Munch

Just been out with my mate in his 200sx, he is running just about 300bhp'ish & he is a biker at heart (Just Sold his mental R1), anyway, he were going down road to drop me off, when he see's a bike (he is thinking it is a 600) & he just says that'll be an awesome race, so he wacks the Boost up & gives chase....Got to the dual carriage. Bike stops to give way, then Shoots off, my mate is sideways off the junction pretty much, chasing after this bike, the bike is pulling away at this point (my mate just says to me, no way is that a 600cc) but not as fast as you might think it would as by the time my mate had got to about a 100-130mph he is starting to reel him in, got to 150 & we are catching him even better, my mate backs off at 150 as we are hitting a slight bend.
Now if my mate were to carry on, we woulda catched him up about 160+ & prob's passed him. We got off the Duelly & stopped at the traffic lights, Pulled up next to the bike, Asked him what it was, it was a (newish?) Sukuki GSXR 750!!!

my mates 200sx has a off the shelve chip & full exhaust, Interooler & a set of Nismo injectors, so it is gotta be 300bhp+ on the standard turbo or near, It also has a knackered turbo that whines its tits off & has a standard clutch in which can't handle the power so it slips every now & again on hard boost....

I still can't believe how well it did against a 750cc bike at that level of tuning!

Can't wait to see what is gonna be like with a Live Map & the turbo rebuilt & a decent clutch!!!


He tells me a 750cc is a fast bike too! Suprised

Chopshop85

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That story is about as believable as the bible!

A 300bhp car that weighs 1100 kg (with a dodgy turbo and slipping clutch )
vs
A 130bhp bike that weighs 190kg.

Do the maths. lol

Munch

MATE, believe what ya like, I fucking seen it with my own EYES!!!


we were both shocked, as he is a biker which proper shocked him as he thought he was gonna get spanked....I fucking wish i had filmed it,


The guy on the bike, was cool, he just laughed & said yeah its a 750 & was giving it all. Top Bloke, no bullshit excuse at the lights after aswel, As he knew the car woulda caught him up eventually

Munch

His is an 200sx s14a too by the way which is 200bhp standard?

B16JUS

Ive had fast bikes and fast cars, a newish gsxr 750 is a fast light bike, if the bike was being riden hard there is no way you would catch it let alone stick with it.

but as a biker id say a lot of the time on a bike my balls reduce anything over 130 140 the road and weather have to be perfect for me to keep it nailed and the same with bends etc

J

CoupeUK

No chance, either the 200SX is about 500hp or the bike was on half throttle, if he had it properly pinned he'd be off into the distance like a shot.

Rob84

the standard T28's on them shit themselves at anything over 1.2bar of boost. My S14a made 300.1bhp with the standard turbo at 1 bar, Tomei 555cc injectors, front mounted 'cooler, tubi manifold, exhaust with decat etc.

It wont make much more then 320bhp MAX unless the turbo is uprated whilst being rebuilt, no matter how good the map is

Munch

it was running 1.3 bar which has shagged it mate...It is whinning like mad...Coming off at the weekend


By can vouch for a at that level, a 200sx is fast & will pull easy past the clock? at 160

B16JUS

but real mph is more like 140 - 145 tops

coco16i

Would take a seriously fast car to wind in and keep up with a GSXR 750 if it was being riden to anywhere near its full potential

If the bike was giving it everything it had he would have been nothing but a spec on the horizon unless you were in a car with around 500bhp.


Bike acceleration = 0-60 around 3 seconds, 0-140 around 10 or 12 seconds.... is the car anywhere near as quick as that ????

If the bike was going flat out it would have topped out around 170ish, takes someone with HUGE gonads to hold that speed for any more than a few seconds ! Somehow i reckon the biker was just playing and not going for it.

JK12

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pics or it didnt happen!!

Chris Honeywell

you said you were approaching 150mph into a slight bend if the biker had any sense then he would of slowed down.
You don't want to be going that speed approaching a bend with a car trying to close you down unless u want to die.

dojj

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i've raced a few bikes in my time
when they realise you are giving it some beans and theyhave the nuts to giev it beans too, they tend to pull away rather rapidly

the rider was probably not as able a rider as your mate thought he was

Rod-Tarry

DDD:
The problem is you believing this total Bullshit. To start beating a 750 bike you would need at least 600bhp in that car & even then he would pull away below 100mph. You need a serious reality check mate, i will supply a biker you bring that car & we will time them in proper conditions, all your mates believe it do they .

Munch

the bend was hardly a bend...its on a duel carriage way, could of easy kept it pinned but my mates 200sx is on standard suspension & brakes, he just chickened out

like i say, i saw the bike with my own eyes, till about 130ish he was all over us, the time we were hitting 150 he wasn't loosing us & he started to look bigger as we were reeling him in.

Im gonna be getting a Sony Bloogie now, a Pocket size camcorder that'll be able to take out with me incase it happens again!

Munch

Was only a matter of time before you entered wasnt it....


Like i say, by the time we were hitting 150ish, he just wasnt pulling away, he was several car lengths in front of us by wasnt pulling away no more & were catching, slowly but we were catching, Prob's hit the limiter by the time we got anywhere close to him


So what sorta BHP would you need then Rod to beat a 600?

Lambchop

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Thanks rod, not often i agree with you


It's that time of year where the bullshit starts when the bikes come out. I'll try not to bite too much here but will next time

Chip

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sounds like your mates 200sx should easily do quarters under 11 seconds if he is beating 750cc sports bikes.

AWESOME car by the sounds of it.

Your mates car is definately quicker than my nova with 1060kg and 457bhp was then, as that was only just about a match for a 600cc sports bike.

Your mate must be very proud of his unbelievable car.

graham c

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i had a do with a k5 750 when i had my ecos it woz 380-410 touqes and i woz just sat on his ass up by pass only got to 130 tho as we had gone 4 it out of round about ! he woz shocked to say the least i,ve had bike and love them but it 15 grand car v 7 grand bike, do them maths?

TOMMY_RS

sounds like bull shit to me,
also, i agree with u lambchop, its this time of year when you hear every one going on about how they did 160 here and there,

Munch

ive think you've all read it wrong


Like i say, from the junction, he was all over us, he was pulling away like were in a fiesta not a 200sx but by the time we had got upto speed (over 130) we were slowly catching him up, we still wanst anywhere near him or but you could see him getting bigger & bigger as we were approching him, i didnt say we were beating him, just catching him up....Slowly but we were....never passed him

So don't read it wrong by saying he thrashed it & went past him becuase isnt the case

Chip

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Dont play down now how totally awesome your mates amazing car the likes of which we havent ever seen before is.
You were already reeling him in at about a 100-130mph apparently mate, that 200sx has got to be AT LEAST 500bhp on its fucked standard turbo, impressive stuff, definately quicker than my nova going by your results

This was what really happened apparently, so dont go pretending people have misread anything:

bob s2zvh

Can't wait to see what is gonna be like with a Live Map & the turbo rebuilt & a decent clutch!!!


probably be able to wipe your new zx10 chop with that speck! lol he could dream!

dojj

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anyone got a link to the youtube vid of a honda bike going up against the honda f1 cars?
and beating it?
10 second 1/4s or there about?

bob s2zvh

jenson button vs michael rutter vs some guy in a boat? thiink the f1 car won but not by much?

Rsmat

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all i can say is biker was easy on the throttle mate has it would have easily destroyed you and your mate. with a better rider on.

dojj

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that's the one

when they had some heat intot he tyres of the f1 car stomped it, but the first time round the bike gave it a pasting

ffs, even them little go ped scooter type things nowadays can have most cars off the line up to about 30 mph

Markb_s1

something was very wrong with the bike imo.

FletchCossie

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It's obvious when a car and a bike race.... The car driver has their foot to the floor in every gear. The rider has as much throttle as he is brave enough to give. Your actually comparing the riders bravery against the cars speed!

graham c

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i,d ride my bike full throttle but a 400 horse car will keep up with 750 ! go out and find one

CoupeUK

Car vs bike....GSXR750 vs 800+hp AWD GTR R33

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xtTMWd1HE0

Skyline still got toasted lmfao

CoupeUK

And aint 130 around the top of 2nd gear on a 750? limited to 186?

R4N SS

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i have raced a few bikes in my time and i can say that after 100mph its usually advantage to the car.

Blew my first engine racing a Kwak ZX6 (or 9 cant remember but more likely a 6) up the m4 slip road and a few jcts down. Up the slip road off the lights he had the launch on me and but by the end of the slip road there wasnt much in it - especially when we wound them both upto over 150mph and i was inches off his back wheel and on/off the throttle - as a result i dropped a valve ruining the whole engine and turbo.

In summary bikes are quick but as said already it does depend upon the size of the rider's gonads.

gotta say a quick 400-500bhp car will give most bikes a good race from 100mph onwards.

ajamesc

my cosie in gear on the move id say about 60+ is as fast if not more the more u go above 100 than my 98 r1 with out dought but i do have about 500bhp and about the same torque!. Theirs is nothing better than being out on a sunny sunday looking for bikers lol they think they are comeing bye but they carnt lol they are impressed though always give u the nod.

Munch

I don't care what you say, Maybe the bike wasnt been riden properly or whatever...i am just saying what i saw

I don't EVER put up a post like this or anything, Bullshitting isnt for me

Chopshop85

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So basically, the biker smoked off into the distance. Then when he had proved his point he probably let of, then after a few minutes you finally started to reel him in?
Its just another classic story of racing someone that probably wasn't trying.

you didnt even achieve the "loser flyby" lol

The other week I managed to pass a bugatti veyron! Granted he was stopped in traffic in the next lane. Just saying what I saw though.

LHD220Turbo

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it wouldnt be the blagrove dual carriage way would it Lee?

LHD220Turbo

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfVNIZ0RKik

Munch

a419 mate, Highwoth Rd junction, till just past the slight bend on the A419 (just past the garden centre) is where he backed off, then carried on after till the lights at blunsdon Stadium

R5FORD

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i think that vid puts an end to this thread