Once upon a time in London
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Once upon a time in London
A film about Royston Henry Shaw (born 11 March 1936 in Stepney, London), also known as Roy "Pretty Boy" Shaw, Roy "Mean Machine" Shaw and Roy West, is an English millionaire, real estate investor, author and businessman from the East End of London who was formerly a notorious criminal and Category A prisoner
Found it on facebook, anyone heard about it?
Found it on facebook, anyone heard about it?
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pop, lol
Ive copied and pasted what was on facebook, guessing not many use lamebook
By the sounds of it, it sounds a interesting film. It reminds me some what of a western.
Danny Dyer, Frankie Fraser.
Dave Legeno, Lenny Mclean.
Geoff Bell, Jack "The Hat" Mcvitie.
Dexter Fletcher, Eddie Richardson.
Jason Flemyng, Charlie Richardson.
A film about Royston Henry Shaw (born 11 March 1936 in Stepney, London), also known as Roy "Pretty Boy" Shaw, Roy "Mean Machine" Shaw and Roy West, is an English millionaire, real estate investor, author and businessman from the East End of London who was formerly a notorious criminal and Category A prisoner. During the 1960s-1980s, Shaw was a well known and respected figure in the criminal underworld of London and was frequently associated with the Kray twins, Richardson brothers, Frankie Fraser and Freddie Foreman, and Joey Pyle to name a few. Shaw is perhaps best remembered today for his infamous careers as both a professional boxer and an unlicensed fighter, becoming a legend in bare-knuckle boxing and during which time he became arch-rival with the also legendary Lenny McLean.
Shaw was born to a working class family and from an early age was involved in unlawful behaviour. Before and outside of prison, Shaw has mainly lived in Bethnal Green. A reputed tough guy from an early age, he was acquainted with the Kray twins since at least the very early 1960s. Shaw attended the funeral of Reggie Kray in 2000, and was quoted as having said: "We grew up in the same era. They were into protection rackets and I was into blags. I never got in their way and they never got in mine. Ronnie was more of a friend than Reggie, but I've come along today because he was one of the 'chaps'. Today is like the end of an era. The Krays were legends."
Shaw was sentenced to 18 years' imprisonment for a record breaking armed robbery in 1963, one of Englands biggest armoured truck robberies. Shaw "pummelled" his way out of two different holding cells at Her Majestys Prison at Maidstone, assaulting a number of prison guards, the first recorded such instance of this in the British prison system.
Shaw, who claimed he "simply hates the system", and that the "system could never beat him", was consistently moved onto different prisons for the safety of others and spent time at the infamous Broadmoor Hospital, then known as Broadmoor Hospital for Criminally Insane, and generally believed to be the worst prison in Britain at the time, holding the worst offenders in the country. According to Shaw's 2007 autobiography, Pretty Boy, "uncontrollable prisoners, were deliberately drugged up with the aim of turning them into permanent 'cabbages'". At Broadmoor, Shaw underwent experimental electroconvulsive therapy in an attempt to control his temper. His doctor claimed that Shaw had at first come across as a large and intimidating yet soft-spoken gentlemen, but when faced with treatment he didn't want, Shaw became "the most powerful and dangerous man I have ever tried to treat." The doctor reported the treatments as having been a complete failure, and only served to make Shaw even more aggressive and unpredictable.
Shaw routinely stabbed informers and even slashed the throat of a former best friend while incarcerated due to his strong belief in a "code of honour" amongst criminals which must not be broken.
During his time in Broadmoor, Shaw again encountered Ronnie Kray, with whom he had long been acquainted since before their time in prison. Shaw also spent time with such characters as Ronnie Biggs and Charles Bronson behind bars. By 1974, Shaw had already spent around 18 years behind bars, and had spent time in over 22 different prisons.
Shaw started bare knuckle boxing in 1978, aged 42, and gained many infamous victories, including one over Donnie "The Bull" Adams. Roy also beat former world heavy weight contender Ron Stander, who had also previously fought Joe Frazier.
His fights with arch-rival Lenny "The Guvnor" McLean were described by critics as among the bloodiest of the century and drew massive crowds. Shaw beat McLean once, but lost in two other matches to "Britain's hardest man". Shaw has since claimed in his books that they fought only in two matches and not three (the autobiographies of the two men disagree on this point), and that McLean embellished his victories and was nothing more than a bully. However, Shaw has also on occasion stated a begruding respect for McLean and also admiration for McLean's record. According to research published in an online BBC news article regarding the history of the sport in London, McLean and Shaw did indeed fight three bouts, and not two.
At one point, Shaw was sent back behind bars for a series of petty crimes but escaped prison, and for a short time before being recaptured and while on the run from the law, Shaw continued his boxing career under the alias "Roy West".
Roy Shaw's unlicensed fight record is - 11 Fights, 9 Wins, 8 K.O.s, 2 Losses, 0 Draws.
Ive copied and pasted what was on facebook, guessing not many use lamebook
By the sounds of it, it sounds a interesting film. It reminds me some what of a western.
Danny Dyer, Frankie Fraser.
Dave Legeno, Lenny Mclean.
Geoff Bell, Jack "The Hat" Mcvitie.
Dexter Fletcher, Eddie Richardson.
Jason Flemyng, Charlie Richardson.
A film about Royston Henry Shaw (born 11 March 1936 in Stepney, London), also known as Roy "Pretty Boy" Shaw, Roy "Mean Machine" Shaw and Roy West, is an English millionaire, real estate investor, author and businessman from the East End of London who was formerly a notorious criminal and Category A prisoner. During the 1960s-1980s, Shaw was a well known and respected figure in the criminal underworld of London and was frequently associated with the Kray twins, Richardson brothers, Frankie Fraser and Freddie Foreman, and Joey Pyle to name a few. Shaw is perhaps best remembered today for his infamous careers as both a professional boxer and an unlicensed fighter, becoming a legend in bare-knuckle boxing and during which time he became arch-rival with the also legendary Lenny McLean.
Shaw was born to a working class family and from an early age was involved in unlawful behaviour. Before and outside of prison, Shaw has mainly lived in Bethnal Green. A reputed tough guy from an early age, he was acquainted with the Kray twins since at least the very early 1960s. Shaw attended the funeral of Reggie Kray in 2000, and was quoted as having said: "We grew up in the same era. They were into protection rackets and I was into blags. I never got in their way and they never got in mine. Ronnie was more of a friend than Reggie, but I've come along today because he was one of the 'chaps'. Today is like the end of an era. The Krays were legends."
Shaw was sentenced to 18 years' imprisonment for a record breaking armed robbery in 1963, one of Englands biggest armoured truck robberies. Shaw "pummelled" his way out of two different holding cells at Her Majestys Prison at Maidstone, assaulting a number of prison guards, the first recorded such instance of this in the British prison system.
Shaw, who claimed he "simply hates the system", and that the "system could never beat him", was consistently moved onto different prisons for the safety of others and spent time at the infamous Broadmoor Hospital, then known as Broadmoor Hospital for Criminally Insane, and generally believed to be the worst prison in Britain at the time, holding the worst offenders in the country. According to Shaw's 2007 autobiography, Pretty Boy, "uncontrollable prisoners, were deliberately drugged up with the aim of turning them into permanent 'cabbages'". At Broadmoor, Shaw underwent experimental electroconvulsive therapy in an attempt to control his temper. His doctor claimed that Shaw had at first come across as a large and intimidating yet soft-spoken gentlemen, but when faced with treatment he didn't want, Shaw became "the most powerful and dangerous man I have ever tried to treat." The doctor reported the treatments as having been a complete failure, and only served to make Shaw even more aggressive and unpredictable.
Shaw routinely stabbed informers and even slashed the throat of a former best friend while incarcerated due to his strong belief in a "code of honour" amongst criminals which must not be broken.
During his time in Broadmoor, Shaw again encountered Ronnie Kray, with whom he had long been acquainted since before their time in prison. Shaw also spent time with such characters as Ronnie Biggs and Charles Bronson behind bars. By 1974, Shaw had already spent around 18 years behind bars, and had spent time in over 22 different prisons.
Shaw started bare knuckle boxing in 1978, aged 42, and gained many infamous victories, including one over Donnie "The Bull" Adams. Roy also beat former world heavy weight contender Ron Stander, who had also previously fought Joe Frazier.
His fights with arch-rival Lenny "The Guvnor" McLean were described by critics as among the bloodiest of the century and drew massive crowds. Shaw beat McLean once, but lost in two other matches to "Britain's hardest man". Shaw has since claimed in his books that they fought only in two matches and not three (the autobiographies of the two men disagree on this point), and that McLean embellished his victories and was nothing more than a bully. However, Shaw has also on occasion stated a begruding respect for McLean and also admiration for McLean's record. According to research published in an online BBC news article regarding the history of the sport in London, McLean and Shaw did indeed fight three bouts, and not two.
At one point, Shaw was sent back behind bars for a series of petty crimes but escaped prison, and for a short time before being recaptured and while on the run from the law, Shaw continued his boxing career under the alias "Roy West".
Roy Shaw's unlicensed fight record is - 11 Fights, 9 Wins, 8 K.O.s, 2 Losses, 0 Draws.
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Gonna have to be someone who can certainly act the part of a ''well 'ard bastard''. 
If it's a Brit based film, expect the likes of a rough looking Vinnie Jones or Jason Statham ( I know neither are the dog's danglies in reality before I get slated ), but they're your star candidates.
I've read Lenny McLeans biography, ( and the Krays ) and it's a small insight into a whole new world that the majority of people just don't know existed.
Guess I'd like to hear the story from a different side too.
Find the whole era very fascinating to be honest.
If it's a Brit based film, expect the likes of a rough looking Vinnie Jones or Jason Statham ( I know neither are the dog's danglies in reality before I get slated ), but they're your star candidates.
I've read Lenny McLeans biography, ( and the Krays ) and it's a small insight into a whole new world that the majority of people just don't know existed.
Guess I'd like to hear the story from a different side too.
Find the whole era very fascinating to be honest.
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