FAO Stu MSD.. RE Closed Loop fuelling
16-01-2005, 01:50 PM
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as gus said really not much more to add apart from i personally would not have anything else now. why be content with mediocrity when excellance is within reach. 
16-01-2005, 04:53 PM
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Thanks Fellas, thought it would be better coiming from independant customers than me, as im hardly likely to say its anything other than good am i?
rapidcossie,
how much to get this kinda set up on my saf Stu?
how much to get this kinda set up on my saf Stu?
16-01-2005, 05:05 PM
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Here we go:
Important
I only insist on live mapping if you want 400s or larger. Standard injectors or Dark Greens can be done either Off The Shelf at our premises or as a DIY conversion with instructions and full telephone backup.
Approximate price guide as follows:
Ł250 inc vat for stage 2** chip and hardware that will make your Level 8 ecu lambda closed loop capable.
M18 x1.5 Steel Lambda boss fitting into downpipe: (Including SS boss) Ł40*
Bosch Lambda sensor Ł80*
Wiring up of lambda heaters and signal wiring to ECU plug with genuine ecu pins and wired to safety engine run relay etc Ł50
Providing you dont need any service parts or anything, then that should cover it. Full DIY kits are available for these stage 2** conversions, including injectors, 3 bar etc if required.
*If you have a turbine housing with integral Ford lambda boss, you can use a genuine Ford sensor instead, these are also available from stock at all times.
**our stage 2 is 803s, 3bar etc. Often known as a 330kit. We dropped the stage 2 (light green 355's) years ago.
Important
I only insist on live mapping if you want 400s or larger. Standard injectors or Dark Greens can be done either Off The Shelf at our premises or as a DIY conversion with instructions and full telephone backup.
Approximate price guide as follows:
Ł250 inc vat for stage 2** chip and hardware that will make your Level 8 ecu lambda closed loop capable.
M18 x1.5 Steel Lambda boss fitting into downpipe: (Including SS boss) Ł40*
Bosch Lambda sensor Ł80*
Wiring up of lambda heaters and signal wiring to ECU plug with genuine ecu pins and wired to safety engine run relay etc Ł50
Providing you dont need any service parts or anything, then that should cover it. Full DIY kits are available for these stage 2** conversions, including injectors, 3 bar etc if required.
*If you have a turbine housing with integral Ford lambda boss, you can use a genuine Ford sensor instead, these are also available from stock at all times.
**our stage 2 is 803s, 3bar etc. Often known as a 330kit. We dropped the stage 2 (light green 355's) years ago.
16-01-2005, 09:17 PM
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evening peeps................
like i said earlier this conversion is awesome
as you can see in my sig i'm running T4, greys, low comp, air/air etc and
probally pushing out a easy 400+ bhp, i had the car lived mapped by stu
because ov several problems that arrised due to a previous live map by
another tuner........
anyhow while chatting to stu before taking my car up he persauded me to
go for closed loop because i all ready had most the essential bits fitted so
it would be a cheap conversion
tbh i did have my doubts not just in the fuel economy and also weather
the car would perform ok under load but stu assured me that there was
several saftey features so my car would be spot on when i thrashed it
well its been several months including a track day and a few thrashes up my
private road
and the car performs faultlessly, it actually drives/starts & gives
me better economy than when i 1st got the car bearing in mind it was a
1 owner, totally standard concourse car with 18,000 mls thats some result !!!!!!
on a good run i can average 34mpg easy compared with 24mpg i averaged before
but still gives me totally perfect performance as soon as i peg it
best comparison i have is last year me & a very good m8 with a 04 plate scooby
wrx sti both filled up @ same station, drove to silverstone and back and when we
refilled @ the same station that night he put Ł7 more than me in the tank
as far as i know both tanks hold same amount so thats a awesome achievment
for a 17yr old car
sorry about the essay peeps but im bored
like i said earlier this conversion is awesome
as you can see in my sig i'm running T4, greys, low comp, air/air etc and
probally pushing out a easy 400+ bhp, i had the car lived mapped by stu
because ov several problems that arrised due to a previous live map by
another tuner........
anyhow while chatting to stu before taking my car up he persauded me to
go for closed loop because i all ready had most the essential bits fitted so
it would be a cheap conversion
tbh i did have my doubts not just in the fuel economy and also weather
the car would perform ok under load but stu assured me that there was
several saftey features so my car would be spot on when i thrashed it
well its been several months including a track day and a few thrashes up my
private road
and the car performs faultlessly, it actually drives/starts & givesme better economy than when i 1st got the car
bearing in mind it was a1 owner, totally standard concourse car with 18,000 mls thats some result !!!!!!
on a good run i can average 34mpg easy compared with 24mpg i averaged before
but still gives me totally perfect performance as soon as i peg it
best comparison i have is last year me & a very good m8 with a 04 plate scooby
wrx sti both filled up @ same station, drove to silverstone and back and when we
refilled @ the same station that night he put Ł7 more than me in the tank
as far as i know both tanks hold same amount so thats a awesome achievment
for a 17yr old car
sorry about the essay peeps but im bored
17-01-2005, 05:25 PM
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Gaaables wrote:
so is mpg the only advantage of closed loop?
so is mpg the only advantage of closed loop?
Im gobsmacked at the difference, not only cruising mpgs, but drivability from cold and general throttle response and sensitivity are massivly improved.Alot of the niggles i was putting down to"oh its an old car, oh its a performance car..etc" are now gone, and the car genuinely feels newer to drive, and in traffic almost compensates your lazy feet, eg i can pretty much set off normally without the acc pedal at all............its like it knows!!!
Hope this helps m8.
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:26 am Post subject:
I bet thats the only time youve ever cruised at 65 Nick
I bet thats the only time youve ever cruised at 65 Nick
love your new mota by the way
18-01-2005, 12:49 PM
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Quote:
Sonic,
but im soooo picky!
Really?
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Best Regards,
Stu
Sonic,
but im soooo picky!
Really?
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Best Regards,
Stu
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:11 pm Post subject:
Hows the old nail Daz, not seen you cruising in her for a while, she run in yet?
19-01-2005, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonic
Hows the old nail Daz, not seen you cruising in her for a while, she run in yet?
05-02-2005, 07:57 AM
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Tuning wise, when I have finished a few things and Bosch has e-mailed me back.
I set them a mail over 2 weeks ago. I shall change my tactics now. I was mailing them every 4 days. Now I shall mail them every day and if that doesn't get their attension then I shall e mail them 70 times a day!
I set them a mail over 2 weeks ago. I shall change my tactics now. I was mailing them every 4 days. Now I shall mail them every day and if that doesn't get their attension then I shall e mail them 70 times a day!
