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Old 03-04-2010, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Fast Guy
You should be able to hit 1.6s or less with 4wd on the 60ft. I'd expect your car to hit low/mid 11s easy.

My old montego could do the 60ft in 2.3s. My Gtir can do it in 1.6s, see my sig.
i would hope so. it was my first ever launch in the car so theres more to come with practice.
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
it was spinning all four earlier i have it on slightly rear bias and she kicked her arse out.
What tyres have u got? Reckon a set of -888's would make grip a bit better and improve ya 60ft remarksbaily (sp?)
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Originally Posted by Smit
What tyres have u got? Reckon a set of -888's would make grip a bit better and improve ya 60ft remarksbaily (sp?)
there falken 265/35/18 all round. there virtually brand new aswell came on the car when i bought it.
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ive just been reading through the book some more and they talk of shallow staging like you can do at a proper drag strip, so you get up to 12 inches of tyre roll before the clock starts, ive eliminated that with 0 inches aloud for staging so technically i think i should have it accurate. they mention pitch adjustment aswell but apparently i will have to run at a drag strip and compare to set that, ive set it so as i get no advantage for better accuracy.
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well the pitch correction factor seems to be about right as they say 2d for each g of acceleration, and my peak g is 1.
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Originally Posted by WongRS
my 60 ft is 1.78



Thats with a fairly violent launch though!
thats awesome mate, i assume that was all grip and not wheelspinning
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
whats a good 60ft time to get ? im assuming my car should be capable of an 11.5 ish 1/4 at pod with the right driver. dont forget she is a fat arse as with me in there and full of fuel its about 1600 kg.
I'd say it'd do a low 11 high 10 if a perfect run going on the 128mph terminal you got on 1 run.

I wonder how accurate these devices are, anybody ran 1 at pod? To see what they show?

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Originally Posted by RickyLee53
I'd say it'd do a low 11 high 10 if a perfect run going on the 128mph terminal you got on 1 run.

I wonder how accurate these devices are, anybody ran 1 at pod? To see what they show?

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red r racing in nz reckons hes within 1 or 2 tenths and 1 or 2 mph at the strip.

this is the vid i found of testing it


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmfwg5eoAFs
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
thats awesome mate, i assume that was all grip and not wheelspinning
That was spinning all 4 through 1st gear and a bit in 2nd, its an arse to launch mine, you have 2 choices, bog it down or spin all 4(well, 3 technically)!
Its not ridiculous sit on the spot wheel spin though, so it doesn't loose me much time i dont think!
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how much and were did you get it from really like this and want one cheers
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Originally Posted by cossie0_4
how much and were did you get it from really like this and want one cheers
here you go mate


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Gtech-Pro-RR-P...item5882b6caf4

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We tested one against the ultra accurate Datron timing gear. The Gtech was fairly accurate, but was up to half a second out at 100. It was also affected depending how you drive - it was less accurate if you were aggressive and very jerky.

It's a laugh, but it's not something you can rely on as gospel.

Edit: just seen how much the Gtech is!!! That's the same as a Racelogic Performance box!!

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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
We tested one against the ultra accurate Datron timing gear. The Gtech was fairly accurate, but was up to half a second out at 100. It was also affected depending how you drive - it was less accurate if you were aggressive and very jerky.

It's a laugh, but it's not something you can rely on as gospel.

Edit: just seen how much the Gtech is!!! That's the same as a Racelogic Performance box!!
i done my research before purchase and it seems the results are pretty easy to exagerate. its certainly close enough for my use anyways.
the biggest innacuracy is the start with this rollout staging part that ive eliminated completeley to make it as accurate as possible.
roads need to be flat and needs to be a straight pull as pulling left or right will give exagerated readings due to the gs.
used properly in proper condition they are within 2 tenths and 2 mph so i am led to believe.
and also pitch factor, i am going to pod this year and will run the gtech on my run and compare to make sure it set up correctly.
im not trying to break any world records so 2 tenths of a second and 2 mph is feck all to me.

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there all shit lol cant beat proper timing gear
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Why didn't you buy a Performance box? Very accurate and the same price?
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any time you save on the 60ft can usually be doubled at the end, so you have a very low 11 in there.
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Originally Posted by Jay_
there all shit lol cant beat proper timing gear
i can understand this fully when trying to break records, they are accurate enough for what i want.
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
Why didn't you buy a Performance box? Very accurate and the same price?
i have seen results where the performance box has given another 10th over the gtech. as far as i understand it there much the same but i prefer the layout of the gtech. the accuracy is in the opperator imo. i could make the gtech show a 10 second 1/4 i think by shallow staging on a 16" rollout but whats the point.

the 1/4 mile side is a bonus as are all the features becasue in truth i bought it for an accurate 30 - 130 mph time which it gives me as the start is eliminated from this equation.
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Originally Posted by Rick
any time you save on the 60ft can usually be doubled at the end, so you have a very low 11 in there.
which is about right for the spec, so ive read on the forums on a perfect run it should be an 11 something second car.
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The PB is GPS based and very accurate though? The GTech is a 'bit of fun'. Just seems an odd choice to go for the least accurate one. Not trying to cause an argument or anything, just curious really.
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
The PB is GPS based and very accurate though? The GTech is a 'bit of fun'. Just seems an odd choice to go for the least accurate one. Not trying to cause an argument or anything, just curious really.
no mate its all good

i guess the gps is less susceptable to innaccuracy but the inaccuracys of the gtech are down to operator error. i just like it, the software is cool.

with a gps if you cant get signal (which is an issue i have with my tom tom and road angel where i live) they will not work.

just my personal preference mate.
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Originally Posted by Jay_
there all shit lol cant beat proper timing gear
Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
Why didn't you buy a Performance box? Very accurate and the same price?
Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
The PB is GPS based and very accurate though? The GTech is a 'bit of fun'. Just seems an odd choice to go for the least accurate one. Not trying to cause an argument or anything, just curious really.
thats my point karl the g tech is just a gimmick i find it strange that your a clever bloke buying tat the arse dyno always wins
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I wouldn't say it's 'tat' Jay. It's a fun little gadget. Just a rather expensive fun little gadget
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Originally Posted by Jay_
thats my point karl the g tech is just a gimmick i find it strange that your a clever bloke buying tat the arse dyno always wins

lol i wouldnt take any of the meters gtech or performance box as gospel to within 0.1 of a second, there all a muchness imo near enough for the mear mortel. tbh imo i think it would take ££££ worth of gear to guarantee every 0.1 of a second.

and anyways that gtst wouldnt have enough oooummph to be worth having a performance meter in it lol

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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
I wouldn't say it's 'tat' Jay. It's a fun little gadget. Just a rather expensive fun little gadget
i cant agree on that mate a gadget is to weak a word for it imo. as ive said im not that anal to expect 0.1 mph accuracy especially not for £250.
for an enthusiast like myself the gtech or performance box are more than ampel.
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
lol i wouldnt take any of the meters gtech or performance box as gospel to within 0.1 of a second, there all a muchness imo near enough for the mear mortel. tbh imo i think it would take ££££ worth of gear to guarantee every 0.1 of a second.
i guarantee its about as accurate as a blind man playing darts

Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
and anyways that gtst wouldnt have enough oooummph to be worth having a performance meter in it lol
depends what ur oooooummph means imo straight line speed means fuckall to me karl track is my thing now so 600 bhp is useless if you cant get it down and a 300 bhp 1976 lotus sunbeam can lap quicker so ill save my £250 for slicks

but if it makes you happy mate its all good
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Originally Posted by Jay_
i guarantee its about as accurate as a blind man playing darts



depends what ur oooooummph means imo straight line speed means fuckall to me karl track is my thing now so 600 bhp is useless if you cant get it down and a 300 bhp 1976 lotus sunbeam can lap quicker so ill save my £250 for slicks

but if it makes you happy mate its all good
well ive just read a test report for the performance box and gtech and fair does the performance box was within 1 tenth whereas gtech was within 2 tenths.
but more interestingly with using 0 rollout like i have the 60 ft and 1/4 times were consistently 2 tenths of a second HIGHER than the vbox 111.
so in the settings i have now my times are tecnically higher than they would of been at a drag strip by 2 tenths average.

lol at a blind man playing darts. it aint far off jay the same as my arse dyno aint

as for track my car would be a weapon as the pace is unreal and you have traction to go with it. but you have the weight saving on your side il give ya that mate. its all about out and out straight line speed and grip for me though mate, il never have enough hp lol
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http://www.performancebox.co.uk/down...CHvPB_Test.pdf

well according to this test report the gtech was within 0.05 seconds of a racelogic v box using 12" rollout, so im gonna change back to 12" and do some more runs as the ones ive done are higher times than they should be.
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
The PB is GPS based and very accurate though? The GTech is a 'bit of fun'. Just seems an odd choice to go for the least accurate one. Not trying to cause an argument or anything, just curious really.
in reply to this again reference here :

http://www.performancebox.co.uk/down...CHvPB_Test.pdf

the gtech was closer to 1/4 time than the performance meter by alot when using 12" rollout, so in that situation gtech gave a more accurate result.

if anything the performance box makes you look quicker the gtech makes you slower than you actually are. look at the comparisons at the bottom gtech is all + numbers, performance box is -.

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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
the 12.4 1/4 is 2.4 60 ft.
13.7 was a 3.0 60ft
so 0.6 quicker on my 60 ft yielded 1.3 seconds quicker 1/4 time.
does that mean theoretically a 1.8 60ft would be roughly 11.1 seconds 1/4 mile time ?
You may find if it really hooks up, it doesnt make as much boost in the first couple of gears and as a result you stop seeing the increased gains.

But an 11 is looking very likely, just not one that low probably.

Wont know till you actually get to the pod and try though
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Originally Posted by Chip
You may find if it really hooks up, it doesnt make as much boost in the first couple of gears and as a result you stop seeing the increased gains.

But an 11 is looking very likely, just not one that low probably.

Wont know till you actually get to the pod and try though

ive been to hard on myself aswell chipster trying to make it accurate in the set up and its going to of added time, ive altered it now ready for another go. that 12.4 should be a 12.2 with 12" rollout. same with 60ft should be 2.2.
its early days im still learning its nice to of read an unbiased review, i was advised by red r racing to run 12" but i thought i was inflating the figures by doing so, but i was wrong it seems.

either way i love the car its immense its nice to have some figures and know there accurate within a tenth or 2
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in the mk3 wenny & me have done a 1.6 60ft think we both got 1.6 60ft in the nail to
my best 0-60 is 3.4 in the nail wenny has a 2.8 i think

still your times are good as there not small light cars gtr's

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Originally Posted by blacky.
in the mk3 weny & me have done a 1.6 60ft think we both got 1.6 60ft in the nail to
my best 0-60 is 3.4 in the nail wenny has a 2.8 i think

still your times are good as there not small light cars gtr's
im happy so far, 60mph above is as good as its gonna get without more boost but theres lots more to come in the launch area with practice.

im gonna use the stage lights and rollout now with reaction aswell to start practicing for the pod

if tyres arent upto the job im gonna have to get some better ones.
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Ye grip is the issue with getting off the line
the mk3 spins all the wheels most of 1st gear that's on soft compound 888's
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Originally Posted by blacky.
Ye grip is the issue with getting off the line
the mk3 spins all the wheels most of 1st gear that's on soft compound 888's
im gonna go see prices of 888s right now there 255/35/18 so im probably gonna

my falkens are new but shit compound i assume ? just looked the falken fk452, 255/35/18 y.

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888s at the moment are mega money, bought some just over a year ago for my clio, and the same tyres now are 50% dearer!
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Originally Posted by Chip
888s at the moment are mega money, bought some just over a year ago for my clio, and the same tyres now are 50% dearer!
i cant find a price yet but the t1rs are £170 each so i guess 888 are £250 + each
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this is with 12" rollout.

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thats better mate ,but how come you managed a 128 terminal on one run ?
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Originally Posted by crazycage
thats better mate ,but how come you managed a 128 terminal on one run ?
i dont know mate. its seems off to me that when you have rollout time your gaining 12" which was about 4 mph at clock start time on that last run and 0.4 of a second gained in the rollout area. but i should be able to do this at pod by just rolloing forward enough to bring the lights on shallow staging.


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