply to those, I've never been too sure about 2 /3 seat pick ups over 2000kgs tho'

The goods vehicle speed limits are another archaic law / rule similar to stopping distances, they were set when goods vehicles took half a mile to stop.
Modern vans can stop as quick as most modern cars even loaded, the problem is there are still 20 and 30 year old vans that can't, so the law has to stay.

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Originally Posted by Westy
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I'll be honest... I though all dual carrageays were 60... S
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Fuck me there's some highway code boffin's here. I let instinct be the judge of how fast I can go, and if any of the gestapo are lurking about
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dan, im sure the "i drove on instinct" argument wouldnt hold up in court
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Originally Posted by Westy
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is it your time of the month bitch?
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
is it your time of the month bitch?

Looks to me like he had a few beers on his own at home and decided to log on to a ford forum and give it the big one mate

What a full on schlong!
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