Cosworthfanboy

Anyone got any good ideas for a first car? Bearing in mind im gonna be 17 so its gotta be fairly cheap (under £800?) my friend picked up a punto gt turbo, god knows what his insurance will be! I was looking at a big slow diesel like a 2.0 mondeo or passat tdi... Or not?...

damien roe

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my first car was a gsi cav i wouldn't drive nothing smaller

Cosworthfanboy

Haha, I wish I could have something like that but the word 'gsi' would add an extra 0 instantly!

massivewangers

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If you want something little, a 1.25i Fiesta isn't a bad bet if you can afford the insurance. Get a MK4 for that easily, maybe a MK5 if you looked. Decent chassis and feels reasonably nippy. Can always upgrade the engine later.

Ka is another one, great chassis also and cheap insurance. Looks a bit girly as standard, but can be toughened up with the right bits.

The other suspects are Escorts and Mondeo's and things but I would think insurance on those would be a bit higher.

Of course you could look at 106s/Saxos/Puntos etc etc etc, but this is a Ford forum, and I think the 1.25 Fez is the best of that bunch really!

botters

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just get quotes before you buy anything, at your age being quoted over 5 grand to insure a 1.1 fiesta is not uncommon. the cheapest quote i got my 17 year old apprentice was 2500 on a 1.1 pug 205, even on our traders policy at work they will not let him drive anything over a 1.4

issysdad

Although this is a Ford forum, I'd recommend something like a VW Lupo or SEAT Arosa! Nippy, cheap and cheap to insure (Insurance group 1 IIRC) they handle like go karts!

botters

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you will have no chance on a passat or mondeo unfortunatley mate

Escow-Van

Diesel Mondeo's start at group 8 for the Tddi. Unfortunately, you don't get to drive nice cars when you've just passed your test.

botters

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not anymore you dont
i had a 205gti for my first car insurance was 950 fullycomp
would be more like 9500 for a 17 year old these days!

Cosworthfanboy

Yeah thanks all, I see your point. Theres a kid I seen today though, looked no older than me, had a nice passat tdi.. Must have been his dads! I think the insurance is fair nowdays though with all these idiots on the road... The only other option is the pushbike for another few years.. And I will have the 'fastford donations tin' on my bedroom side!

NoRubNoDub

Halfruads spec corsa?

Chopshop85

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Get yourself something slow cheap and shite. Then start saving your pennies for something you would like to have in a few years time, or start a project and do a bit each month until its ready and you can afford to insure it.

My first car was a mk2 fiesta! £100 with 10 months tax and MOT! Then I just saved the rest of my money till I could insure something better.

kent discos

at 17 i went straight into a connect van... £1690 for insurance!

scottyrs

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shop around for insurance but if you want to stick with getting a ford then it would have to be a fiesta if your not really fussed 1.0 corsa ect

Hobomassiv

i vote ka/fez. cheap and then easy to drop a bigger engine in after a year or so ncb!

kent discos

a corsa B/fez/ka is the way to go... they wont be all that much on insurance... but a corsa C... even a 1litre will put you over £2500!!

fiestamad

i have a punto 1.2 at the min passed my test a month ago and mine is £800 fully comp on my own policy thats with 1 year no claim as i rode a ped for a year

Mk1-stu

my first motor at 17 was a mk1 fez 997cc, insurance fully comp was 650 quid with my mum on it as a named driver. paid 120 quid for the car and probably didn't even spend that much on petrol over the year

Jeffers_RST

my first car was a '99 T focus 1.6 zetec 3dr nice little car and probably alot more kit than my mates saxos and all that stuff and i think i payed near on 2k to insure it tpft which werent bad seein as tho some people pay about 2500 for 1.25 fiestas and that then i wrote it off into a '05 bmw 745. lol. and then i had a 1.8 5dr which was exactly the same to insure as the 1.6 3dr just cos of how many doors it had.
Neil. x

dave_s2_rst

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My first car was a mk2 xr2, paid £1150 for the insurance but wasn't to bad as most my age were paying silly amounts

Cosworthfanboy

Wow, these last few posts have changed things. See I have around £1800 to insure and theres some interesting cars. I would like a focus actually, if it was insurable. anyone know the smallest engine size in one.. 1.4? :s .. another one would be a mk1/2 fiesta but theres none on ebay! Thanks anyway guys, much appreciated :d

Mk1-stu

Dude, cars like mk1/2 fezzies aren't the sort of thing your gonna get cheap on ebay, the world and it's mate buys them when they're on there for silly money. Keep an eye in your local newspapers classified adds - that's where i got mine ! old fella owned it, gave it to his daughter who used it a while and i bought it off her, had silly fuckin mileage on it, bout 54k iirc ! (admitedly that was 12 yrs ago now)

Shame my arsehole ex-brother in law torched it for me really

Cosworthfanboy

Ahh that explains why then! thanks mate and I have my eyes everywhere looking for a cheap car at the min! I know I cant be fussy neither so I shouldnt go round choosing specific cars I want just yet!

martysmartie

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Focus is a good choice, yes the smallest engine is 1.4, insurance premium can be inside your budget as well.

Defo would not have a Corsa/Saxo.

Martin

Cosworthfanboy

Thankyou, Will de shopping around for one then sorry for all the questins but any adive on the best one? diesel?..5 door i believe too..and I hear that corsas and things are known boy racer cars now so they arent cheap..?

vroooom ptssssh

My first car was my Series 1 Rst, went on as a 2nd driver for a year and it cost £560 tpft for the year. Awesome!

Cosworthfanboy

doubt it would be as cheap for me

Rsmat

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peel p50...would suit you mate....

Cosworthfanboy

hahaha, never thought of that one!

Hobomassiv

I insured my first car which was a ka and with pass pluss i got 1200 TPFT

Lambchop

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Bloke op. You seem to be a bloke if you're called Neil. kisses? Weirdo

Shings

Do yourself a favour... before getting ideas of 800 for a car and 1800 for insurance go and get a quote.

You dont have enough for the insurance - let alone both.

My brother is 18... £3300 tpft on any car you can think of between 1978 to 2008 and anything from 998 to 1298cc and any value from £500 to £5000 quid.

Parked on the drive, not the worst area in the world.

Yes you can get it cheaper by sticking your nan and her dog on as named driver and yes cheaper still if you are the named driver and your nans dog is the man driver.

Cosworthfanboy

hahaha, well I will look into asking my nans dog to be the main driver haha, thanks mate, all took on board..

Cosworthfanboy

I intend on doing pass pluss.. Does it save much?

lozi

Mk2 fiesta, slam it on some pepper pots and drive the hell out of it, once you have inevitably killed it as its your first car get something newer and nicer!

mattseries2

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Best thing to do is get that years no claims behind you, it cuts insurance in half! Just get the cheapest car you can insure and keep it for a year and save for your fast ford!

I did this...brought an S2 RST and with a years no claims was £1500 to insure 3rd party F/T which i didnt think was bad for a 200bhp car at 18!

Cosworthfanboy

To me that is a sensible and great idea! oh how I'd love one of those

ben_frst

fiat cinquecento

cheap for everything tax, insurance, parts

abuse it for a couple of years and leave it smoking by the side of the road

thats what i did to my first one, the 2nd i paid £200 for with a blown head gasket fixed it then thrashed it for a year and sold it for £200

Ben

ben_frst

they do great burnouts and doughnuts and will also drive on 2 wheels + you can crash into ppl who block you in as you dont give a toss about the car lol

lozi

Mate they are cheap to buy and if you get a 1.0 or 1.1 popular they are cheap to insure! plus with a mk2 you could just keep it forever and progress it into an absolute beast over the years lol